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The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

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poweRob said:
I'd like to see the filibuster blown up. I don't care if the GOP or the Dems do it. The people vote for a party to lead. Let them lead. If the people don't like the direction, that is what the next election is for. just my opinion but I'd rather see direction rather than the directionless which is what the filibuster provides.
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I am headed for bed, I will explain why I think the filibuster should be kept tomorrow.
 
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NIMBY said:
I'm glad to see you hanging in there and not running like GOPs did from their brand since 2006.
The election map could have been won blind-folded--we'll see how smart they are in 2016.

Of course Mitch will ask for straight-up-and-down votes as he did last decade--or threaten the nuclear option on legislation.
The GOP invented the nuclear option but some posters keep lying about it .
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Let the filibuster die. Then 1 of two things will happen...

1) they front a bunch of hullabaloo nutjob policies that make them look bad then get shot down with a veto, OR
2) They do some compromising with dems to get anything done that would be good enough not to get vetoed.

**** the filibuster. Let the people decide.
 
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I've discussed this in other threads but a Republican majority goes a couple of possible ways...

The Republicans refuse to seek to gain any democratic support and pass full on 100% conservative legislation, that gets filibustered by the Democrats and nothing ever really happens for two years.
-----> Results: Republicans possibly take a hit at being too ideological and the country once again gets fed up with the party in control of congress

The Republicans seek to gain some democratic support in the senate, but small numbers, while still pushing primarily core conservative ideas. They still largely get filibustered by Democrats, or vetoed the few times they get enough to hit 60, and nothing ever really happens for two years.
-----> Results: The Republicans shed the "party of no" label with it applying to Democrats more due to the "recency effect" of things. Nothing really happens, but this allows a lot of the things (like Obamacare) that were issues this year to still be issues 2 years later because the filibustering Democratic senate kept them from doing anything despite garnering some democratic support.

The Republicans completely go jelly spend and massively compromise, largely pushing Democratic desired legislation but trying to do it in a "conservative" way. Some things gain democratic support and pass, other stuff gets filibustered by not going "center" enough.
-----> Results: The republican base gets disgusted at the republicans in congress, causing low turnout from the base during the 2016 elections. Meanwhile democrats are invigorated to go out and get try to take things back because congress isn't going "Far enough" and they see it as feasible to get control back
 
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eohrnberger said:
Control of the Senate is important and all, but I think everyone's missing the possibly even more important follow up.

The governorships.

The governorships are where presidents, good presidents, good leaders come from.

Not from the house. Not from the Senate. No the cabinet. The governorships.

Senate and House offices are legislative positions with legislative experience to be had. Important yes, but not the experience and skills it takes to be a good president. A leader.

This comes from being a The Governor. A good Governor. And multiple states in dire straights have been turned around by Republican Governors in recent years, each potentially poised to run, a good run, in 2016 or 2020.
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Agreed, a strong executive has historically made the best candidates and POTUS. Lest we get another Kerry or Obama.
 
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NIMBY said:
GOPs invented the threat of the nuclear option last decade.
Please don't make me use the word lie towards you .
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You saying the one who threatens to nuke but doesn't is worst than the one who threatens and drops the nuke.
 
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NIMBY said:
I hope the DEMs shove the filibuster up McConnell's ass as much as the GOP did in the last six years in setting all-time records .
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poweRob said:
Not me. Let their policies lead. See where it goes. It should be up to the voter to decide if its the right direction.
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Doubtful Nim, they'll probably use the same tactic the Dems did with Reconciliation, I think I heard them already talking about it. I've said it before, it's better for one party to control congress and the other to control white house, makes it easier to negotiate. At least we won't have bills being sent to either houses just to die.
 
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cpwill said:
Tillis Wins!



This could go up to 10 seats, legitimately. Damn. That's..... kind of a wave.
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Even MSNBC is having to admit that.

It's only NIMBY who's like "It's a minuscule win, barely worth noting" :lol:
 
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polgara said:
Republican Rauner will be the next Governor from Michigan! Michigan! WOW!
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You mean Illinois. Thats actually a pretty big pick up.
 
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eohrnberger said:
Control of the Senate is important and all, but I think everyone's missing the possibly even more important follow up.

The governorships.

