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Employment Situation Report for October

apdst said:
When the government stops creating so much uncertainty in the private sector, demand will start to improve. As long as the government suppresses job growth, especially in the energy industry, the economy will remain sluggish.

Importing millions of un-educated, un-skilled and un-employed workers is only going to amplify the problem; probably driving wages downward.
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There is no confidence fairy. Only increased demand can force corporations to hire more workers, but the money to buy must come from somewhere. Even Bush knew that and that is why he encouraged consumers to use their home equity as a bank.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
We are still waiting to hear what the problem is and what the solution is.
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The problem is too much government oversight. The solution, is less government oversight.
 
iguanaman said:
There is no confidence fairy. Only increased demand can force corporations to hire more workers.
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Not only increased demand. There is also the ability to meet that demand, by private companies. That ability is being suppressed by the government.

Examples:

Keystone pipeline
Offshore drilling
Coal mining

There is a demand for these resources, but the government isn't allowing companies to meet that demand. Meeting that demand, will require companies to hire more employees.
 
WallStreetVixen said:
I already explained what the problem is: quantity over quality.

There are tons of fundamental problems with the labour market. The solution varies, however, I don't think I decided to participate in this discussion to be a problem solver.
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I notice that in nearly all debates your method is not to explain what you believe is a solution......but to simply attack positions.

A debaser, not a debater.

No convictions...other than trying to show you are the smartest guy in the room....without a solution.
 
apdst said:
Not only increased demand. There is also the ability to meet that demand, by private companies. That ability is being suppressed by the government.

Examples:

Keystone pipeline
Offshore drilling
Coal mining

There is a demand for these resources, but the government isn't allowing companies to meet that demand. Meeting that demand, will require companies to hire more employees.
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So your answer to unemployment is more coal miners? We have increased domestic energy supplies at record levels under Obama. Keystone is nothing but a temporary 3000 job disaster waiting to happen. We don't want more foreign oil.
 
apdst said:
The problem is too much government oversight. The solution, is less government oversight.
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Ah, regulations...yes, the old right wing bugaboo. "Just get out of my way" Randianism.
 
iguanaman said:
I said we should raise the minimum wage not create more low wage jobs.
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But increasing the minimum wage does exactly that. Unless wages above the minimum get an raise (provided that their productivity justifies their income), those jobs become the new minimum wage jobs.

It's funny how you don't see a correlation between wages and consumer demand. You complain of low wage jobs but can't see how that effects spending. Corporation hire because they are selling more and need more help.
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Real personal consumption expenditures averages 2.2% from recovery to now, which is just slightly off from the bubble economy of the early 2000's of 2.6%. Consumer demand is growing relatively stable, it is not the issue. The issue is that firms and establishments are not creating more of the jobs that benefit long term economic growth. That makes this an investment problem, not a consumer demand problem.

The economy doesn't have a spending problem. Not that it ever did...

Raising minimum wage will put more money in circulation and increase sales and hiring.
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If the exact opposite is true, this will result in cost-push inflation.
 
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Gimmesometruth said:
Ah, regulations...yes, the old right wing bugaboo. "Just get out of my way" Randianism.
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Well, so far, nothing the Liberals have done has worked. How do you explain the failure of the Liberal agenda to encourage economic growth?
 
Gimmesometruth said:
I notice that in nearly all debates your method is not to explain what you believe is a solution......but to simply attack positions.
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So?

A debaser, not a debater.

No convictions...other than trying to show you are the smartest guy in the room....without a solution.
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Economics makes people humble, because it allows us to focus on what we can't do, rather than what we should do. The fact that I am probably the smartest person in the room is merely inconsequential.

If you really want to hear a solution so bad, I would adopt apdst solution with government regulation. Not because I support it, but because you don't agree, and I'll even show you how the economy may be suffering from more regulation than it needs.
 
apdst said:
Well, so far, nothing the Liberals have done has worked. How do you explain the failure of the Liberal agenda to encourage economic growth?
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I did not know that "liberals" had done a whole lot.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
I did not know that "liberals" had done a whole lot.
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Obamacare

Stalling the Keystone pipeline

Drilling moratorium

Shutting down coal mines

Shutting down coal fired power plants

You weren't aware of any of that?
 
WallStreetVixen said:
So?



Economics makes people humble, because it allows us to focus on what we can't do, rather than what we should do. The fact that I am probably the smartest person in the room is merely inconsequential.

If you really want to hear a solution so bad, I would adopt apdst solution with government regulation. Not because I support it, but because you don't agree, and I'll even show you how the economy may be suffering from more regulation than it needs.
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Again, you don't have to verify the fact that you have no convictions, no solutions but that you are here simply to debase....I already got that. You are not here to express YOUR beliefs, you are only here to cut down others.
 
apdst said:
Obamacare

Stalling the Keystone pipeline

Drilling moratorium

Shutting down coal mines

Shutting down coal fired power plants

You weren't aware of any of that?
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I'm not aware that those are economic stimulus measures, the point supposedly was that liberals have forced a mass of stimulation and they have failed.
 
Blue_State said:
If you really want a nice Christmas, hope for positive construction growth this month (planning and permits). It breeds big time money into the economy. Good weather can help us out a lot this month.
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Yeah I was gonna say... Maybe construction growth compared to this month last year but expecting construction growth to increase in winter over the summer... that's a rough expectation.
 
apdst said:
The problem is too much government oversight. The solution, is less government oversight.
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Which government oversight(s) are you referring to?
 
Gimmesometruth said:
I'm not aware that those are economic stimulus measures, the point supposedly was that liberals have forced a mass of stimulation and they have failed.
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Oh, ok:

The Stimulus Package

Cash for clunkers

The Omnibus Bill

What did those do? I'm just not seeing ANY Liberal bill that is doing any good. Maybe you can point us all in the right direction?
 
apdst said:
Not only increased demand. There is also the ability to meet that demand, by private companies. That ability is being suppressed by the government.

Examples:

Keystone pipeline
Offshore drilling
Coal mining

There is a demand for these resources, but the government isn't allowing companies to meet that demand. Meeting that demand, will require companies to hire more employees.
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Keystone does nothing for our economy. Offshore drilling is at an all time high and demand for coal in our country is plummeting. Wanna try again?
 
poweRob said:
Which government oversight(s) are you referring to?
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The Drilling Moratorium

Oppressive EPA reguslations

CSA 2010

Just for starters.
 
poweRob said:
Keystone does nothing for our economy. Offshore drilling is at an all time high and demand for coal in our country is plummeting. Wanna try again?
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Jobs do nothing for our economy?

Offshore drilling at an all time high? Link?
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Again, you don't have to verify the fact that you have no convictions, no solutions but that you are here simply to debase....I already got that. You are not here to express YOUR beliefs, you are only here to cut down others.
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My beliefs are not relevant to the discussion, unless I make them relevant.
 
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