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The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

a bit angry are you? if one respects the office, one cannot help but being upset with the clown currently holding it


Clown? That is disrespectful to the max! Yes, I am angry, but not at Obama! Not that I agreed with everything that he did, but for the most part I thought he was doing a pretty good job..
 
Clown? That is disrespectful to the max! Yes, I am angry, but not at Obama! Not that I agreed with everything that he did, but for the most part I thought he was doing a pretty good job..

Yes, but not disrespectful to the office but the man soiling it. If you truly think that you are in a very slim minority. Even that 42% who approve come in flavors of disapproval.
 
Nebraska, perhaps? There's some signs that it's turning in favor of the pipeline, once they determine a slightly alternative path. In my state it's all speed ahead.



I, personally, am against it, but will leave it up to those who will be impacted by those nasty tar sands..
 
Clown? That is disrespectful to the max! Yes, I am angry, but not at Obama! Not that I agreed with everything that he did, but for the most part I thought he was doing a pretty good job..

He just doesn't SUCK

HE SWALLOWS

the clown is a disaster

he's a liar (yeah you can keep your doctor under OBAMACARE)

He's incompetent (midde east, unemployment rate in terms of REAL JOBS)

he's arrogant and ego driven

he's an affirmative action poster child
 
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I have to say, what an astounding election. The Republicans did not do anything special, no real national issue. They just were not Democrats. I don't think there has ever been an election where the American people so soundly rejected one party. I mean there were even left leaning ballot initiatives that passed, but the voter still voted for the Republican!

Obama, totally and completely rejected. Too bad he wasn't on the ballot. He may have lost worse that Carter and Dukakis did against Reagan! I wonder how he feels? The worst, most rejected president in history. Six years of incompetence and blunders, one after the other. You really have to be pretty bad to be so rejected, but the democrats managed to do it.
 
I, personally, am against it, but will leave it up to those who will be impacted by those nasty tar sands..

Those folks are already okay with it, they're on the Canadian side. The oil will be going through the pipeline, not the tar sands.
 
I, personally, am against it, but will leave it up to those who will be impacted by those nasty tar sands..

How against it are you really? I mean, If I said I'd throw a couple billion at your favorite glass panel company, would you do it?
 
How against it are you really? I mean, If I said I'd throw a couple billion at your favorite glass panel company, would you do it?

This is the start of an old Churchill joke, right? :mrgreen:
 
This is the start of an old Churchill joke, right? :mrgreen:

"A joke is a very serious thing".

I was just thinking about compromises, and was just curious if it was one of those things like a line in the sand, or more like Obama's line in the sand.
 
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really? so embracing Obama's hatred of gun owners, and the coal industry would have helped Alison Lightweight Grimes in Kentucky?



Aww gimme a break TD, Obama does not hate guns or gun owners, and everybody except coal miners and owners hate the coal industry! Shame on you..
 
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Aww gimme a break TD, Obama does not hate guns or gun owners, and everybody except coal miners and owners hate the coal industry! Shame on you..

Nah Obama doesn't hate gun owners

he blocked the import of thousands of highly desirable militarily obsolete MI Garands claiming they would be MILITARY WEAPONS ON THE STREETS OF AMERICA even though the US GOVERNMENT sold us citizens over a MILLION of these same rifles and the number used in crimes is about the same as the number of people killed by escaped zoo polar bears

he appointed two justices to the Supreme court who are hard core gun haters

he wanted the "assault weapon ban" reinstated

so you are wrong

I don't hate the coal industry. and I can afford higher electrical rates

can you?
 
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I think that history will be very kind to this President. He set out certain goals and he accomplished most of them. Bush left office with what, a 35% approval rating. Obama is at 42% so not that bad but it will go up again. I understand that the President's party never does well in the midterms, but this was a disaster far beyond anyone's expectations and I do hold many of the candidates responsible!

Don't presume too much. The thing about history is that it is unwieldy and opinions change through the decades, both up and down. There's rarely a fixed course for Presidents in terms of perception. History isn't written in stone once a given subject has a fairly large historiography behind it. Each generation critiques the viewpoint of the previous generation, and the history is written through the lens of the present. It's a bit presumptuous to declare unilaterally that one President or the other will be seen positively. It's easy for partisans to do that, but they aren't the ones doing the research and the writing decades from now.

