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Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

All fossils are transitional fossils. Your great great grandparents are (or at least, will come to be) transitional fossils. So are mine.

OK, so where are the ones that relate to my great, great, great, great, great grandpa lizard?
 
OK, so where are the ones that relate to my great, great, great, great, great grandpa lizard?

Errr, both you and your great great grandparents are related to your great great great great grandpa mammal ancestor. If you would like to see them, dig up your great great grandparents. It's quite simple really.

I substituted lizard with mammal to avoid your obtuseness.
 
OK, so where are the ones that relate to my great, great, great, great, great grandpa lizard?

It sounds like you want to have a lizard, a human and in between...an APELIZARD! Is that basically what you're asking?
 
The point is, we don't have record of one species morphing into another species. Saying so is a deliberate lie.

Wrong.

The cabbage whit butterfly has almost been replaced by the cabbage green butterfly during the later 20th century. The new mutated version of the butterfly has some advantage over the white version.

There are now 2 types of willow warbler which do not interbreed and have overlapping territories. The differences between the 2 are behavioral. These differences in behavior have and will continue to produce different selection pressures on the 2 populations.

How many breeds of dog are there? We certainly have very full records of such human induced evolution.

You are wrong and know it.
 
It sounds like you want to have a lizard, a human and in between...an APELIZARD! Is that basically what you're asking?

There is a complete absence of traditional fossils that link entirely different species as Evolution suggests they became. That's the point. There are limits to viability of the farthest reaches of evolutionary theory.
 

Wrong.

The cabbage whit butterfly has almost been replaced by the cabbage green butterfly during the later 20th century. The new mutated version of the butterfly has some advantage over the white version.

There are now 2 types of willow warbler which do not interbreed and have overlapping territories. The differences between the 2 are behavioral. These differences in behavior have and will continue to produce different selection pressures on the 2 populations.

How many breeds of dog are there? We certainly have very full records of such human induced evolution.

You are wrong and know it.

Again, not one example of one animal becoming another. I'm not debating that species evolve according to their conditions, or that the strongest survive. People are much taller now just a few hundred years ago, but that doesn't make us the descendants of a fish that crawled out of the ocean.

Show me fossilized examples of one animal evolving into something completely different.
 
There is a complete absence of traditional fossils that link entirely different species as Evolution suggests they became.

And what do you base that statement on?
 
Again, not one example of one animal becoming another. I'm not debating that species evolve according to their conditions, or that the strongest survive. People are much taller now just a few hundred years ago, but that doesn't make us the descendants of a fish that crawled out of the ocean.

Show me fossilized examples of one animal evolving into something completely different.

If two groups of the same species are geographically separated into two groups, and the second group evolves to the point that it can no longer produce fertile offspring if it mates with the first group, then that constitutes speciation. So if the cabbage whit butterfly changes into a cabbage green butterfly and the latter can no longer produce fertile offspring with the former, bam, different species.
 
They might as well be. We know for a fact that everything is moving further apart from each other which tells us that everything started from a single point.

There's no evidence that just because the universe is expanding that it started at a point. It's a sound theory but hardly factual.

You want to go ahead and tell us that God did the big bang? Fine, but don't tell us the big bang didn't happen.

What does God have to do with this? :confused:
 
And what do you base that statement on?

There are no physical links to prove so. There's nothing that explains the origin of man. And there's certainly nothing that explains the origin of matter.

All we know is that a lot of species have walked this earth over time. Some are still here, while others are extinct. Some of have changed and adapted over the long process of natural selection and survival of the fittest.

But how they all got here in the first place is a complete mystery.
 
There's no evidence that just because the universe is expanding that it started at a point. It's a sound theory but hardly factual.

It's factual. If the universe started from, say, multiple places, then you'd have evidence of some things moving closer, some moving further apart. Instead, everything's moving apart.

What does God have to do with this? :confused:

You tell me. The only barrier to accepting evolution or the big bang is religion.
 
If two groups of the same species are geographically separated into two groups, and the second group evolves to the point that it can no longer produce fertile offspring if it mates with the first group, then that constitutes speciation. So if the cabbage whit butterfly changes into a cabbage green butterfly and the latter can no longer produce fertile offspring with the former, bam, different species.

And where were those species when the earth was covered with water?
 
Benedict also seemed to be down with the Big Bang as well. I take Francis to be reaffirming that the church is still cool with science for the most part. You know, just for those who might be wondering if a change in pope meant science might stop existing or something.

Its nice seeing them embrace knowledge and education rather than torturing and killing people for said knowledge and education. I like this pope.
 
You tell me. The only barrier to accepting evolution or the big bang is religion.

No, the barrier comes from where those first two atoms came from that caused the big bang and how that morphed into you and I having this discussion.
 
No, the barrier comes from where those first two atoms came from that caused the big bang and how that morphed into you and I having this discussion.

Wha...??? Erod, you're really not qualified to be having this discussion.
 
Again, a stilted BS claim from atheists.

There are numerous holes in the Theory of Evolution. Whatever the truth is, that isn't it either. It explains almost nothing; it has the depth of a 5th-grade essay.

You were just saying how science proves faith then you and go on this post and attack science. A little consistency please.
 
Are you saying those moths spontaneously generated from thin air? Where did they come from? What was their origin?

Yeah, that's it. The moths spontaneously generated from thin air. That's exactly what science found to happen. Maybe you should stick to topics on politics and faith.
 
You were just saying how science proves faith then you and go on this post and attack science. A little consistency please.

I'm not attacking science. I'm just saying we have woefully incomplete science.
 
Yeah, that's it. The moths spontaneously generated from thin air. That's exactly what science found to happen. Maybe you should stick to topics on politics and faith.

Geez. Do you not understand chicken-and-egg? Where did these first moths come from? Evolutionary theory remains wildly incomplete until that can be answered.
 
Geez. Do you not understand chicken-and-egg? Where did these first moths come from? Evolutionary theory remains wildly incomplete until that can be answered.

Have you seen cosmos?

You could learn a ton from here.

http://www.talkorigins.org/
 
Again, not one example of one animal becoming another. I'm not debating that species evolve according to their conditions, or that the strongest survive. People are much taller now just a few hundred years ago, but that doesn't make us the descendants of a fish that crawled out of the ocean.

Show me fossilized examples of one animal evolving into something completely different.

As you already fully know that is not what the theory of evolution says happens. To say that it is is false.
 
Wha...??? Erod, you're really not qualified to be having this discussion.

No, you don't understand the discussion at hand. You run from the question of origin. Big Bang is a theory on origin. That, by definition, led to the existence of you and I, correct?

I'm trying to establish the origin of life, and how that evolved into millions of different creatures. And the original point remains, there are no fossil records that link the transition of one species into something entirely different as evolution insists happened.
 
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