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Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi[W:480]

Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Joe Steel said:
In an earlier posting I noted the possibility someone might be required to have a gun. Military and law enforcement personnel are among those who might have to have them. For them, killing is a necessary part of their duty to the community.
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And should one of them turn on the community then what do you suggest? Wait until the next election cycle and vote them out?
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Joe Steel said:
Guns make killing fast, safe and easy. At the margin, some will kill because of the utility a gun provides.
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You wanna' 'splain that comment ?
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Fenton said:
It may not be a " faith " in the sense that you don't worship your belief in a Godless world, but your belief DOES TAKE FAITH.

Unless you can disprove the existence of a creator.

I haven't see a Atheist accomplish this yet.
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you keep on coming back to that "unless you can disprove" crapolla
no dude
it simply don't work that way
an atheist simply disbelieves in any (and all) higher deities
and it certainly doesn't take faith to do that
I mean...come on...lets get real
do you need faith not to believe in things that go bump in the night?
...the opposite of faith is reason
reason is what the atheist has as opposed to your faith
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its as simple as that
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Joe Steel said:
In an earlier posting I noted the possibility someone might be required to have a gun. Military and law enforcement personnel are among those who might have to have them. For them, killing is a necessary part of their duty to the community.
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Defending myself and those nearby is a duty I must maintain.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Joe Steel said:
If you didn't have the gun, you would have taken other precautions. I doubt you would be slaughtered.
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So you are clairvoyant? What other "precautions" am I suppose to take? Iron bars? Mine my lawn? And how dare you try to tell me or make assumptions about how I should protect my home and family. I can see why St Louis is what it is.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Joe Steel said:
The NRA has dismissed the death of the innocents as just part of the cost of doing business. To the NRA, dead children are close to meaningless. Supporting the NRA is a reprehensible and repugnant behavior.
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The NRA holds the criminal to blame. Not the gun. Do you blame cars for DUI deaths? Or the drunk driver? But I will tell you with a smile, those dead dont trump my rights.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

lizzie said:
That makes no difference. If someone wants to kill, they are going to do it, regardless of their possession of a gun (or not).
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Do you understand "marginality?"
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Joe Steel said:
Do you understand "marginality?"
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The basis for your anti-gun arguments.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

CRUE CAB said:
So you are clairvoyant? What other "precautions" am I suppose to take? Iron bars? Mine my lawn? And how dare you try to tell me or make assumptions about how I should protect my home and family. I can see why St Louis is what it is.
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I'm trying to show you the error of your paradigm. You're looking at your situation as if the only which would change is the gun possession. Had we banned personal gun possession years ago, you would be living in a different situation and very well might not need a gun.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Joe Steel said:
Do you understand "marginality?"
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In it's relation to statistics? Yes. And?
That doesn't change the fact that the absence of guns won't change the actual problem- the people. If I really want to kill someone, and I have no access to a gun, do you really think I'm not innovative enough to accomplish my goal?
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

lizzie said:
In it's relation to statistics? Yes. And?

That doesn't change the fact that the absence of guns won't change the actual problem- the people. If I really want to kill someone, and I have no access to a gun, do you really think I'm not innovative enough to accomplish my goal?
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At the margin, some will not kill because they do not a suitable means. Guns provide them the means. They won't have to get close enough to use a knife or club and won't have to be clever enough to use a bomb or poison.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Joe Steel said:
Despite all the gun cult mythology about defensive gun uses, guns do more harm than good. Severely restricting possession would be a net benefit to the community.
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That would require constitutional amendment and is very unlikely to happen. Rather than dream of gun control we should concentrate on control of criminals and the criminally insane. The only positive thing about suicidal nuts is that they only strike once. As far as guns doing more harm than good - how do you explain more guns yet lower gun crime? Where I live (rural Texas) nearly every home has at least one gun and likely the average is more than one gun per home. The violent crime rate in Uhland, Texas (population 1041) is under 4 per year.

