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What could go wrong? Volunteers go door-to-door ‘ballot harvesting’ in Colorado

DifferentDrummr said:
Which probably has something to do with why California counts the mail-in ballots only when the race is close enough for them to affect the outcome. Apart from that, ballots are printed on watermarked card stock (and use calibration ink marks), so they're not exactly easy to forge.
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It's my understanding that Co. voters can just print ballots from their computers....Is that true?
 
DifferentDrummr said:
My guess would be the voter registration form they have on file. People going to the polls also have to print their names in a ledger and sign it.
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What I've been seeing personally, in the last two election cycles, is that people go to their polling place to vote, and are informed that they have already voted. The people I have seen this happen to were older folks, a couple of them using walkers to get around, but mentally sound. They go to vote, and are unable to, because apparently, someone else has already sent in a ballot by mail with their name on it. I suspect that fraud by absentee ballot is a real problem.
 
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'Ballot harvesting' by Colorado campaign workers raises vote abuse fears - Washington Times


At the same time, he’s less concerned about door-to-door ballot harvesting. “If you’re giving your ballot to somebody you don’t know, and your ballot doesn’t get cast, there’s nobody to blame but yourself,” Mr. Harvey said.
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So it is apparently legal in Colorado for someone to collect some ballots and mail or turn them in as a group. Doesn't mean they are doing anything to the ballots themselves; just making sure they get in.

If the ballots get altered, pretty sure that will get caught by the vote counting machines.

It's all about getting more people to vote, which we need in this country.
 
paddymcdougall said:
I like this comment -

'Ballot harvesting' by Colorado campaign workers raises vote abuse fears - Washington Times




So it is apparently legal in Colorado for someone to collect some ballots and mail or turn them in as a group. Doesn't mean they are doing anything to the ballots themselves; just making sure they get in.

If the ballots get altered, pretty sure that will get caught by the vote counting machines.

It's all about getting more people to vote, which we need in this country.
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People will rest easier now that you're "pretty sure".
 
Lutherf said:
At the poll I have to show ID and sign the roll book before I get a ballot. If someone has already voted using my name I can verify the signature right there. With a mail in ballot, however, I probably won't even know if someone else has submitted one in my name and won't be able to verify the signature unless someone reports the discrepancy and contacts me. While a mail in ballot envelope needs to be signed the ONLY verification I'm aware of is that the ballot is mailed to my registered address.
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Luther, I voted with mail in ballot in this years primary because I'm registered as an independent and it's the only way I can vote in the primary. I went on line and requested a ballot. They mailed it to me. I filled it out and dropped it off at the polling place. No ID was shown.
 
Boo Radley said:
I wonder if anyone will ever actually prove serious fraud or continue with the maybe's and could be's?
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Question for you. If there is no mechanism in place to verify who's voting, how can you determine if any fraud is being committed?
 
KevinKohler said:
I might not be able to prove someone put in a fish in my tub, but it sure smells like one.
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That's just a silly way of saying you don't have anything, but you don't want any thinking person ruining the fanasty.
 
azgreg said:
Question for you. If there is no mechanism in place to verify who's voting, how can you determine if any fraud is being committed?
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It hasn't been that hard, and no one says there is no mechanism. There are plenty of IDs that aren't photo for example. But to simply cliam something has happened without evidence is becoming all too common lately. I say put up, or quit making the claim.
 
Grant said:
People will rest easier now that you're "pretty sure".
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Glad to know it.

If you actually get evidence that people are handing their ballots to total strangers -whether repubs or dems - be sure to post it here.
 
Boo Radley said:
A past one you can show now, . . . If there was one. For the republican: Mike Turzai, Pennsylvania GOP House Majority Leader: Voter ID Will Allow Mitt Romney To Win State
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A past one? Are you joking here? Or did you just jump into another thread without reading the OP thinking you could just stifle discussion by throwing out absurd comments?

The new law in Colorado take effect for this election....But if you want examples of irregularities, a couple have already been posted on the previous page that you ignore.


There are plenty of IDs that aren't photo for example.
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There is only ONE reason you would want to use ID without photo's, and we all know what that is Joe...
 
j-mac said:
A past one? Are you joking here? Or did you just jump into another thread without reading the OP thinking you could just stifle discussion by throwing out absurd comments?

The new law in Colorado take effect for this election....But if you want examples of irregularities, a couple have already been posted on the previous page that you ignore.




There is only ONE reason you would want to use ID without photo's, and we all know what that is Joe...
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Yes, I read it. But the point was something to deal with something you can't prove has happened. And no, there isn't J. Seriously, investigate just a little. The republican I linked for you stated the republican case rather clearly. Hinder turnout and we'll win. It's not about anyone doing anything illegal.
 
j-mac said:
A past one? Are you joking here? Or did you just jump into another thread without reading the OP thinking you could just stifle discussion by throwing out absurd comments?

The new law in Colorado take effect for this election....But if you want examples of irregularities, a couple have already been posted on the previous page that you ignore.




There is only ONE reason you would want to use ID without photo's, and we all know what that is Joe...
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For edification: Why Voter ID Laws Aren?t Really about Fraud | Government / Elections / Politics | FRONTLINE | PBS
 
lizzie said:
What I've been seeing personally, in the last two election cycles, is that people go to their polling place to vote, and are informed that they have already voted. The people I have seen this happen to were older folks, a couple of them using walkers to get around, but mentally sound. They go to vote, and are unable to, because apparently, someone else has already sent in a ballot by mail with their name on it. I suspect that fraud by absentee ballot is a real problem.
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Has anyone studied it? I would think that various watchdog groups would be going nuts right now if any widespread ballot fraud had been found.
 
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