I have noticed a more favorable opinion of Bush develop in the last few years. I am somewhat sympathetic toward that. However, I also do not know at all whether his foreign policy or his domestic policy will become the centerpiece to the broader historiography, and I do not know how that will be viewed decades from now or if there will be waves of opinion (like Nixon has experienced thus far). Even if one or the other does become the centerpiece, that too can and maybe will change with time.
 
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I, personally, am against it, but will leave it up to those who will be impacted by those nasty tar sands..

Well, liberals are much more likely to be against it. In our area, even with our discomfort from the oil boom, the Keystone pipeline is something that is overwhelmingly supported by both Parties.
 
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That's a highly debatable point. You could be right in that they could potentially shore up more of the base who did not turn out (African Americans, Hispanic/Latino, and young people). The problem with this statement is that your core constituency for the Democratic Party is completely unreliable for midterm elections and that's been a long-term trend.



Certain areas had large turnouts, but you are right, because the majority of voters are misinformed and pay little attention to politics until the last week or so and then only to watch the TV ads. A candidate has to make them understand how their own lives could be personally affected, otherwise they have no interest.
 
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Certain areas had large turnouts, but you are right, because the majority of voters are misinformed and pay little attention to politics until the last week or so and then only to watch the TV ads. A candidate has to make them understand how their own lives could be personally affected, otherwise they have no interest.

It's easy with the Presidency. I mean if you have your guy in there for president, then you know, nothing will get done without going through them. I mean, nothing is going to happen in congress without Obama's help... unless it's some veto proof majority that get's passed, in which case, Obama was just an idiot.
 
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No more so than the 21st amendment guarantees that you will not live in a dry county, be denied service based upon your age or have the taxpayers pay your bar tab.



Excuse me, but I don't see your point.
 
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It was't just Kentucky where DEMs stayed home--it was all 50 states--as epic if not more so than 2010.
DEMs need the same civil war as GOPs went through but worse.

You should have noticed the TEA-party and Libertarians-right have now been neutered and marginilized by RNC chief Priebus .



The last person in the world that I want to listen to is Priebus! I can't stand him. How has he neutered or marginalized the tea party? I doubt it. Cruz now has more friends than before--Joni and Gardner to name just two.
 
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Go get 'em girl.
Watch 'em flock to Nixon strategies when you compare the 2008 and 2014 economies--raise the negatives and drive down voter participation.

I will say the DEMs number one mistake was not matching negative GOP ads on ACA that began last December.
Not pounding on the government shutdown over Christmas as GOPs did on ACA.

Giving in to Paul Ryan's omnibus in December so the government wouldn't shut down in 2014.
Not answering tens of millions of Koch ads started in January on Kay Hagan in North Carolina forward.

Having a DuNCe chief like Wasserman-Schultz who was even worse than now Sen. Kaine from VA was in 2010 .



I agree with most of that...The Dems did a ****ty job around the board!
 
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the progressive agenda doesn't sell as well as you think it does.



Sure it does-- especially to other progressives! Even red states voted to raise the minimum wage! That is a progressive idea. The Dems lost but medical maryjane passed in one state and recreational pot passed in another! So you fail!
 
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Sure it does-- especially to other progressives! Even red states voted to raise the minimum wage! That is a progressive idea. The Dems lost but medical maryjane passed in one state and recreational pot passed in another! So you fail!
At least you understand the real issues.
 
He just doesn't SUCK

HE SWALLOWS

the clown is a disaster

he's a liar (yeah you can keep your doctor under OBAMACARE)

He's incompetent (midde east, unemployment rate in terms of REAL JOBS)

he's arrogant and ego driven

he's an affirmative action poster child



Geez you can't possibly hate him that much! Don't you have any money in the stock market?
 
Those folks are already okay with it, they're on the Canadian side. The oil will be going through the pipeline, not the tar sands.



From what I have read, that is not regular unrefined oil, it is a heavy crude that would sink to the bottom in an oil spill and almost impossible to clean up.
 
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