The Mid-Terms Results Thread [W:517]

[MMC]

Update: The Demos are writing off Landrieu of Louisiana for the Run off. So add this Senate seat to the Repubs total.


It's Over: DSCC Pulls Ads For Mary Landrieu in Louisiana Run-Off.....

After Republicans easily clinched a Senate majority on Tuesday night, we knew the run-off election in Louisiana wouldn't go well for Democrat Mary Landrieu against her Republican opponent Bill Cassidy and now, it just got a lot worse. POLITICO is reporting the DSCC has pulled funding for television advertising in the state......snip~

It's Over: DSCC Pulls Ads For Mary Landrieu in Louisiana Run-Off - Katie Pavlich

 

[leoborn]

America did wake up on Tuesday, get rid of the clowns

Send out the clowns - YouTube

That was great! :lamo:

 

[eohrnberger]

Update: The Demos are writing off Landrieu of Louisiana for the Run off. So add this Senate seat to the Repubs total.


It's Over: DSCC Pulls Ads For Mary Landrieu in Louisiana Run-Off.....

After Republicans easily clinched a Senate majority on Tuesday night, we knew the run-off election in Louisiana wouldn't go well for Democrat Mary Landrieu against her Republican opponent Bill Cassidy and now, it just got a lot worse. POLITICO is reporting the DSCC has pulled funding for television advertising in the state......snip~

It's Over: DSCC Pulls Ads For Mary Landrieu in Louisiana Run-Off - Katie Pavlich

Isn't that like throwing in the towel? Defaulting and letting the Republican win this runoff election?

 

[AlbqOwl]

Isn't that like throwing in the towel? Defaulting and letting the Republican win this runoff election?

Or it could just be a classic case of not engaging in an exercise in futility or not throwing good money after bad. I imagine the decision was made after some serious internal polling that indicated no amount of money was going to help. . . OR . . . she is a shoe in and they don't need to finance it any further. Who knows?

 

[MMC]

Isn't that like throwing in the towel? Defaulting and letting the Republican win this runoff election?

Well, I think you could say that Eorhn. :lol:

Also, they will be needing money for 2016. More than what they could raise this time around.

 

[Linc]

Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

I don't know if your 2010 analogy is correct. One should give it time to settle in. In 2010 the vote was against Pelosi and Reid more than the president. Against the ACA and the time spent on health care that was taken away from the economy and jobs. At least that was how I seen it.

This election was against the president and his policies. On most issues he is above 50% in the negative. On the Economy 55% disapprove, Terrorism 55%,Ebola 51% disapprove, Health Care 57% disapprove, Foreign Policy 57%, ISIS 58%, Immigration 61% and so it goes.

Back in 2010 the president was on the plus side of those that applied back then except health care.

As you well know, mid-term % for voting for Dems is between 3 to 5 % lower than in Presidential years.
I don't see any numbers that the GOP had any more votes this time than in 2010 but you may have.

Dem constituencies simply didn't vote.
However, I'm past this election cycle am now praying for the success of Sen. McConnell as I know you are.

On the most very sad note, our young man who died had wonderful older sisters who I taught.
Another one will live but is paralyzed.
A third is in deep trouble with fluid on the brain and is in an induced coma.

Last night in IL, we had very cold November rain--black ice sort of--rain on dry, gas-slicked roads that caused the accident.
There's no comprehending a reason for this sort of thing happening time after time in my life with our kids for the last 38 years.
We must now just move slowly forward one day at a time, rebuilding their confidence and preparing the kids for life after high school .

 

[Perotista]

Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

As you well know, mid-term % for voting for Dems is between 3 to 5 % lower than in Presidential years.
I don't see any numbers that the GOP had any more votes this time than in 2010 but you may have.

Dem constituencies simply didn't vote.
However, I'm past this election cycle am now praying for the success of Sen. McConnell as I know you are.

On the most very sad note, our young man who died had wonderful older sisters who I taught.
Another one will live but is paralyzed.
A third is in deep trouble with fluid on the brain and is in an induced coma.

Last night in IL, we had very cold November rain--black ice sort of--rain on dry, gas-slicked roads that caused the accident.
There's no comprehending a reason for this sort of thing happening time after time in my life with our kids for the last 38 years.
We must now just move slowly forward one day at a time, rebuilding their confidence and preparing the kids for life after high school .

I haven't seen any numbers outside of what CNN posted. I suppose it will be awhile before the total votes are complied. Apparently you have a lot more faith in McConnell than I do. McConnell probably will have 6 months to accomplish what can be accomplished and then the Presidential election season will be in full bloom. But that is life.

Accidents, Death, who can explain it? I probably should have been dead several times over and am still here. I never dreamed that. My sister lost her son to a car accident who had just turned 18. Good kid. Maybe there is something to the old saying, the good die young. My condolences.

 

[Jack Hays]

Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

Was that any different than with Bush's ending of two terms? Bush didn't even get invited to the Republican convention at the end of his two terms.

You people act as this is something new but it happens almost every time.

Mark Twain said it best In due time we will all be sick of seeing McConnell's face.

At no time did I act as if this is something new. You are correct about GWB. Lose the defensiveness.

