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U.S. Deficit Decline to 2.8% of GDP Is Unprecedented Turn

Kushinator said:
This has nothing to do with the discussion. It's not about me or my experiences nor is it about you or yours.



WTF does this have to do with the discussion?



More nonsense. A major driver of the low unemployment rate is people dropping out of the labor force. Roughly half of which is attributed to an aging population. There was a thread in which the discussion was centered around this fact. Of course, ideological hacks turn into deniers of empirical analysis when the results don't confirm their bias.



This comment doesn't even make any sense. What does real dollar terms have to do with your perception of political expenditures?



You pretend to be an expert, yet have a very limited understanding of the topic. And i'm being kind. The proof is in your post history; full of half-truths, partisan hackery, and confusion.
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You are indeed a legend in your OWN mind. Have a good day
 
Slyfox696 said:
Yes. Excuses. Partisans will be partisan.
So then you never blamed Obama for a bad or struggling economy? You never criticize for deficit spending or any of his economic policies?

Correlation vs. causation, right? Or is it only causation when it's bad and simply correlation when it's good? C'mon, show that partisanship!
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Of course I did, the stimulus failed, Obamacare is a failure and the elections prove it. Leadership is about taking responsibility not placing blame on someone else which is why Obama will never be classified as a good leader. Obama spoke well with a teleprompter, you bought the rhetoric and are now paying for it.
 
Slyfox696 said:
Wow...that's a refreshing breath of honesty from you. Thank you for admitting you were just making excuses. There's hope for you yet!
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Hopefully there will be some hope for others as well for results matter and the Obama results are a disaster that the people feel. After actually running a business I knew the stimulus would fail, I then knew that when Obama saw the failure of the stimulus because of no shovel ready jobs he moved on to ACA that he had zero leadership skills, which of course I knew from his resume and yet still the people bought the rhetoric. Liberals do that simply because they want to believe the rhetoric
 
Conservative said:
Hopefully there will be some hope for others as well
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Yes, I hope everyone who mindlessly bashes the President by coming up with stupid excuses like you've admitted to creating will admit they know they are just giving excuses. That would be great.

Thank you for your honesty in admitting your partisan excuses. Good work. I'm glad to see you agree all the things Ditto said were true.
 
Slyfox696 said:
Yes, I hope everyone who mindlessly bashes the President by coming up with stupid excuses like you've admitted to creating will admit they know they are just giving excuses. That would be great.

Thank you for your honesty in admitting your partisan excuses. Good work. I'm glad to see you agree all the things Ditto said were true.
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No such admission, the facts back me up but then again facts always get in the way of your feelings. Apparently you just cannot admit that you are wrong. Name for me an Obama economic or foreign policy success? And please don't give me this bs about preventing a depression. there is no such evidence that anything he did prevented a depression. He lost the House in 2010, the Republicans retained the House in 2012, and he lost the Congress in 2014. Seems the facts show that those so called excuses resonated.
 
Slyfox696 said:
You already admitted it. Here, I'll remind you:

Here was my post towards you:


Here was your immediate response:


So you admitted you were being partisan and creating excuses. Like I said, a refreshing breath of honesty from you.
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My comments were on the Obama record and the criticism of that record. I stand by that criticism. I am a conservative and make no excuses for being one. Obama is a disaster as his record indicates. I am going to always attack the record when it is a violation of my conservative principles. The public seems to agree with me this election cycle
 
Slyfox696 said:
You already admitted it. Here, I'll remind you:

Here was my post towards you:


Here was your immediate response:


So you admitted you were being partisan and creating excuses. Like I said, a refreshing breath of honesty from you.
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Seems you left out the rest of the post that I was responding to. Is that what you do to try to make yourself look right?

So then you never blamed Obama for a bad or struggling economy? You never criticize for deficit spending or any of his economic policies?
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Conservative said:
My comments were on the Obama record
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You and I weren't discussing the Obama record, we were discussing your excuses borne by partisanship.
Conservative said:
Seems you left out the rest of the post that I was responding to.
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Oh, I see now. Instead of claiming the title of honesty, you decide instead to show a lack of understanding of how the Internet works, as you clearly responded to something which was not addressed to you.

I think it's funny that you decided to shuck the cloak of honesty and opt instead for one which suggests a lack of basic understanding of the Internet.
Is that what you do to try to make yourself look right?
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No, it's what I do to illustrate the highly ridiculous nature of your posts. You just happen to be so good at playing along.
 
Slyfox696 said:
So then you never blamed Obama for a bad or struggling economy? You never criticize for deficit spending or any of his economic policies?

Correlation vs. causation, right? Or is it only causation when it's bad and simply correlation when it's good? C'mon, show that partisanship!
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Apparently correlation vs. causation eludes you. There are more pirates off the African coast, therefore the US economy has done better. :roll:
 
Ockham said:
Apparently correlation vs. causation eludes you. There are more pirates off the African coast, therefore the US economy has done better. :roll:
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It sounds to me more like this: If there is a Democrat in the WhiteHouse, then obviously any economic woes are caused by the policies of that Democrat. If there's a Democrat in the Whitehouse and the economy is going well, then there is no cause and effect relationship between the policies and the economy.
 
