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Stupidity of the American Voter?

Isn't it? Account for inflation, and we paid much more in the past, and did better doing so. The market is not magic and is manipulated by all kinds of players. What we need is balance and not one side winning. Right now, employers are winning and we are suffering for it.
If employers are winning why are so many corporations leaving the country? Why are businesses suffering? In fact any business person can tell you the answer but the theorists don't want to listen.

The current president has never been in any business in his life yet seems to know what business is all about and can even give millions of taxpayer dollars to start-up companies of which he also knows nothing. Or feels he can decide who banks lend their money to. It's people who have no knowledge of business who want more rules, regulations and, in doing so, drive out all business from their areas.
We can have some idea of what is fair.
No, you have none.
 
I am a Constitutional Conservative. I know other Constitutional Conservatives. None of us believe the Republicans will do the right thing and save the nation. You are simply wrong.

Might wanna tell your bros Fenton and conservative here--they're happily clapping and cheering for mcconnell and co. whom they proudly voted for,

and are now eagerly waiting for them to repeal Obamacare :lol:
 
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And there we have it, another ignorant view of being conservative,

There's no ignorance in knowing that conservatives are brainless peons who continually get duped by pols' words, instead of paying attention to their lobbying allegiances (i. e. insurance cos.) which actually dictate their votes.

FYI, here's a little tip for ya: I'm a Libertarian, so I staunchly oppose PPACA 100%.

Except unlike you, I'm not clueless enough to believe that republitards like boner or mcconnell actually oppose it just because they say they do, and then mindlessly vote for those idiots.
 
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Safety. The Republican arm of the Republocrats is big on the fear mongering. Don't think for yourself, government will keep you safe....by spying on you and restricting your rights and liberties and otherwise draconian, Big Brother tactics.

It's all a ruse, everything the Republocrats do is to increase size and scope and power of government.

He doesn't understand that because Republocrats told him they were for limited government,

and so therefore he believes they're actually for it.
 
There's no ignorance in knowing that conservatives are brainless peons who continually get duped by pols' words, instead of paying attention to their lobbying allegiances (i. e. insurance cos.) which actually dictate their votes.

FYI, here's a little tip for ya: I'm a Libertarian, so I staunchly oppose PPACA 100%.

Except unlike you, I'm not clueless enough to believe that republitards like boner or mcconnell actually oppose it just because they say they do, and then mindlessly vote for those idiots.

LOL, one of the funniest posts I have read. Obviously you haven't paid any attention to any of my posts but buy the leftwing rhetoric thus giving Libertarians a bad name. I am a conservative and proud of it, not a Republican. I do vote Republican however because they are closer to my point of view than the liberal Democrat Party. I refuse to waste my vote like you choosing to vote for the party that has at least a chance to win an election and make changes. You see, I took a civics class and I have logic and common sense that you don't have

You waste your vote on principle and that will always give liberals positions of power as basic math will tell you. 41% of the public will vote Democrat regardless of the candidate 36% will vote Republican regardless of the candidate, the rest will split their votes for the remaining candidates so tell me how a Libertarian will win any national election? What you do is whine and complain never really having a seat at the table. Gruber might as well named Libertarians in his statement as well.
 
Might wanna tell your bros Fenton and conservative here--they're happily clapping and cheering for mcconnell and co. whom they proudly voted for,

and are now eagerly waiting for them to repeal Obamacare :lol:
There is nothing wrong with repealing Obamacare. I do not believe the Republicans will do so. Time will tell. At least they are on the right side of this issue although I believe both will feel betrayed when the Congress fails to do anything to save the nation.

The Article V Convention of states to propose amendments is the only remaining way for the states and the people to restore the nation by fine tuning the Constitution.
 
LOL, one of the funniest posts I have read. Obviously you haven't paid any attention to any of my posts but buy the leftwing rhetoric thus giving Libertarians a bad name. I am a conservative and proud of it, not a Republican. I do vote Republican however because they are closer to my point of view than the liberal Democrat Party. I refuse to waste my vote like you choosing to vote for the party that has at least a chance to win an election and make changes. You see, I took a civics class and I have logic and common sense that you don't have

You waste your vote on principle and that will always give liberals positions of power as basic math will tell you. 41% of the public will vote Democrat regardless of the candidate 36% will vote Republican regardless of the candidate, the rest will split their votes for the remaining candidates so tell me how a Libertarian will win any national election? What you do is whine and complain never really having a seat at the table. Gruber might as well named Libertarians in his statement as well.

