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Right, and they came out of Syria.
****, recent history is a clear indication of "ramifications."
Right, and they came out of Syria.
Recent history is a clear indication of the ramifications of inaction. No matter what you think, education and tolerance isn't going to make the terrorists go away.
Speaking of recent history, certainly bombing them ain't the answer.
RIP. Life is cheap under ISIS, and Obama has allowed ISIS to flourish. These attacks will continue until our weak President decides to get serious.
If you kill enough of them, the demand will shrink. There was once a huge demand for Nazis. After we got done with them, not so much.
Half-assed action, or no action at all won't work. I believe we've all seen that, by now.
That is not the approach that was ever taken by the US government in Iraq. In WWII we did not declare war on Nazis - we declared war on the nations that spawned them. That is a huge difference in the definition of demand. We now try to fight a war in Iraq yet not against Iraq - a huge difference indeed.
Because we're making a half assed attempt at bombing them. Have you ever tried to drive a railroad spike with a tack hammer? Doesn't work too well, does it?
And attacking an ideology does not work either. One cannot bomb an ideology. Al Qaida and the Taliban laugh.
"...Mr. Kassig founded a nongovernment organization, Special Emergency Relief and Assistance, in September 2012 to provide the aid. The Kassig family has released photographs of their son smiling with truckloads of medical supplies destined for Syria’s neediest and patching up maimed Syrians in hospital beds.
Islamic State’s threats to killed Mr. Kassig over the past few months had been met with outrage from Syrian rebels and civilians, who praised the 26-year-old American for his efforts to provide medical attention to victims of the war.
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The Indiana native was kidnapped in October 2013 as he delivered aid to eastern Deir Ezzour province.
During the past year, he converted to Islam and adopted the name Abdul Rahman, Arabic for “servant of the merciful.” He prayed and fasted during the holy month of Ramadan, according to fellow Western captives who were freed by Islamic State after their governments paid ransoms to the group, according to reports from friends.
Mr. Kassig’s dedication to helping Syrians in need was more powerful than his fear of traveling to the war torn country as kidnappings of foreigners mounted, friends and family said. He was a former U.S. Army Ranger whose deployment in Iraq had affected him tremendously and influenced him to embrace pacifism, they said.
Friends said they had tried to talk him out of making his last trip to Syria from his base in southern Turkey in October 2013. The political landscape in Syria had changed by then, and Islamic State was routing the rebels and civilians who had protected Mr. Kassig during previous trips.
“If I do die, I figure that at least you and I can seek refuge and comfort in knowing that I went out as a result of trying to alleviate suffering and helping those in need,” Mr. Kassig wrote to his family in a letter they received in June.
And this has anything to do with anything? Personal attacks are nothing but the refuge of those with no real argument.
PS it was just a typo. Great argument. [/sarcasm]
They invaded Iraq from Syria so palm your own face
And??? If you don't think that ISIS had nothing to do wit the American Iraqi invasion, then you are not very well informed.
We're not allowed to blame Bush. It's been 6 years, and if Obama can't clean up the Middle East in that amount of time, it's time to give the job back to Republicans. What this situation needs is some good ol' Texas backbone.
I read about that. My first thought was that they cut it too fine in choosing the size of the bomb, out of the same exaggerated concern for civilian casualties that's hampered the U.S. military all along in fighting these people. There is no way a very large bomb leaves anyone at a meeting just wounded. This was not an enormous U-boat pen at Peenemunde they were attacking, with a reinforced concrete roof sixteen feet thick. The fact such important figures were allowed to survive, once they'd been pinpointed, is a serious blunder. Thanks to President Pinprick for keeping everyone on such a short leash they can't do the job right.
How has our President been weak in terms of handling ISIS, and what does it mean to get serious?
It's so incredibly lazy that you just waltz in here to hurl insults at Obama but can't seem to lay out what should be done. I mean is that all you people do around here? Whine about Obama without providing any kind of substance?
Did you realize there were beheadings under Bush? Did you cry about him being weak? Selective outrage.
I know man, I can't believe these people. It seems like DP is just a place for lazy old people to shake their fist angrily and whine about Obama without providing any actual constructive input. It's a tragedy this happened but on no ****ing planet is this Obama's fault. Why don't we blame the mother ****ers that did this instead?
Or if we want to get really creative why don't we blame the guy who destabilized the region by invading it?
One problem we have is that we cannot stop the terrorists. These movements go on and on. When I was a kid they were already targeting Americans. So we can wipe up the mess in Syria and Iraq for maybe $ 1/2 trillion. But we are not willing to do the nastiness necessary to quiet the bad guys for good.
Much as I love pointing out the many flaws and weaknesses of Obama, I dont know what more Obama can do right now. He underestimated the threat of ISIS...sure. He mishandled the Iraqi troop pullout, screwed up the negotiation process which involved leaving a significant deterrent force in place, (ignoring even his own political advisers) true. But...after ISIS began rolling he engaged and is still engaging using really the only tools at his disposal. If he goes in full bore, guns blazing, people on the right will be critical of engaging. If he does nothing, people on the right will be critical of doing nothing. His Obots will defend him no matter what but many on the left will just accuse him of going to war to appease the eeeeevil right wing neocons. And as of this writing, the world doesnt appear to be lining up to help out. Realistically, the drone attacks and air strikes are his best option.
For ****'s sake, the Bush Administration helped create ISIS. :doh
My sincere condolences to the friends and family of Mr. Kassig.
Very sad news, another selfless individual, just there to help, senselessly murdered by an organization of pure evil.
It's also pretty sad people want to use this as a political football, but it's the usual, juvenile lot that are incapable of viewing the world through any other prism except their politics.
There aren't many black and white moments in a world full of contradiction and contrast, where one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter etc.
But in this case, often a rarity, we really do have an organization, that is evil and that must be wiped out from the face of the Earth.
ISIS didn't exist before G.W. Bush invaded Iraq, which was no threat to the USA. :roll:
The only country that gained anything from that war is Iran, which was glad to see its fellow Shia Muslims take power there.