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Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

"Authoritarian statists might be unteachable. Do you believe the states should compel businesses to have unions? Should states intercede on behalf of unions to tip the scales against businesses? Or should the worthless, parasitic unions be allowed to die?"

What gives you the impression that I fear unions?


I have few feelings for parasites.


See. You are an authoritarian statist. It was obvious from your first post.
Let me know when you're capable of having an intellectual discussion.
Of course you do. Rather than admitting you support policies that make Atlas shrug and leave your union asses, you want to try to force them and stay and suffer the rest of your bad ideas...

Your lot will NEVER learn.
Atlas didn't shrug, it found someone willing to accept a low ball offer. There's a sucker born every minute.
 
Let me know when you're capable of having an intellectual discussion.

:roll:

As if personal attacks constituted intellectual discussion. I'm ready for one, let me know when you have more than just insults.

Atlas didn't shrug, it found someone willing to accept a low ball offer. There's a sucker born every minute.

You clearly do not understand the meaning of the expression.
 
Deflect all you want. Radical left kooks do not understand that they are responsible for the amount of value they have to a company. Radical left kooks disengage their failures to offer anything of value from what they believe they should be paid.

I do not know why radical left kooks never learn. I suppose if a radical left kook had any brains he would not be a radical left kook. What do you think?

What do I think?

I think much like a lot of folks around here do. I think you are a troll with no substance without a civil bone in your body. But what does that have to do with anything?

Hey, you asked. :coffeepap
 
This answer tells me that you realize you are already being paid what you are worth.

I'm happy with what I am paid. I love my job and feel very fortunate. However, I also realize that as a professional, I have many more options than the average worker. The fallacy of the argument that people like you make is that you assume that tax cuts and benefits to the wealthy will "trickle down" and benefit everyone. The truth is, very little actually ever trickles down.
 
It is okay. I do not believe you are up it.
"I know you are but what am I."


:roll:

As if personal attacks constituted intellectual discussion. I'm ready for one, let me know when you have more than just insults.
His posts in this thread have been limited to trolling, thus far.
You clearly do not understand the meaning of the expression.
Corporations don't hold up the earth. Workers do. Rand's self righteous views don't reflect reality.
 
"Radical left kooks do not understand that they are responsible for the amount of value they have to a company. Radical left kooks disengage their failures to offer anything of value from what they believe they should be paid.

I do not know why radical left kooks never learn. I suppose if a radical left kook had any brains he would not be a radical left kook.
What do I think?

I think much like a lot of folks around here do. I think you are a troll with no substance without a civil bone in your body. But what does that have to do with anything?

Hey, you asked. :coffeepap
I am happy you gave your opinion. I will stick with radical left kooks have no understanding of the relationship between the value they bring, or fail to, and the pay they receive.
 
"This answer tells me that you realize you are already being paid what you are worth."
I'm happy with what I am paid.
We come to agreement. You are being paid what you are worth.
I love my job and feel very fortunate. However, I also realize that as a professional, I have many more options than the average worker.
You are being paid what you are worth. What is the difference between you and everyone else who is also paid what they are worth?
The fallacy of the argument that people like you make is that you assume that tax cuts and benefits to the wealthy will "trickle down" and benefit everyone. The truth is, very little actually ever trickles down.
I cannot recall mentioning tax rate cuts. However, the people who actually pay the taxes are the ones who get the cuts.

You are being paid what you are worth. So is everyone else.
 
I don't know why the entire country hasn't sent all our jobs to China. That seems to make the GOP very happy. More money for the top 1%.

Screw the American middle class worker. The Chinese will do it for half the price and live off rice.

To me, there is an "us" and a "them."

Us, believes that a person who works a 40 hour week deserves a living wage, health benefits, educate their children without signing their life away for student loans, (and an occasional trip to Disney.)

"Them," believes we don't deserve squat and should be grateful for the crumbs that slip through the cracks of the tables of the rich.

Who in the hell do you think this current stock market is helping if not the top 1%? Tell me that the 20 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers are benefiting from this economy? It really is amazing what selective memories you people have as well as outrage. Such low standards, why?
 
If you changed the highlighted word to ME....you would be 100% on point.

I would be happy to admit when I am wrong when you prove it. You post BLS data that doesn't survey California and call it fact. You seem to have a serious problem with reality. How can TX have more people on minimum wage when California isn't surveyed as part of BLS?
 
Well, I've experienced more of Texas. I was born here and have lived here for over 59 years.



