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Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi[W:480]

Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the
security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"
(mines got a lot more commas than yours ;) )
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"With its convoluted phrasing and clauses whose relation to each other is fuzzy, the
amendment begs a number of questions. What makes a "militia", and what makes it "well
regulated"? Who are the "people"? What kinds of "arms" can be kept and borne? Most crucially,
does this amendment's second half refer to all citizens, or only to members of a militia?"
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The Supreme Court's 1939 decision, while murky, affirmed that the amendment's purpose is to guarantee
an effective militia. In subsequent cases, the Court found that the National Guard is the equivalent
of earlier militias. Ten circuit courts have agreed, finding that Miller refers to individuals serving
in well-regulated militias.
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its always a matter of perspective
and before I'm accused of being anti firearm please understand I own three
...which I must admit I haven't stroked for sometime now...I should really go see to their needs soon ;)

most of those circuit cases involved the gorilla in the room-the tenth amendment problems and used a dishonest interpretation of CRUIKSHANK
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

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or
I have a completely different understanding of it
and
anything YOU will say about the constitution (needs to be tossed) to the rubbish heap
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actually that was a cheap shot from you
as your constitution involves a tad more than just the second
yet you label this one difference in viewpoint as my not understand the entire thing

this makes no sense. The 2A was intended to recognize a right of the people-individually and collectively, to keep and bear arms. It was not intended, in any way, to delegate power to the federal government
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

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"Registration systems also create accountability for firearm owners and discourage illegal sales.

Firearm registration laws can lead to the identification and prosecution of violent criminals by helping law enforcement quickly and reliably “trace” (identify the source of) firearms recovered from crime scenes. Firearm registration laws create comprehensive records of firearm ownership, which include a full description of each firearm and identify the owner. Comprehensive registration laws also require a firearm to be re-registered whenever title to the firearm is transferred, and law enforcement to be notified whenever the weapon is lost or stolen. As a result, registration laws help law enforcement quickly and reliably identify the owner of any firearm used in a crime."
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I honestly can not see why this is such a hassle to you
its a relatively simple procedure
...but then again I'm not the paranoid type

complete horsecrap. There is no evidence that registration does anything useful. The government should not know who has what firearms. where did you get that crap-it sounds like a talking point of some statist idiot
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

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"a well REGULATED militia..."
...rather intellectually lazy and silly wouldn't you say?

so you are back to claiming the 2A delegates power to the federal government

again that completely destroys your opinion on anything to do with constitutional construction
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

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so you should be allowed to sell to whomever you choose
and screw the general population if it happens to fall into the "wrong" hands
the gang banger out for payback
the psychotic wanting to do in your next prez
or the confused youth bent on payback for deemed wrongs (topic of this thread)
so long as it doesn't inconvenience you
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ya know...registration/background checks would (while not being all that strenuous) alleviate a lot of the problems youre having down there
but I get it
that's their responsibility

there should be no federal laws whatsoever

the state certainly has the power to say those convicted of felonies cannot own firearms

examine the war on drugs and get back to me
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

so you are back to claiming the 2A delegates power to the federal government

again that completely destroys your opinion on anything to do with constitutional construction

The phrase gives the reasoning for and allows for some regulation.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

The phrase gives the reasoning for and allows for some regulation.

complete lie. your understanding of the constitution is apparently deficient. show me where in the constitution itself that power was honestly and distinctly granted the federal government

well regulated meant a militia in working order. it says nothing about regulating small arms
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

so you are back to claiming the 2A delegates power to the federal government

again that completely destroys your opinion on anything to do with constitutional construction
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was this "constitution" not written for ALL the people?
whichever state you happen to reside in?
is it also not called "the constitution of the united states"?
so it must be then that it was written for a central power to exercise that control
and then theres your individual constitutions
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ya know
you seem big on saying the same thing over and over again without giving your justifications on why it is
that you feel it differently
...besides you missed the point
you had stated something along the lines of "doesn't mean they get to regulate it"
(I don't have your exact quote)
when the word appears right there in the wording...REGULATE
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

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was this "constitution" not written for ALL the people?
whichever state you happen to reside in?
is it also not called "the constitution of the united states"?
so it must be then that it was written for a central power to exercise that control
and then theres your individual constitutions
.
ya know
you seem big on saying the same thing over and over again without giving your justifications on why it is
that you feel it differently
...besides you missed the point
you had stated something along the lines of "doesn't mean they get to regulate it"
(I don't have your exact quote)
when the word appears right there in the wording...REGULATE

your disjointed post makes no sense. you apparently have no education in constitutional law. You are claiming that the 2A is a delegation of power to the federal government rather than being added to specifically restrict the federal government.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

well regulated meant a militia in working order.
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yes
I've heard that one as well
I'm not buying it
whats a militia in working order mean?
three or more guys that aren't pissed as a nit
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