 

[Jack Hays]

Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

I'd have to agree.

McConnell is a back room, out of the limelight, tactical statesman able to broker deals that matter. In times like these, especially like these, these are skills and abilities worth their weight in gold, perhaps even so much so as to make up for Obama's lack of skills and abilities in these areas.

We'll see. The future is not yet written.

Think Richelieu.

 

[Jack Hays]

Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

Yes, they did. Perhaps if they had defended Obama's policies and the progressive agenda and been true to their beliefs and voting records, they would have fared better than they did with the phoney crap. Just saying!!

All those professional politicians, and not a single one thought that was a good idea.

 

[Zyphlin]

Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

Strangely enough, the words of one of our most die hard liberals that was here in 2006...and is still here now...does a wonderful job of responding to this election if you change a few words

Sour grapes?

Look....America stood up and said "Enough is Enough". The American people soundly rejected your transformative progressive ideas. I agree with the poster who said that this is not a rejection of the Democratic party per se. What it is a rejection of Obama and transformative progressive philosophy.

As Obama and Democrats moved away from the center, they alienated moderate voters.

 

[Zyphlin]

Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

Another excellent post from 2006 from Kori in a thread that asked "Do you believe the democrats have a mandate". It's a reasonable way to view this election as well. Party words changed.

Not at all. Can you name a single Republican policy, or a single plank of the republican platform, that people have suddenly embraced? Have the people changed?

No.

This election delivered a sound rebuke to the inept and immoral behavior of Obama and Democrats -- but nothing more. If Obama and the Democrats cleans up, or the Republicans prove little better, we will see a similar performance in 2010 or 2012.

Also, I know Moot was posting in this thread. Not sure how she was reacting, but if she wasn't reacting too impressed by Republicans you can't blame here...she's consistent. This was from 2006 in the same thread

I voted NO. The Democrats did not recieve a mandate. Many of the congressional elections were won by a such narrow margines that it shows there is still a great divided across the land. Mainly, I think people used this election to vote against Bush, the Iraq War, corruption and the recent scandles that have been plaguing the GOP, more than they voted for Democrats per se. Also, many of the rightwing religous base didn't even show up at the polls.

 

[Objective Voice]

Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

I agree 100%.

And what is worse, IMO, is when these same people - who know they are voting for rotten politicians - justify it with that old 'it is your duty to vote' nonsense...like voting for someone horrible is better then not voting at all.

To me, you are doing a disservice to your country if you knowingly vote for a person who you believe will make a poor politician JUST BECAUSE they are running for the political party you like.

This is why I said to friends and co-workers that the GOP made political gains not so much because the Democrats they were running against were bad (although it could be argued they didn't have had much of a conscience or a backbone), there just weren't many Democrat opponents on some state ballots. So, when you're the only candidate on the ticket it makes it tough to say "this guy is better or worse than that guy" because there's no other guy to compare him to. :shrug:

Next political cycle may be different; we may even see a reversal since there will be more Democrats up for re-election in 2016 then Republicans. But at this stage Congress is the Republican Party's chamber to lose.

 

[Grant]

Update: The Demos are writing off Landrieu of Louisiana for the Run off. So add this Senate seat to the Repubs total.


It's Over: DSCC Pulls Ads For Mary Landrieu in Louisiana Run-Off.....

After Republicans easily clinched a Senate majority on Tuesday night, we knew the run-off election in Louisiana wouldn't go well for Democrat Mary Landrieu against her Republican opponent Bill Cassidy and now, it just got a lot worse. POLITICO is reporting the DSCC has pulled funding for television advertising in the state......snip~

It's Over: DSCC Pulls Ads For Mary Landrieu in Louisiana Run-Off - Katie Pavlich

Doesn't that mean if the Republicans can convince just a few Democrats to come along they can, with 60 votes, veto any Executive Orders Obama attempts? I doubt many Democrats would side with Obama, given what we've seen so far.

 

[Grant]

Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

On the most very sad note, our young man who died had wonderful older sisters who I taught.
Another one will live but is paralyzed.
A third is in deep trouble with fluid on the brain and is in an induced coma.

Last night in IL, we had very cold November rain--black ice sort of--rain on dry, gas-slicked roads that caused the accident.
There's no comprehending a reason for this sort of thing happening time after time in my life with our kids for the last 38 years.
We must now just move slowly forward one day at a time, rebuilding their confidence and preparing the kids for life after high school .

I am so sorry to hear that Nimby, and my sincere condolences. We may have deeply held opinions here and harangue each other regularly but this is a trivial hobby and time filler for most. It is not the real world you and your family have recently suffered through. Heartfelt best wishes to all of you. Grant

 

[MMC]

Doesn't that mean if the Republicans can convince just a few Democrats to come along they can, with 60 votes, veto any Executive Orders Obama attempts? I doubt many Democrats would side with Obama, given what we've seen so far.

Heya Grant. :2wave: We can Override BO's Veto with 2/3rds Majority of the States, and the House and Senate. We have 33 states and 2 pending. We also have 66 state legislatures out of 99.