Kyle TX 78640 crime rates and crime statistics - NeighborhoodScout
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Joe Steel said:
Of course they do. They represent the gun industry.
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Clearly you are fine with being an unarmed victim. I am not.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Joe Steel said:
I'm trying to show you the error of your paradigm. You're looking at your situation as if the only which would change is the gun possession. Had we banned personal gun possession years ago, you would be living in a different situation and very well might not need a gun.
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Wow, talk about a HUGE what if. I will gladly take my semi dangerous freedom over some promise of some un attainable utopia.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Boo Radley said:
Yes, for defense of the country. The world with different then and an armed citizen militia was necessary. So, no, as things have changed we have no reason to believe they wouldn't have changed as well.
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Has human nature changed?Have men become angels? The world of men (and women) has not changed. There are tyrants today just as there were tyrants then. There are wannabe tyrants now just as there were then. Fortunately there remain a small number of patriots today just as then to fight the wannabe tyrants and the rest of the authoritarian statists. You, and people like you, who believe as you believe, are clear examples of how nothing has changed. The patriots must be armed as long as the authoritarian statists and fellow travelers are with us.
 
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Re: School shooting in Maryville, Washington

mrmacq said:
no no
not read about
I have read some...
"but I have read some hey zeus followers chanting loudly at glassing all those "ragheads"
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these are self confessed hey zeus followers posting to discussion sites
(they also tend to think they're a tad holier than thou " types)
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"Some" or "about"--what difference does it make? Can you provide links and support your claim, or not?
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

stonewall50 said:
Yes. The world is different. Invasion isn't as much of a threat as someone breaking into my home or robbing me in the street. So my rights should reflect that...people deserve the right to defend themselves.
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We do not deserve the right. We have the right. The state may choose to stop defending my rights. But they cannot take my rights away.

At some point this will be decided by the force of arms.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Joe Steel said:
That's the problem. At the margin, gun are the difference between life or death.
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Imagine that. We almost agree. I am delighted that you will choose death over life. I will remain armed and choose life.

I hope no one is depending on you.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Boo Radley said:
Well, your gun won't do that. You're out gunned and out manned. You better have a plan B.
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This is absolutely not true. A few tens of millions of armed citizens can utterly destroy the military.
 
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Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Joe Steel said:
Despite all the gun cult mythology about defensive gun uses, guns do more harm than good. Severely restricting possession would be a net benefit to the community.
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Feel completely free to remain defenseless.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Sheriff: Marysville shooter arranged meeting with victims
Posted by Christine Clarridge
Freshman Jaylen Fryberg texted five classmates to meet for lunch Friday at Marysville-Pilchuck High School before shooting them, Snohomish County Sheriff Ty Trenary said during a news conference Monday in Everett.
Trenary said once the five were seated at a table in the cafeteria, Fryberg opened fire with a handgun, killing two and wounding three others before taking his own life.
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Holy ****. He arranged for them to be at the same table. What a sinister monster.

Sheriff: Marysville shooter arranged meeting with victims | The Today File | Seattle Times
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

mrmacq said:
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because you might pull your pistolaros?
at a simple perceived slight?
is this whats meant by defending home and family?
is this your reason for having said firearms?
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a complete fail. Joe steel claims merely buying a gun is proof of evil intent. if each and every gun owner was as evil as joe steel claims, he would have been shot multiple times by now. the fact that he posts those hateful lies proves he doesn't believe what he says.

your analytical effort as to what I said is pretty pathetic.
 
Re: School shooting in Maryville, Washington

nota bene said:
"Some" or "about"--what difference does it make? Can you provide links and support your claim, or not?
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makes a hell of a lot of difference
as one would be first hand knowledge and the other not
good gawd...I would think that quite obvious
especially considering I took the time out to show you your error in reading my post
to your second question allow me to repeat once more
"these are self confessed hey zeus followers posting to discussion sites"
...will you read it this time?
or do you expect me to go through numerous discussion boards dating back a number of years
just for what exactly?
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now quite obviously I'm not about to do that
so perhaps you'll settle for this?
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"A United States soldier performed this epic version of The Star Spangled Banner during a flag raising ceremony in Afghanistan. His rendition is badass enough, but what makes this story even better is the fact that he blasted his guitar solo over the Muslim call to prayer, effectively giving Islamists the world over a metaphorical middle finger, courtesy of the red, white and blue
it’s nice to see someone stand up for the land of the free and the home of the brave, don’t you think?"
...except for that niggling fact that he was in their country dissing their religious culture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_VtTaqL72Pk
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does the saying "when in rome..." mean anything?
 
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