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yes
I've heard that one as well
I'm not buying it
whats a militia in working order mean?
three or more guys that aren't pissed as a nit

so it is your position that where the federal government was properly given the authority to regulate arms is in the first clause of the second amendment

great

dismissed
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

your disjointed post makes no sense. you apparently have no education in constitutional law. You are claiming that the 2A is a delegation of power to the federal government rather than being added to specifically restrict the federal government.

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no
I don't think I am saying that
the second was written when America had no standing army (to speak of)
and the founders wanted none
and the citizens were expected to hold the fort against outside aggression
however
they must be a regulated militia
that was your right to bear arms as citizen Mohammed
again it comes all down to interpretation of that poorly worded document
now believe it or not
many of your scholars (and your courts) agree
and surprise surprise
they all aren't lefties
and some even actually own firearms
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

so it is your position that where the federal government was properly given the authority to regulate arms is in the first clause of the second amendment

great

dismissed
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your quite dismissive aint cha?
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so question then
just who does it fall on to regulate?
sally sue?
bubba john?
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

complete lie. your understanding of the constitution is apparently deficient. show me where in the constitution itself that power was honestly and distinctly granted the federal government

well regulated meant a militia in working order. it says nothing about regulating small arms

well holy crap
its been noticed that anyone and everyone that doesn't agree with you
know dick all ref that clause
there might be a pattern developing here
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

there should be no federal laws whatsoever

but federal monies you will accept
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dude
then you might as well try succeeding
(though a word of warning...that probably wont work out very well)
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

most of those circuit cases involved the gorilla in the room-the tenth amendment problems and used a dishonest interpretation of CRUIKSHANK

dishonest?
your opinion?
so
your justices know nothing?
theyre all a bunch of crooks liars and thieves?
or is it
they don't agree with you
so therefore they are wrong?
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Like I said, you better have a plan B. Not much you can do dead. yes, we don't have access to fighter jets, nukes, and like. You can't fight government this way. And you don't have millions behind you for the faux tyranny often presented on these pages.

this just in
David Barton: Second Amendment Guarantees Right To Own Tanks And Fighter Jets
(oh my gawd)
Addicting Info – David Barton: Second Amendment Guarantees Right To Own Tanks And Fighter Jets(AUDIO)
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

They target lawful owners.
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moronic laws that ban tasers and pepper spray .
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they target the firearm
ref the taser and pepper spray
theres a lot of weirdos out there
that just might play for kicks figuring it cant hurt
but how many times do we see overuse of tasers dropping someone dead?
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its all fun till someone pokes out an eye
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

dishonest?
your opinion?
so
your justices know nothing?
theyre all a bunch of crooks liars and thieves?
or is it
they don't agree with you
so therefore they are wrong?

any justice who claimed that the 2nd A is not about individual rights is dishonest
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

tanks aren't guns so your claim didn't make sense unless applied to this

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the barrel on a tank is an oversized firearm
lbut ets not quibble
(perhaps if I had stated Abrams the comment wouldn't have fallen short)
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

but federal monies you will accept
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dude
then you might as well try succeeding
(though a word of warning...that probably wont work out very well)


your posts are becoming even less coherent. there should be no federal gun laws whatsoever since the federal government has no legitimate power in that area. Sorry, the use of the commerce clause was incredibly dishonest
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

the barrel on a tank is an oversized firearm
lbut ets not quibble
(perhaps if I had stated Abrams the comment wouldn't have fallen short)

its artillery not an arm. its not a firearm but a cannon
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

any justice who claimed that the 2nd A is not about individual rights is dishonest

but its not
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there
does that make moi dishonest as well?
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

its artillery not an arm. its not a firearm but a cannon
its a frickin tube which a projectile runs through propelled by escaping gasses
usually initiated by a trigger mechanism
the spent casing is then ejected
...sounds eerily similar enough to me
BUT
as I said
"lbut ets not quibble"
(which was suppose to read "but lets not quibble...yet here we are)
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

but its not
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there
does that make moi dishonest as well?

remind me of your training in constitutional law.

its clearly about an individual right

what pre-existing right did the founders seek to recognize with the 2A?
 
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