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GOP seizes Senate

The evidence says that this isn't really clear. Even when one considers educational attainment in various states, the perceived relationship breaks down when one starts looking at voting patterns. For example, from this year's exit polls.

Alright there, Texas sharpshooter. We can all agree polls can't determine logic. If anything, you should be looking more at what kind of policies were protected, and not just political party. Usually someone smart enough to google up some facts can determine who to vote for. Arguing "LOL WE'RE SMARTER THAN THOU" doesn't do much of anything.

It also depends on what degree you're going for, from what I've heard.
 
Ooof..... And I was such a huge Fan of Martin's.

Well there's always Taylor. Dont tell me their run by some Liberal whako too.

My Favorite Acoustic is a Taylor.
Taylor's are a-lot like republicans. Dull, lifeless and dead sounding.
 
To assess who failed one only need look at who's running off...
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isn't that a common scenario for a Kenyan?:mrgreen:
 
and my boots were made by Heritage in Austin.........so what?

See there you go with that right wing mentality, get everything as cheap as possible, but in the long run it comes to bite you in the ass. It comes with a price.


everything comes with a price......and people make decisions every day about where to shop, and what to buy

Walmart doesnt exactly sell a lot of USA made products though, does it?

dont blame the right wing for chasing a lot of manufacturing out of this country.....

the unions, and their unwillingness to see what was happening around the globe contributed mightily to that problem

The legislators and their trade laws contributed also.....but it was going to happen....sooner or later

the only right wing part you have right is that corporate america is in business for themselves

not their workers...not the unions.....

it is all about the profits and growth of the company.......

some on the left think that is wrong......i think it is capitalism

companies have a responsibility to their owners, and their shareholders.....that's it

Nixon is responsible for chasing manufacturing out of this country.

The robots will bring manufacturing back home.
 
The situation I pointed out would exist only if there were overwhelming evidence that one side had truly superior policy prescriptions. Public policy isn't science. It is linked to the broader environment (demographics, sociocultural situation, technology, etc.), which is in a continual state of flux. Hence, public policy can't become rigid without losing effectiveness. Moreover, since there is no near perfect policy approach, there is diversity of opinion (liberal, conservative, libertarian, etc.). In a world of change, that diversity of political thought is a strength (and your position articulates that), as effective policy makers can draw from a larger pool of ideas to confront societal challenges and opportunities. Clearly, some extremes have been properly discredited e.g., fascism, but in the mainstream, there is a lot of heterogeneity.
Which is exactly why the commies swept the votes every election in the USSR. Where did that get them?
 
I'm sorry, I didn't read the whole post. My coffee mug is empty :(. But yes sutherland.
 
Arguing "LOL WE'RE SMARTER THAN THOU" doesn't do much of anything.

I agree. That was my whole point in noting that the present body of empirical evidence does not allow for one side or the other to make such claims.
 
Which is exactly why the commies swept the votes every election in the USSR. Where did that get them?

Just so it is clear, my point concerns only the U.S. political situation where people have free choice over the leaders they elect and through those leaders influence over policy choices. The USSR did not allow for free elections comparable to what occurs in the U.S. and the West. There's a difference between reaching consensus on a matter based on evidence and compelling an outcome.

In terms of economic outcomes, communism has been discredited. Marxist economies fell vastly short of mixed market-oriented ones in terms of producing higher living standards. The empirical evidence is fairly clear even when the major variables are held as equal as possible in the real world (East Germany vs. West Germany; North Korea vs. South Korea). China's remarkable economic expansion has been the result of its shifting to a market-oriented economy, even as it has retained a communist political monopoly.
 
My predictions are: there will be no hope or change. Just impeachment proceedings, but I hope I'm wrong and that the GOP will try to work on issues.

The GOP did attempt to work on the issues. However most of the bills that were passed by republicans in the House were bottled up by Harry Reid in the Senate if he did not like them. That included bills that had bipartisan support. And as much as the democrats want to see impeachment proceedings which they feel benefited them when they were held against Clinton, the GOP is not going to waste time on impeachment proceedings. "Hussein" Obama will serve the final two years of his second term.
 
You can thank Republicans for driving down wages offshoring Jobs, trying to **** with Medicaid and Social Security. They're always doing what they can to take more out of peoples mouths and pockets that have less, the disenfranchised and downtrodden. just so they can have more. By nature right wingers are greedy, heartless, evil bastards.

Not even close. It is the high corporate taxes imposed by democrats in Congress and Obama that are driving jobs offshore. We have the highest corporate taxes in the developed world. You can also blame the out of control labor unions. And it is the democrats who are messing with SS and Medicare....especially Medicare. For the sake of financing Obamacare they have robbed over half a trillion dollars from medicare and lowered the reimbursement rate to doctors who treat Medicare patients to less then it costs to treat them. That is creating a doctor shortage in regards to Medicare patients. And moving funds from social security to the general fund for pork barrel spending was started by a democrat president...Lyndon Baines Johnson.
 
Implement their agenda, how? They don't have a supermajority so everything will be vetoed by the president and they don't have the votes to override the vetoes. So, nothing changes, just more posturing and more gridlock. The only way this will be significant is if there is a vacancy in the Supreme Court. If not, then it will be just more of the same, that is, gridlock and nothing getting done.

This only increases the dysfunctional state of affairs in Washington DC.

Oh wait, sorry, I guess you were being sarcastic, never mind.

At least to a point, they can stop "Hussein" Obama.
 
