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Sen. Landrieu's remarks on race anger Republicans[W:466]

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Actually, Northern GOP support was weaker than the Northern Dems, Southern GOP opposition was greater than Southern Dem opposition.


Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)
The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)

Jus' say'in.

So, who did you steal that info from?
 
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If you think that Demo's are going to win Tuesday, you are simply delusional....

Read this from a Black author....

"Blacks have always been conservative or, more accurately, traditionalists. This DNA was embedded in us from the depths of our African ancestry."

snip

When you talk about specific issues that are important to conservatives—abortion, welfare, homosexual entitlements, etc.—Blacks are overwhelmingly supportive. But as soon as you put the label conservative with it, the dynamic changes.

Meanings are in people, not in words. Currently, America and specifically the Black community have allowed liberalism and political correctness to run amuck.

We must breathe new life into the dormancy of our culture. We must water the DNA that is begging to raise its head once more. For the first time in the history of Africa, homosexuality is sweeping across the continent, babies are being born outside of marriage, and they are sending their elderly parents to nursing homes.

I am one who makes a living based on my knowledge and understanding of the use of words and language. Before White and Black conservatives address the Black community on any issues, they first must define their terms of engagement. Bush 43 was called conservative, but spent money like a drunken sailor. Republicans leaders of Congress call themselves fiscally conservative, but constantly support deficit spending.

So, one needs to define what the word conservative means and why it is relevant to a person’s everyday life. Why Black conservatives, especially those with a heart, have not done this is truly a mystery.

- See more at: The Heart of the Black Conservative (Yes, we have one) | BlackPressUSA

You do realize that this is one person's opinion, correct?

And to say that black people being traditionalists is due to our African ancestry is extremely idiotic, there have been black people all over the political spectrum.
 
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You said the South was/is struggling with racism to a greater extent than the North. I proved that that isn't necessarily true.

No, you've proven that racism also existed in the North, a fact that no one disputed.

You've shifted over to, "um...um...um...Democrats then aren't the same as Democrats now!"

They aren't, and that statement was in response another poster dredging up the "party of the klan" narrative. Reading. It's fundermental.
 
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Actually, Northern GOP support was weaker than the Northern Dems, Southern GOP opposition was greater than Southern Dem opposition.


Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)
The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)

Jus' say'in.
What part don't you get the bill could not get passed with both the House and Senate under Democrat majority? It was the leadership in the minority party, the Republicans that would not waiver on key issues that must be included in the civil rights bill to make it worthy and not some paper tiger that some Democrats proposed to get Southern Democrats on board . History records Johnson going to the Senate and raising hell and telling his party to stop the filibustering and pass the legislation. There was a hell of a battle in Congress to get the bill passed. And it was a Republican that pretty much authored the final bill that was signed into law. It's getting old to see such revisionism of something that just happened 50 years ago. I blame our public school system for that one.
 
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Some people in the GOP can't deal with the truth. But in the future the truth will deal with the GOP.

'What goes around, comes around." No one can stop time, and/or change.

That seems to be what's happening this election cycle.
 
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What part don't you get the bill could not get passed with both the House and Senate under Democrat majority? It was the leadership in the minority party, the Republicans that would not waiver on key issues that must be included in the civil rights bill to make it worthy and not some paper tiger that some Democrats proposed to get Southern Democrats on board . History records Johnson going to the Senate and raising hell and telling his party to stop the filibustering and pass the legislation. There was a hell of a battle in Congress to get the bill passed. And it was a Republican that pretty much authored the final bill that was signed into law. It's getting old to see such revisionism of something that just happened 50 years ago. I blame our public school system for that one.
What part of not being able to understand that your whitewashed version of history is not the complete truth and that the closer truth is that members of the GOP were more opposed to the 1964 CRA than were Dems? Is your viewpoint so entrenched that it becomes a B&W issue were Dems are bad and GOP are good and that no allowance is made to understand that within the GOP there were racists....and that NOW, the PRESENT, the Southern GOP ideology is nothing more than a sanitized version of Jim Crow Southerners?

Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger." By 1968 you can't say "nigger" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger."[41]

Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Ironic that she is taking the position in Louisiana that she OPPOSES Obama.
 
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What part of not being able to understand that your whitewashed version of history is not the complete truth and that the closer truth is that members of the GOP were more opposed to the 1964 CRA than were Dems? Is your viewpoint so entrenched that it becomes a B&W issue were Dems are bad and GOP are good and that no allowance is made to understand that within the GOP there were racists....and that NOW, the PRESENT, the Southern GOP ideology is nothing more than a sanitized version of Jim Crow Southerners?

Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger." By 1968 you can't say "nigger" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger."[41]

Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You are going to believe what you want. I'm sure there are still some adults if you look hard enough still believe in the tooth fairy too. I know what happened and I am damn tired of people like you painting Republicans as racists when the racism that was harming blacks in the South in the 50's /60's was due to Democrats in power. And just like Johnson predicted, after the civil rights bill was passed, he predicted the South would become Republican for many years. And it did. Because many of those who hindered the passing of the Civil Rights Bill were later voted out of office. And fifty years later it is still a sea of red when it comes to government officials. There is a reason why Martin Luther King was a life long Republican.
 
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I am damn tired of people like you painting Republicans as racists
The point was, they did have racists among them in the 1960's, and as the southern strategy continued on, the GOP went whole hog to capture the Southern White conservative vote....and they have.

There is a reason why Martin Luther King was a life long Republican.
http://www.politifact.com/tennessee...r-republican-claims-martin-luther-king-jr-wa/
 
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No, you've proven that racism also existed in the North, a fact that no one disputed.



They aren't, and that statement was in response another poster dredging up the "party of the klan" narrative. Reading. It's fundermental.

I never said anything the Democrats being the party of the klan. Why would you address that toward me? Because I'm wearing your ass out and you need a break?
 
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Let wiki know, go ahead, or report me.

It's time for you and and your compatriots to admit defeat. Your homegirl played the race card and now you people had to fold.
 
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There is a reason why Martin Luther King was a life long Republican.

MLK was NOT a "lifelong Republican." It simply is not true.
 
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The point was, they did have racists among them in the 1960's, and as the southern strategy continued on, the GOP went whole hog to capture the Southern White conservative vote....and they have.


Another Republican claims that Martin Luther King Jr. was part of the GOP | PolitiFact Tennessee

The point is the SOUTHERN STRATEGY HAS BEEN DEBUNKED. Yes their were racists. And the majority of them in positions of power were Democrats in the South. There has been much discussions whether MLK was a Republican or Democrat. Or maybe a Republican that sometimes voted Democrat. He found fault with both parties as he based his thinking on a minister's perspective. Depending on who you read, you can walk away thinking he had Socialist leanings or he better aligned himself with faith, fairness, family, and freedom which tend to be Social Conservatives that make up a part of the Republican party. There have been accounts of his blood relation claiming he and his father were Republicans. Growing up in the South at that time makes sense that he would be being born and raised in Atlanta Georgia and at the age of 25 graduated seminary school and became a pastor in Montgomery Alabama during some pretty horrendous times for a black man in the South under Democratic rule. Alabama was very Democratic during the civil war. It had only two Republican governors following Reconstruction, but after the Democratic Party re-established control, 112 years passed before voters chose another Republican.
 
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It's time for you and and your compatriots to admit defeat. Your homegirl played the race card and now you people had to fold.
OMG...did you just come back with a hypocritical comment about playing race cards?
 
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The point is the SOUTHERN STRATEGY HAS BEEN DEBUNKED.
WHERE?


Yes their were racists. And the majority of them in positions of power were Democrats in the South.
The operative word being "were"...but NOW are GOP...ergo, THE SOUTHERN STRATEGY WAS REAL AND WORKED.
There has been much discussion whether MLK was a Republican or Democrat.
Read and learn:

Another Republican claims that Martin Luther King Jr. was part of the GOP | PolitiFact Tennessee
 
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WHERE?


The operative word being "were"...but NOW are GOP...ergo, THE SOUTHERN STRATEGY WAS REAL AND WORKED.Read and learn:

Another Republican claims that Martin Luther King Jr. was part of the GOP | PolitiFact Tennessee

Wow highlighted my grammar error, what a sweetheart! Here let me give you the link to the National Black Republicans Association, they claim the Southern Strategy has been debunked. And they claim MLK was a Republican too. Take it up with them.

National Black Republican Association | National Black Republican Association

And if the operative is "were", then why in the Hell is Mary Landrieu claiming we are still living in the 60's? Thanks for showing what a bunch of crap her comments were and how there are those using the Black vote like pawns to re-elect them. Their communities all across this land reek of poverty and high unemployment rates, and many end up in prison because of it and their Democrat representation let's them continue to live that way, not providing job opportunities to pull themselves out of the gutter, but instead show up during an election promising them a bunch of crap and never deliver. They hand out some little token and think they should repay them with their vote. Then turn around and have the audacity to claim it is their very constituients who are to blame by calling them racist and sexist. It doesn't get any lower than that.
 
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Wow highlighted my grammar error, what a sweetheart! Here let me give you the link to the National Black Republicans Association, they claim the Southern Strategy has been debunked. And they claim MLK was a Republican too. Take it up with them.

National Black Republican Association | National Black Republican Association
LOL, the NBRA !?!? Good grief....and you could not even directly link to any rebuttal they supposedly made....because they didn't...they linked to a Pat Buchanan article that even little old me was able to take down.

What a fail.