So. You're not a Republican, you don't like Republicans, you doubt Republicans will do the right thing, but you vote Republican. Why? Because voting for someone that actually espouses your principles would be a waste.

:screwy
 
So. You're not a Republican, you don't like Republicans, you doubt Republicans will do the right thing, but you vote Republican. Why? Because voting for someone that actually espouses your principles would be a waste.

:screwy

If only he'd embrace that truth. I'm glad he's able to sacrifice principle, but he still is too much of a true believer for me.
 
I disagree.... voting for a party that offered no vision suggests the American voter is indeed quite stupid and not getting any smarter....

Voting for hope and change shows the real stupidity of the American Democrat base. Guess nothing is ever going to change the Gruber Crowd. It seems that Obama offers of hope and change differed from the hope and change beliefs of the American electorate
 
So. You're not a Republican, you don't like Republicans, you doubt Republicans will do the right thing, but you vote Republican. Why? Because voting for someone that actually espouses your principles would be a waste.

:screwy

I explained it quite well so my suggestion to you is get a fourth grader to read it for you and tell you what I stated.
 
If only he'd embrace that truth. I'm glad he's able to sacrifice principle, but he still is too much of a true believer for me.

Sorry, but the party of Obama, Reid, and Pelosi don't represent my views at all. If you support a third party build it from the ground up, not the top down.
 
I disagree.... voting for a party that offered no vision suggests the American voter is indeed quite stupid and not getting any smarter....


Lol....

Says the guy who equated " Hope and Change " to Presidential qualifications.

What if those " visions " offered up by Obams in 2008 and 2012 were just lies ? I wasn't duped.

Were you ?
 
Sorry, but the party of Obama, Reid, and Pelosi don't represent my views at all. If you support a third party build it from the ground up, not the top down.

I'm not saying vote Democrat. I'm saying you're too much of an idealist.
 
Are you saying you aren't? Why would anyone vote Democratic today?

Not nearly as much as most posters here. I think politicians should reveal as little as possible about what they think they want to do. Most of the time I think most of you folks are overly whiny.

I vote Democrat sometimes because I like government. I vote for parties based on what I think they can realistically get done. I have little problem on voting for a candidate I don't in any way care for if they are unlikely to change much.

Betraying my principles is my first action.
 
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Lol....

Says the guy who equated " Hope and Change " to Presidential qualifications.

What if those " visions " offered up by Obams in 2008 and 2012 were just lies ? I wasn't duped.

Were you ?

They were possibly lies, unless the President truly believed that nonsense about changing Washington.

Although I think it a good thing to sucker voters to believe in something, I wouldn't oversell it like Obama did.

For that matter, I wouldn't oversell it like the Tea Party fools do on a regular basis.
 
Sorry, but the party of Obama, Reid, and Pelosi don't represent my views at all.

No, Anybnody and anything with an (R) next to his name represents your views, no matter what they are.

If Republicans has proposed and pushed through Obamacare you'd have said "Getting those bums to actually take responsibility for their own healthcare"
 
I'm not saying vote Democrat. I'm saying you're too much of an idealist.
One need only look at the direction of the outstretched hand waiting for it to be filled to know how likely someone will vote for a political party.
 
Not nearly as much as most posters here. I think politicians should reveal as little as possible about what they think they want to do. Most of the time I think most of you folks are overly whiny.

I vote Democrat sometimes because I like government. I vote for parties based on what I think they can realistically get done. I have little problem on voting for a candidate I don't in any way care for if they are unlikely to change much.

Betraying my principles is my first action.
This is the first time I completely believe you.
 
Now I am back to disbelief. I will be polite and leave it at that.

Big government conservatism is more in my area. I don't have much interest in small government conservatism.
 
Big government conservatism is more in my area. I don't have much interest in small government conservatism.
But not constitutional conservatism. Big government conservatism is an oxymoron. The phrase you are looking for is authoritarian statist. You want others to do your bidding.
 
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