 

[Jack Hays]

Heya Grant. :2wave: We can Override BO's Veto with 2/3rds Majority of the States, and the House and Senate. We have 33 states and 2 pending. We also have 66 state legislatures out of 99.

No need for the states to override a veto. Two-thirds in House & Senate does the trick.

 

[MMC]

Hi MMC. Thanks for that info because I wasn't sure. But even 2/3, given the distance Democrats removed themselves from Obama during the campaign, and that he is also a 'lame duck', may not be out of reach.

Yeah, and with what the WSJ put out today over Iran. Looks like he will be starting off with some trouble.

(4) If the GOP takes Louisiana as expected, and if Maine independent Angus King decides to caucus with Republicans -- which he's reportedly open to doing -- the party will control 55 seats in January. Republicans were at a 60-40 disadvantage in the upper chamber as recently as early 2010. That's a breathtaking turnaround, mirroring Democrats' Senate gains from 2004 to 2008. Question: Might Sen. Joe Manchin be thinking about pulling a Jim Jeffords and switching parties, given what just happened in his state? That would be 56.....snip~


http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-el...mi-gop-gains-across-board-historic-sweep.html

 

[Grant]

Heya Grant. :2wave: We can Override BO's Veto with 2/3rds Majority of the States, and the House and Senate. We have 33 states and 2 pending. We also have 66 state legislatures out of 99.

Thanks for that MMC! I was obviously unclear on the system. I do feel that most Democrats will continue to distance themselves from Obama, given his 'lame duck' status. It's going to be tough to avoid investigating the accumulated scandals as well.

 

[Dittohead not!]

You mean 06 right? In 08 he was leaving... or were you talking about the same guy?

Yes, '06, but they had the same advantage in '08.

 

[Linc]

Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

I haven't seen any numbers outside of what CNN posted. I suppose it will be awhile before the total votes are complied. Apparently you have a lot more faith in McConnell than I do. McConnell probably will have 6 months to accomplish what can be accomplished and then the Presidential election season will be in full bloom. But that is life.

The Linc you liked from Politico would defend the ability of the Majority Leader to be successful in moving our Nation off of obstruction.
The theatrics of Boehner being bad cop today and McConnell being good cop yesterday are irrelevant.

I find it ironic that Congress/Senate reconvenes the day after Veteran's day.
I look for Mitch to have a fast-moving agenda--forcing Reid to take half a loaf on areas of compromise during the lame-duck.
Certainly the omnibus--sounds like a new Iraqi forces agreement--one day at a time .

 

[Linc]

Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

I am so sorry to hear that Nimby, and my sincere condolences. We may have deeply held opinions here and harangue each other regularly but this is a trivial hobby and time filler for most. It is not the real world you and your family have recently suffered through. Heartfelt best wishes to all of you. Grant

After reacting angrily election night, mostly due to my own Democrats not voting, it's time to get about the business of the Nation.
My nature is to be too gullible and believe in the goodness of our Leaders, in this case McConnell.

I believe him to be the right man at the right time to be a great Majority Leader.
He will marginalize the House, which will rubber-stamp the agreements he gets with his buddy Biden along with Obama.

Whoa to any DC Republican pol who opposes the Turtle .

 

[Linc]

Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

I am so sorry to hear that Nimby, and my sincere condolences. We may have deeply held opinions here and harangue each other regularly but this is a trivial hobby and time filler for most. It is not the real world you and your family have recently suffered through. Heartfelt best wishes to all of you. Grant

Since I don't have my own children, losing our high school kids in all the ways we lose them may affect me more.
Being a type A personality doesn't help--but the kids still give my life purpose with tutoring and coaching even being retired.

Trust me when I tell you that I am affected in real life in a positive way by what happens on DP when it is good.
As you can tell, I am also affected in internet life in a positive way wen I am hurting from real life.

I so want the gridlock and hate in this Nation to go away.
Chalk that up to being an Air Force brat born in England.

The segment by Megyn Kelly questioning Sen. Sessions just now was pretty good on immigration.
She grilled him more than I would have expected .

 

[Perotista]

Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

The Linc you liked from Politico would defend the ability of the Majority Leader to be successful in moving our Nation off of obstruction.
The theatrics of Boehner being bad cop today and McConnell being good cop yesterday are irrelevant.

I find it ironic that Congress/Senate reconvenes the day after Veteran's day.
I look for Mitch to have a fast-moving agenda--forcing Reid to take half a loaf on areas of compromise during the lame-duck.
Certainly the omnibus--sounds like a new Iraqi forces agreement--one day at a time .

Taking it one day at a time is the only way to go. I have a grand daughter who was born on Veteran's Day. The only birthday of the grand kids I remember.

 

[TurtleDude]

Re: The Mid-Terms Results Thread

My quick takeaway on elections is that 2014 was 2010 on steroids--minorities, young people and women didn't vote.
The very people who demand the Dems do their bidding but refuse to turn out.

Why should Obama give away the rest of the party for people who won't vote?
Again, I believe this is legacy time for Majority Leader McConnell.

I finish with tears in my eyes as we just lost a student last night driving and two more are in critical condition according to my wife who just called me.

My most sincere condolences NIMBY