The governorships are where presidents, good presidents, good leaders come from.

Not from the house. Not from the Senate. No the cabinet. The governorships.

Senate and House offices are legislative positions with legislative experience to be had. Important yes, but not the experience and skills it takes to be a good president. A leader.

This comes from being a The Governor. A good Governor. And multiple states in dire straights have been turned around by Republican Governors in recent years, each potentially poised to run, a good run, in 2016 or 2020.
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Control of the Senate is very important for the short term...for the next two years.

The Governorships are important for the long term...for 2016.
 
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poweRob said:
I honestly hope they don't.
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Let the liberal spin begin. One of these days you are going to realize exactly what made this country great and it wasn't liberalism but rather personal responsibility, risk taking, and freedom to make mistakes and pay the consequences for those mistakes. My sincere thanks to Obama for destroying liberalism and showing that true arrogance will never succeed. TX got it right again and will always be the beacon of light for the country. What a great state I live in and a true model for the nation. Wake up liberals
 
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I am listening to walker's and Ernst's speeches and both of them are very charitable towards the candidates they beat. really classy. good, the last thing the GOP needs is gloating
 
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polgara said:
Republican Rauner will be the next Governor from Michigan! Michigan! WOW!
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Eh? Synder won. I'm confused. What's up with that?
 
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US Conservative said:
:shock: I really am shocked. But great news!
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Perhaps it's just me, but I found Illinois to be even more suprising to go Republican. With Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio in Rep hands, makes for an interesting times looking ahead.
 
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Looks like the Republicans could have as many as 34 governorships after this. Plus they'll probably take Kentucky next year. Kind of incredible considering most had them losing seats.
 
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cpwill said:
Yeah, the War on Women seems to have jumped the shark / fallen flat a bit this go-round.
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It worked in this state, to an extent, CP. The prime measure for defense of life at all stages of life was resoundingly defeated--not just on the basis of women's rights, but also how it interacted with all matters of healthcare.

Republicans mostly continue to have their hold in the state, but some of the biggest proponents of the measure were ousted.
 
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Conservative said:
Let the liberal spin begin. One of these days you are going to realize exactly what made this country great and it wasn't liberalism but rather personal responsibility, risk taking, and freedom to make mistakes and pay the consequences for those mistakes. My sincere thanks to Obama for destroying liberalism and showing that true arrogance will never succeed. TX got it right again and will always be the beacon of light for the country. What a great state I live in and a true model for the nation. Wake up liberals
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Partisan tripe for the fail. How about staying on topic when you quote me?

Love ya. Appreciate it.
 
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For the first time in my voting life I feel very happy (so far) about election results. There is just 1 pro-life Amendment in my state I'm following closely and although it's a tight race it looks like that will win too.
 
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Conservative said:
Let the liberal spin begin. One of these days you are going to realize exactly what made this country great and it wasn't liberalism but rather personal responsibility, risk taking, and freedom to make mistakes and pay the consequences for those mistakes. My sincere thanks to Obama for destroying liberalism and showing that true arrogance will never succeed. TX got it right again and will always be the beacon of light for the country. What a great state I live in and a true model for the nation. Wake up liberals
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Meanwhile, last I checked, Minimum Wage initiative has been doing pretty well and that is decidedly a liberal issue...
 
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Mycroft said:
Control of the Senate is very important for the short term...for the next two years.

The Governorships are important for the long term...for 2016.
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Yup. Exactly what I was trying to draw attention to.
 
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poweRob said:
Not me. Let their policies lead. See where it goes. It should be up to the voter to decide if its the right direction.
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An eye-for-an-eye.
The GOP started this **** on the night of the 2008 election and DEMs will end it on the night of te 2016 election .
 
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Conservative said:
Let the liberal spin begin. One of these days you are going to realize exactly what made this country great and it wasn't liberalism but rather personal responsibility, risk taking, and freedom to make mistakes and pay the consequences for those mistakes. My sincere thanks to Obama for destroying liberalism and showing that true arrogance will never succeed. TX got it right again and will always be the beacon of light for the country. What a great state I live in and a true model for the nation. Wake up liberals
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A bunch of my fellow Californians are fleeing there with the disease that is liberalism. Dont let them infect Texas!
 
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