I do. Some of our best years was when Clinton was president and Republicans held the house and the Senate. The only problem is that Republicans had Newt Gingrich on their side back then. That Obama fellow is pretty hard headed. I'm not sure if Boehner and McConnell will have any luck working with him.

For conservatives this composition of government is gridlock for anything spending related. :thumbs: That's really good.

I will take gridlock over the devastation of the first six years of the Obama regime.
 
I don't disagree. The educational attainment question is a proxy but has limitations. With respect to the WW II veterans, I have no doubt that many of those who did not even graduate from high school could have succeeded in college had they pursued their studies. What that demographic cohort accomplished in all aspects of life attests to that cohort's capability. We owe a lot of the opportunities we have had in life to those veterans, both for their sacrifices during WW II and for what they accomplished afterward. Arguments that they were/are "uneducated" have no merit whatsoever.

If there was an option to "like it very much' I would have done that. For a party who claims they're not 'elitist' it would certainly appear that way sometimes.
 
A CNN exit poll showed that 44% of voters had a positive view of Democrats and 40% of Republicans. 6 in 10 disapproved of President Obama, while 8 in 10 thought Congress was failing to do it's job.
America just elected the least popular party to the least trusted area of government. I sense confusion.

I sense confusion as well. Want to know where? Look in the mirror.
 
A lot of these "jobs" that you think were automated by "machines", I hate to tell you, are actually still being done by hand by Asian children in exchange for a bowl of rice and a dollar a day.

So...the robotic equipment in many of the automobile assembly plants in the US is actually Asian children? Interesting.
 
I buy American as much as possible. My Guitars are all Gibson and Martin. They cost more however the quality is far superior to any Asian imported guitar. My Jackets and outerwear are SchottNYC. Union made in Brooklyn NY. More money, however the items will last my entire life. My boots are either Frye or Justin. You get what you pay for. I also prefer to keep as much of My consumer dollars in the country and as local as possible. I know some things are impossible to get that are American made, however at least I'm doing My part to try and keep manufacturing jobs here as fruitless as that may sound.
The government doesn't necessarily share your enthusiasm for Gibsons and American made products. Gibson Guitar Wails on Federal Raid - WSJ

Perhaps things will change in this area as well.
 
You've summed up the problem.

The GOP won't get anything done because they will refuse to pass laws in a bipartisan manner.

You probably didn't mean to actually say this, and will backtrack now and claim it's Obamas fault, but you let the real deal slip...the GOP has little interest in running the country if they can't do it their way.

You are making it up as you go along. The republican house of reps sent dozens of bills with bipartisan support to the senate and they were tabled by Harry Reid and never came up for a vote.
 
"Season"? It's been silly like that since a certain community organizer delivered a speech to a lost-cause Democratic convention where the hopeless were fooled into thinking socialism is liberalism and image trumps substance.
Trouble is, the community organizer was right.
 
I hate to clue you in on this, but the middle class was replaced by automation and the lack of its children's desire to actually study/learn in schools when it had the chance to do so...

Stop trying to blame individual failings on anyone other than the the person who failed...

Not even close. It is the high corporate taxes imposed by democrats in Congress and Obama that are driving jobs offshore. We have the highest corporate taxes in the developed world. You can also blame the out of control labor unions. And it is the democrats who are messing with SS and Medicare....especially Medicare. For the sake of financing Obamacare they have robbed over half a trillion dollars from medicare and lowered the reimbursement rate to doctors who treat Medicare patients to less then it costs to treat them. That is creating a doctor shortage in regards to Medicare patients. And moving funds from social security to the general fund for pork barrel spending was started by a democrat president...Lyndon Baines Johnson.
Obama really? we've been losing jobs to overseas labor since Reagan. He encouraged it, helped it, and set the wheels in motion. Right-wingers want everything for as cheap as possible. As close as you can get to slavery, they're happy.
 
Obama really? we've been losing jobs to overseas labor since Reagan. He encouraged it, helped it, and set the wheels in motion. Right-wingers want everything for as cheap as possible. As close as you can get to slavery, they're happy.

Never at the rate that has been seen since "Hussein" Obola has been in office.
 
I hate to clue you in on this, but the middle class was replaced by automation and the lack of its children's desire to actually study/learn in schools when it had the chance to do so...

Stop trying to blame individual failings on anyone other than the the person who failed...

The government doesn't necessarily share your enthusiasm for Gibsons and American made products. Gibson Guitar Wails on Federal Raid - WSJ

Perhaps things will change in this area as well.
I'm aware of that raid. I just purchased a new model they came out with. a J15, which is their way of making amends so to speak, Some damage control. It's a responsible and ecologically friendly guitar made of all American tone woods.
 
I'm aware of that raid. I just purchased a new model they came out with. a J15, which is their way of making amends so to speak, Some damage control. It's a responsible and ecologically friendly guitar made of all American tone woods.
Gibson's is doing damage control? Judging by the WSJ article it is the DOJ who should be doing damage control. Or perhaps the election helped in that area.
 
I hate to clue you in on this, but the middle class was replaced by automation and the lack of its children's desire to actually study/learn in schools when it had the chance to do so...

Stop trying to blame individual failings on anyone other than the the person who failed...

Gibson's is doing damage control? Judging by the WSJ article it is the DOJ who should be doing damage control. Or perhaps the election helped in that area.
Gibson agreed to pay a $300,000 fine for the ebony from Madagascar that they acquired illegally. They also acknowledged their violations. They would've went after Taylor, Collings or Martin too. they weren't targeting Gibson. This is nothing new, Brazilian Rosewood is been illegal in this country since 1969. Going to blame Obama for that too?
 
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