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The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

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In other words, the republican Elizabeth Warren.


I'm sure it will not surprise you that I am a big fan of Elizabeth Warren and hope that Hillary runs her as VP...
 
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:shrug: it's not impossible. He's smart, however. We'll see how strategic a thinker he is, and the extent to which he can balance prepping for 2016.



He is already hinting at an "impeach Obama" agenda.
 
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He is already hinting at an "impeach Obama" agenda.

I would be deeply skeptical that he would try that. Even when asked about Obamacare he said have one single repeal-in-full bill just for the symbolism, and then move on to what everyone else in the GOP is saying, which is start to individually repeal the deeply unpopular sections (such as the mandate) and dare Obama to veto them.


There is going to be some intra-party bickering. But I think you are pinning your hopes on a level of conflict that we aren't going to see.
 
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Anywho, looks like the polls were way off:

From Nate Silver's five thirty eight blog:


Senators
silver-pollbias-table.png




and Governors
silver-liveblog-pollbias-govs1.png




dang.
 
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I'm sure it will not surprise you that I am a big fan of Elizabeth Warren and hope that Hillary runs her as VP...

VP isn't so bad, considering Hillary has been seen as abandoning the base over the past 8 years, but is Hillary's message "I'm running a more moderated platform, but don't worry--there's some bones for you" or is it "here we are and we are going to go beyond what you've seen over the past decade"? The former seems smarter to me and the latter seems pointless when your party is somewhat deflated when it was perceived as bullish on liberalism.
 
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I would be deeply skeptical that he would try that. Even when asked about Obamacare he said have one single repeal-in-full bill just for the symbolism, and then move on to what everyone else in the GOP is saying, which is start to individually repeal the deeply unpopular sections (such as the mandate) and dare Obama to veto them.


There is going to be some intra-party bickering. But I think you are pinning your hopes on a level of conflict that we aren't going to see.

No kidding. Impeachment proceedings are absolutely wasteful. I don't expect an actual push for that at all. You would eliminate most of your political legitimacy and spend all of your energy trying to topple an entire administration. Meanwhile you could have promoted a full legislative platform--even if you can't get most of it enacted in any way. That would work in your favor for 2016 and impeachment talk would not.
 
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I would be deeply skeptical that he would try that. Even when asked about Obamacare he said have one single repeal-in-full bill just for the symbolism, and then move on to what everyone else in the GOP is saying, which is start to individually repeal the deeply unpopular sections (such as the mandate) and dare Obama to veto them.


There is going to be some intra-party bickering. But I think you are pinning your hopes on a level of conflict that we aren't going to see.



Well, time will tell as I do think that there will be conflict and he will be a thorn in Mc
Connell's side.
 
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VP isn't so bad, considering Hillary has been seen as abandoning the base over the past 8 years, but is Hillary's message "I'm running a more moderated platform, but don't worry--there's some bones for you" or is it "here we are and we are going to go beyond what you've seen over the past decade"? The former seems smarter to me and the latter seems pointless when your party is somewhat deflated when it was perceived as bullish on liberalism.



I don't know, but I'm sure that tonights results will define or redefine any candidates perception of a presidential run in 2016.
 
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I understand the need to separate and not be lock-step. However, he shouldn't go too far against the grain, otherwise they can tank their chances in two years. This insurgency crap is self-defeating.

Democrat light isn't working. Cruz keeps it real.
 
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He will lead the far right tea party conservatives against the moderates in the senate.

He might, I dont know that he has been appointed "head" conservative (though conservatives dont think like that) but that should be great news for you and your party, right?
 
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Democrat light isn't working. Cruz keeps it real.

Your version of Democrat-lite is, frankly, the direction you're going to be going in order to win. Being perceived as "being principled" is great. Being principled most of the time is bonkers. Democrats have to keep getting bonked on the head to learn that lesson, and so do Republicans.
 
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:shrug: it's not impossible. He's smart, however. We'll see how strategic a thinker he is, and the extent to which he can balance prepping for 2016.

The next two years will be great for him to hone his skills, but I dont know that he will even run.
 
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I can't stay up any longer, but DeMaio is leading Peters. If that holds til morning, we've got a new black female Republican and new gay Republican elected.

Dont forget Tim Scott-the first Black republican from S. Carolina since the reconstruction. :cool:
 
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Anywho, looks like the polls were way off:

From Nate Silver's five thirty eight blog:


Senators
silver-pollbias-table.png




and Governors
silver-liveblog-pollbias-govs1.png




dang.

The bias is almost entirely favoring the dems, who saw that coming? I'd guess anyone who's seen the media.
 
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Your version of Democrat-lite is, frankly, the direction you're going to be going in order to win. Being perceived as "being principled" is great. Being principled most of the time is bonkers. Democrats have to keep getting bonked on the head to learn that lesson, and so do Republicans.

We went dem light with McCain and Romney, and voters stayed home. Dem light isn't attractive to dems, and it isn't attractive to conservatives. A watered down "compromise" that still loses just isnt attractive. Thats my take at least.
 
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He might, I dont know that he has been appointed "head" conservative (though conservatives dont think like that) but that should be great news for you and your party, right?



It sure isn't good news for the country, is it? He has "taken" the lead in the far right tea party nonsense group!
 
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We went dem light with McCain and Romney, and voters stayed home. Dem light isn't attractive to dems, and it isn't attractive to conservatives. A watered down "compromise" that still loses just isnt attractive. Thats my take at least.

But decently following Mitch and John isn't going down the same path as Romney and McCain (where my sympathies are). It's attempting to secure a Republican majority in the legislative branch for the next election so you can have a strong arm for the big possibility of getting the White House. Derailing your Party's lead for principles is pointless.
 
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