And I'm fine with it doing that, if it can be done in a way that doesn't disenfranchise people.
But does the govt have a duty to ensure that the Constitution is dutifully enforced or does it have a duty to ensure people aren't disenfranchised?
That the issues important to them are not the issues important to Blacks. That would include health care reform, affirmative action, more government programs for the poor and disadvantaged, womens rights, labor and working conditions, and support for public education. In addition, people know when they are not liked or wanted and that comes across in big fat capital letters. The swing of the Republicans to the right has pretty much killed the days when noted people like Jackie Robinson, Wilt Chamberlain, James Brown and Sammy Davis Jr. endorsed GOP presidential candidates. You may as well be talking about the days of Lincoln and Reconstruction.
Turn on the GOP convention on TV and its a sea of white faces looking more like a bowl of rice with a small sprinkling of pepper now and then. Then turn on the Democratic convention and see the difference. The make-up of the members of the party sends a big message.
Both.
Ok. Where in the constitution does it spell out the duty for the executive branch to guard against disenfranchisement?
I think the constitution's mere existence carries with it the government's responsibility to ensure that the rights contained within are not infringed.
Do you NOT think the government has a responsibility to make sure that peoples' rights aren't infringed?
Sure, but every vote cast illegally disenfranchises one legal voter but Democrats oppose policing the voter rolls and have, at every turn, promote programs that end up giving voter registration card to people who shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Back when I was a social worker we were under orders to get voter registration cards from everyone who came into our office regardless of whether they said they were already registered, or even if we knew they were not US citizens.
Democrats are corrupt, plain and simple. They really don't care if the voting rolls of clean so long as they know the illegal votes are mostly for Dems.
I think the constitution's mere existence carries with it the government's responsibility to ensure that the rights contained within are not infringed.
Do you NOT think the government has a responsibility to make sure that peoples' rights aren't infringed?
Yes I do. However, how is a requirement for ID infringing the right to vote if it is not an infringement on the right to own a firearm?
Yes I do. However, how is a requirement for ID infringing the right to vote if it is not an infringement on the right to own a firearm?
You're going to have to find where I made that argument re: firearms. Or, for that matter, re: voting.
I'm not accusing you of making an argument. I'm asking a question. How is it disenfranchisement, or an infringement in the case of one right....but not in another?
Use a library card, a passport, a college I.d, a workplace i.d.
I can list other examples of I.d
Why are you asking me? I never said it was or wasn't.
Uhm, ok, sure.
Point?
Yeah, yeah, we get it, Democrats bad, Republicans good, yadda yadda yadda.
Which is why I'm asking you.
It's the democrats who seem afraid of voter ID laws.
Some voter I.d bills require a birth cirtificate. That seems a tad exxcessive.
Use a library card, a passport, a college I.d, a workplace i.d.
I can list other examples of I.d
Yeah, yeah, we get it, Democrats bad, Republicans good, yadda yadda yadda.
Well, for starters, requiring an ID isn't disenfranchisement in and of itself. Requiring an ID and then making said ID onerous and/or cost prohibitive is disenfranchisement, as I've previously stated.
As far as the firearm argument, which I could literally not care less about, I suppose that voting and yay guns should be held to similar ID standards -- a free national ID card could solve both problems.
Good, I agree. So, you are in support of voter ID then, assuming the ID is free?
Actually, there's a growing number of young black Americans, me included that have realized that Democratic policies hurt black families. For that reason, among others, we are gradually turning away from the DNC. Furthermore, nothing that you listed, other than affirmative action (which is a racist policy) is specific to blacks.