And if the operative is "were", then why in the Hell is Mary Landrieu claiming we are still living in the 60's?
FFS....when I said the Southern Dems WERE (by and large) racists in the 60's BUT that NOW it is the GOP that has captured the (racist) Southern White vote, Landrieu is simply confirming that OBVIOUS point when she commented on the lack of support for the President. It is so weird how the GOP is aghast when the obvious is stated.



Thanks for showing what a bunch of crap her comments were and how there are those using the Black vote like pawns to re-elect them. Their communities all across this land reek of poverty and high unemployment rates, and many end up in prison because of it and their Democrat representation let's them continue to live that way, not providing job opportunities to pull themselves out of the gutter, but instead show up during an election promising them a bunch of crap and never deliver. They hand out some little token and think they should repay them with their vote. Then turn around and have the audacity to claim it is their very constituients who are to blame by calling them racist and sexist. It doesn't get any lower than that.
Um, if you are talking about the GOP dominated South, and the poverty contained within, I'm afraid that blaming the Dems is really off the...map.

PS...as I said to the Fenton..
Yeah, ya know...they have all been brainwashed I tells yah.....thats why they vote for Dems 90% or better since the 60's!

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LOL, the NBRA !?!? Good grief....and you could not even directly link to any rebuttal they supposedly made....because they didn't...they linked to a Pat Buchanan article that even little old me was able to take down.

What a fail.

FFS....when I said the Southern Dems WERE (by and large) racists in the 60's BUT that NOW it is the GOP that has captured the (racist) Southern White vote, Landrieu is simply confirming that OBVIOUS point when she commented on the lack of support for the President. It is so weird how the GOP is aghast when the obvious is stated.



Um, if you are talking about the GOP dominated South, and the poverty contained within, I'm afraid that blaming the Dems is really off the...map.

PS...as I said to the Fenton..
Well I guess we can add black republicans and their organization to your list of dumb asses because of what they promote on their website. The poverty of Blacks isn't just limited to the South. Who has run Detroit into the ground under Democrat leadership? Why is Chicago, New York and any other Democratic stronghold strugging with Black gangs mainly due to the lack of jobs? It's the system that has made Blacks poor. Forget color, it's making a lot of folks poor. By offering government assistance being designed out of Washington that they make every state abide by the regulations, you take away the incentive to be all they can. They don't have to work toward a goal because government is going to provide just enough to get by. It's disgusting. The anti-capitalistic attitude on the left thwarts economic growth to produce the needed jobs of those who truly want to work. The over-regulating of EVERYTHING thwarts the growth also. Democratic states are not known for being business friendly and have much higher unemployment rates.
 
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It's the system that has made Blacks poor. Forget color, it's making a lot of folks poor. By offering government assistance being designed out of Washington that they make every state abide by the regulations, you take away the incentive to be all they can. They don't have to work toward a goal because government is going to provide just enough to get by. It's disgusting. The anti-capitalistic attitude on the left thwarts economic growth to produce the needed jobs of those who truly want to work. The over-regulating of EVERYTHING thwarts the growth also. Democratic states are not known for being business friendly and have much higher unemployment rates.

I think governmental assistance enslaves even if those who grow dependent on this don't see it. And it's not limited to blacks either. At all.
 
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Well I guess we can add black republicans and their organization to your list of dumb asses because of what they promote on their website.
There is straw, there is soiled straw, and there is rotted fungus infected straw. This comment by you is of the last variety.
The poverty of Blacks isn't just limited to the South.
More straw, I did not say it was, the topic has been the South, if you were following along.
Who has run Detroit into the ground under Democrat leadership? Why is Chicago, New York and any other Democratic stronghold strugging with Black gangs mainly due to the lack of jobs?
Wait...what administration is responsible for the largest decline in employment since 1929? The answer is the Bush administration.
It's the system that has made Blacks poor. Forget color, it's making a lot of folks poor. By offering government assistance being designed out of Washington that they make every state abide by the regulations, you take away the incentive to be all they can. They don't have to work toward a goal because government is going to provide just enough to get by. It's disgusting.
I asked apst in another thread for him to back up his claim that welfare has caused recipients to lose the ability to work. He declined. So you go right ahead and waste your time trying to support another failed Right Wing meme.

But this is all a distraction from the fact that you can't show that the Southern Strategy was debunked....at all, nor have you shown that what Landrieu said was incorrect.

The fact is, she was spot on.
 
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But back to the thread's topic, which is Mary Landrieu's bite-the-hand-that-elected-you remarks, we'll see Tuesday if this strategy gins up her voters.
 
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I think governmental assistance enslaves even if those who grow dependent on this don't see it. And it's not limited to blacks either. At all.

I remember listening to Roy Innis speak at my college and he made a reference to a girl who puts out without much prompting and then wonders why the guys she sleeps with don't do anything for her.

he noted blacks are that way with the democrats. They give the democrats all they want and the Dems don't have to give them anything in return.
 
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