Dittohead not! said:
It sounds to me more like this: If there is a Democrat in the WhiteHouse, then obviously any economic woes are caused by the policies of that Democrat. If there's a Democrat in the Whitehouse and the economy is going well, then there is no cause and effect relationship between the policies and the economy.
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I'm sure it's some of that. What continues to amuse me is this one:

Oh look! I only spent $900K of the tax payers money instead of $1.2T. I've SAVED money therefore I'll add it in with my accomplishments and call it a deficit reduction! That means our economy is doing BETTER! Now try that at home with the wife. Look honey - I bought the Porche instead of the Lamborghini and saved us $600K! I'm sure she'll be doing a happy dance.
 
Ockham said:
I'm sure it's some of that. What continues to amuse me is this one:

Oh look! I only spent $900K of the tax payers money instead of $1.2T. I've SAVED money therefore I'll add it in with my accomplishments and call it a deficit reduction! That means our economy is doing BETTER! Now try that at home with the wife. Look honey - I bought the Porche instead of the Lamborghini and saved us $600K! I'm sure she'll be doing a happy dance.
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Actually, it's more like, "I got a 10% raise, so now we're only putting 5% of our expenses on the MasterCard instead of 15%." I don't see where government spending has declined, but revenues are up for the same reason they went down in '08, the rise and fall of the economy.
 
On Medicare, he's not being hammered for reducing the deficit, he's being hammered for lying about the effects of his cuts. Democrats would have seniors believe that there's a free lunch here, when they spent decades ripping proposed GOP Medicare savings as "pushing grandma over a cliff".
 
Ockham said:
Apparently correlation vs. causation eludes you.
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Not at all. I just understand correlation and causation are not determined by a letter behind a politician's name. I have no hope you possess the same understanding.
Dittohead not! said:
It sounds to me more like this: If there is a Democrat in the WhiteHouse, then obviously any economic woes are caused by the policies of that Democrat. If there's a Democrat in the Whitehouse and the economy is going well, then there is no cause and effect relationship between the policies and the economy.
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Yep, that's exactly what it is for them. Partisans will be partisan and it's why they make me laugh so much.
 
Conservative said:
LOL, here we go again, please explain to me how Clinton added 1.4 trillion to the debt with surpluses? Another individual who doesn't understand that there are two parts to the deficit thus you only post the part you like, not the stealing from SS and Medicare leaving a deficit in those categories to make the public debt categories look better.
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You don't and can't steal from Medicare and SS bozo. If that were the case any President could balance the budget on a whim. FICA revenues that exceed the needed outlays for a given year are mandated by law to be invested into US debt, i.e. Intragovermental holdings, thus the two opposite paths that deficits and cumulative debt took during the period. 15 years and some people still haven't figured this stuff out :lol:

The Myth of the Clinton Surplus |
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First Google result? Never a good move.
 
Conservative said:
Did he tell us that he would reduce the deficits from record levels and still have record deficits? Doubt most people considered that reality that we would have years of trillion dollar deficits and then trumpet reducing them to 400 Plus billion
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The quote about slashing deficits in half occurred before the recession, and well before the era of trillion dollar deficits which he would inherit. That's a failed attempt at political gotcha.
 
Slyfox696 said:
Not at all. I just understand correlation and causation are not determined by a letter behind a politician's name. I have no hope you possess the same understanding.
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So you say, but then you fail to demonstrate by action. You know what that's called?

Think of something good.
 
a351 said:
You don't and can't steal from Medicare and SS bozo. If that were the case any President could balance the budget on a whim. FICA revenues that exceed the needed outlays for a given year are mandated by law to be invested into US debt, i.e. Intragovermental holdings, thus the two opposite paths that deficits and cumulative debt took during the period. 15 years and some people still haven't figured this stuff out :lol:



First Google result? Never a good move.
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Bozo?? LOL, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. LBJ put SS and Medicare on budget in the mid 60's and the Congress and Presidents have been using the money for years to show a lower public deficit than we actually have. They replaced the money taken with IOU's that are now unfunded mandates. You really ought to do research before making a fool of yourself.
 
a351 said:
The quote about slashing deficits in half occurred before the recession, and well before the era of trillion dollar deficits which he would inherit. That's a failed attempt at political gotcha.
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You don't inherit deficits, you create them with the yearly budget. Did you ever take civics? Obviously you haven't gotten to that class yet
 
Conservative said:
You don't inherit deficits, you create them with the yearly budget. Did you ever take civics? Obviously you haven't gotten to that class yet
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:roll: I suppose Reagan created double digit inflation and Roosevelt 30 percent unemployment as well. Thankfully most civics courses don't teach this type of bird brained logic.
 
a351 said:
:roll: I suppose Reagan created double digit inflation and Roosevelt 30 percent unemployment as well. Thankfully most civics courses don't teach this type of bird brained logic.
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What the hell are you talking about? Just admit you are wrong and apologize. Deficits are yearly, debt is cumulative. Obama inherited a 10.6 trillion dollar debt that is now approaching 18 million. Reality sucks, doesn't it?
 
Dittohead not! said:
Actually, it's more like, "I got a 10% raise, so now we're only putting 5% of our expenses on the MasterCard instead of 15%." I don't see where government spending has declined, but revenues are up for the same reason they went down in '08, the rise and fall of the economy.
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If revenues are up, it's despite the current administrations policies not because of them. A little reminder - this is the "cash for clunkers" and "shovel ready jobs" administration.
 
a351 said:
The quote about slashing deficits in half occurred before the recession, and well before the era of trillion dollar deficits which he would inherit. That's a failed attempt at political gotcha.
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No that is what a campaign promise is; pure BS or, as they like to say, setting a goal based on a SWAG. ;)
 
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