What is "obvious" to you is no concern of mine. Feel free to be wrong, both about Texas and about politics.

The problem is TX leads the nation in population growth and is at the top in job creation, seems it is you that has a biased partisan view of TX with lack of knowledge of reality. You apparently cannot see the forest for the trees
 
The Marxist's influence is strong in this one.

Corporations are fictional, workers are humans and real. My priorities fall with humans rather than fictional entities intended to protect the wealth of the elites.
 
"The Marxist's influence is strong in this one."
Corporations are fictional, workers are humans and real. My priorities fall with humans rather than fictional entities intended to protect the wealth of the elites.
The Marxist's influence is strong in this one. Radical Karl would agree with your sympathies. The people who put their capital at risk were his target and yours.
 
I would be happy to admit when I am wrong when you prove it. You post BLS data that doesn't survey California and call it fact. You seem to have a serious problem with reality. How can TX have more people on minimum wage when California isn't surveyed as part of BLS?

LOL....now this post is absolutely hilarious.
 
"The Marxist's influence is strong in this one."

The Marxist's influence is strong in this one. Radical Karl would agree with your sympathies. The people who put their capital at risk were his target and yours.
I'm assuming you know what an ad hominem is, based on your unrelenting reliance on them.
 
"The Marxist's influence is strong in this one."

The Marxist's influence is strong in this one. Radical Karl would agree with your sympathies. The people who put their capital at risk were his target and yours."
I'm assuming you know what an ad hominem is, based on your unrelenting reliance on them.
Do you disagree? How is your stance against the people who own businesses different from Radical Karl's?
 
"The Marxist's influence is strong in this one."

The Marxist's influence is strong in this one. Radical Karl would agree with your sympathies. The people who put their capital at risk were his target and yours."

Do you disagree? How is your stance against the people who own businesses different from Radical Karl's?
I'm not advocating absolute equality. I'm advocating means to increase access to opportunity, influence, and balance.

Wanting a more equal system isn't interchangeable to wanting an absolutely equal system. It's sophomoric to argue that the two are synonymous.
 
Glad you have a sense of humor now prove that Texas has more people making minimum wage than California?

LOL...Your favorite BLS numbers tell the story. Texas and Mississippi are tied as the worst states.....those with the highest percentage of people working for minimum wage. You've seen the numbers.....you just choose to shuffle, dance and try to rationalize. But facts don't lie Con....no matter how much you don't like them.
 
"What the union really wanted, according to Kinkisharyo officials, was clearance to organize the plant without any interference from the company."

Workers have a right to organize.

Here in CA workers have a right to work and unions dont like that. Just another example of business calling labors bluff and leaving. Unions are on their way out, but they are still intent on taking prosperity with them.
 
I realize that scab friendly states undercut fair paying and safe jobs.

I believe workers' rights should be strengthened nationally to prevent other states from allowing the race to the bottom that we've been seeing for decades now as middle class jobs disappear while corporate profits skyrocket.

This is simply untrue. Per capita income, workplace safety, etc are all up while union membership continues to plummet. They are vestiges of class struggle marxism fail. Kiss em goodbye.
 
This is simply untrue. Per capita income, workplace safety, etc are all up while union membership continues to plummet. They are vestiges of class struggle marxism fail. Kiss em goodbye.

"Per capita income" doesn't specify who's getting richer. It doesn't address the wealth inequality that has been consistently favoring the richest Americans.
 
""The Marxist's influence is strong in this one."

The Marxist's influence is strong in this one. Radical Karl would agree with your sympathies. The people who put their capital at risk were his target and yours."

Do you disagree? How is your stance against the people who own businesses different from Radical Karl's?"
I'm not advocating absolute equality. I'm advocating means to increase access to opportunity, influence, and balance.

Wanting a more equal system isn't interchangeable to wanting an absolutely equal system. It's sophomoric to argue that the two are synonymous.
Who is your target? Your target is anyone who owns anything of value. And Radical Karl? He sounded just the same as you do today. You may not know this but you and Karl Marx are peas in the same pod. You want the dictatorship of the proles to make life fair for you since you are incapable of competing on your own.
 
"Per capita income" doesn't specify who's getting richer. It doesn't address the wealth inequality that has been consistently favoring the richest Americans.

As a general rule people who have something of value to offer get more than people who live in their unmarried mother's basement, smoke pot and hang around on political web sites, hoping the government will steal even more from the productive to give to them.

If you want to earn more try to be worth more.
 
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