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Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

j-mac said:
Your post here is just plain despicable bubba. Your dishonesty, and pablum is just stupid, and I am not going to argue with stupidity....Have a nice night.
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i accept your concession
 
JC_CT said:
Did you happen to catch that Wilson (allegedly, as reported through anonymous sources by the two respective newspapers) changed his story from what he told investigators to what he told the Grand Jury, with respect to whether he said anything to Brown or not before Brown stopped and turned around?
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If those reports are accurate, this is a matter of concern. There were also numerous conflicting witness accounts. That's why I felt that a Grand Jury inquiry was warranted. In the absence of such an inquiry, it would be difficult to get a good understanding of what happened.
 
JC_CT said:
What about the fact that he lied to the grand jury?
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and what lie would that be?

your post is worthless without supporting documentation. just saying.
 
apdst said:
What about Wilson's right to due process?
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he failed to exercise it is my speculation as nowhere do we see that he litigated to prevent his termination for bigotry
 
justabubba said:
i accept your concession
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Not even close...I just don't have the patience right now to show you all the ways that collection of blather, and false assertion is so...But good of you to yet again display arrogance and all around boorishness.
 
j-mac said:
Not even close...I just don't have the patience right now to show you all the ways that collection of blather, and false assertion is so...But good of you to yet again display arrogance and all around boorishness.
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thought you said 'night night':
Your post here is just plain despicable bubba. Your dishonesty, and pablum is just stupid, and I am not going to argue with stupidity....Have a nice night.
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when you are up to it i will give you another opportunity to refute my post
you can't. you won't. but you have the invitation to try. please do
 
1750Texan said:
Sadly we don't have Micheal's side of the incident. They say there are two sides to every story. Awesome the shooter has his.
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Why do you say "sadly"?
 
rcart76 said:
And there are multiple eye witnesses including white contractors who don't even know Brown and were not from the area that all stated that Brown had his hands up, but Wilson statement says that he did not have his hands up.

Interesting don't you think?
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Have you not seen the autopsy? You keep going on with this same line of crap that he had his hands up.

The bullet holes would have been in a very different place if he had had his hands up.
 
Mason66 said:
Have you not seen the autopsy? You keep going on with this same line of crap that he had his hands up.

The bullet holes would have been in a very different place if he had had his hands up.
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Except that he didn't have his hands up when the fatal shots were fired, and nobody is arguing that he did. Perfect example of a straw man argument.
 
Mason66 said:
Have you not seen the autopsy? You keep going on with this same line of crap that he had his hands up.

The bullet holes would have been in a very different place if he had had his hands up.
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from all the westerns i watched as a kid, the guys who were shot with their hands up then moved their hands to the place on the body where the bullet entered
would this young man not be expected to do the same
 
apdst said:
You have evidence that he lied to a grand jury?
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Yes and I already explained it, post 70.

But what the heck.

To investigators:
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To grand jury:
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apdst said:
How so?
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there is no record that he litigated his employment termination, which discharge was for racial bigotry

would seem he chose not to exercise his right to due process; at least within the legal system
 
justabubba said:
from all the westerns i watched as a kid, the guys who were shot with their hands up then moved their hands to the place on the body where the bullet entered
would this young man not be expected to do the same
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Are you really going to use B-westerns as evidence? :lamo
 
apdst said:
Are you really going to use B-westerns as evidence? :lamo
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i will refer to them to illustrate what a gun shot victim was likely to do with his hands once shot
 
JC_CT said:
See post #70.
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"Did you happen to catch that Wilson (allegedly, as reported through sources by the two respective newspapers) changed his story from what he told investigators to what he told the Grand Jury, with respect to whether he said anything to Brown or not before Brown stopped and turned around? STL Post-Dispatch reported that Wilson told investigators he didn't recall saying to Brown but that Brown just stopped and turned around, and the WaPo reported that Wilson told the GJ that he told Brown to stop and get on the ground before Brown turned around. "

Care to share links to the two respeced newspaper articles.

(if your post 70 is supporting documention, your definition and mine of documention are worlds apart.)

imo, your post 70 does not support anything without the links to the source.
 
mike2810 said:
"Did you happen to catch that Wilson (allegedly, as reported through sources by the two respective newspapers) changed his story from what he told investigators to what he told the Grand Jury, with respect to whether he said anything to Brown or not before Brown stopped and turned around? STL Post-Dispatch reported that Wilson told investigators he didn't recall saying to Brown but that Brown just stopped and turned around, and the WaPo reported that Wilson told the GJ that he told Brown to stop and get on the ground before Brown turned around. "

Care to share links to the two respeced newspaper articles.

(if your post 70 is supporting documention, your definition and mine of documention are worlds apart.)

imo, your post 70 does not support anything without the links to the source.
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See post 90.

See post 54.

See post 1.
 
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This last week from the Washington Post:

Because Wilson is white and Brown was black, the case has ignited intense debate over how police interact with African American men. But more than a half-dozen unnamed black witnesses have provided testimony to a St. Louis County grand jury that largely supports Wilson’s account of events of Aug. 9, according to several people familiar with the investigation who spoke with The Washington Post.
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And this paragraph I also found rather telling:

Benjamin L. Crump, a lawyer for the Brown family, said Brown’s family and supporters will not be persuaded by the autopsy report or eyewitness statements that back Wilson’s account of the incident.
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Looks like they are saying that either the cop is lynched, or they will destroy businesses and loot to their hearts content. Definitely get the popcorn, because the show is going to be one to watch.

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Grim17 said:
This last week from the Washington Post:



And this paragraph I also found rather telling:



Looks like they are saying that either the cop is lynched, or they will destroy businesses and loot to their hearts content. Definitely get the popcorn, because the show is going to be one to watch.

:popcorn2:
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Aren't you supposed to be providing links for your direct quotes?

That's OK, I'll help you out. See post 54.
 
And let's just throw the word lynch around like it has no historical context. That's cool.
 
1750Texan said:
Sadly we don't have Micheal's side of the incident. They say there are two sides to every story. Awesome the shooter has his.
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As you were told.
mike2810 said:
True there are two sides to a story.

The question should be is the forensic evidence supporting the "shooter" or not.

If the answer is yes, then does it really matter if the other sides story is available?

Even witness statements should be supported by other evidence.
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Sadly? Nah!
It is what happens when thugs bite off more than they can chew.




justabubba said:
there is no record that he litigated his employment termination, which discharge was for racial bigotry

would seem he chose not to exercise his right to due process; at least within the legal system
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You are speaking utter nonsense.

No, his discharge was not for racial bigotry. That is your bigotry speaking.
His discharge was because his job no longer existed because the Department was disbanded.
Why it was disbanded was not attributable to him. And he had a clean record at that department.




JC_CT said:
What about the fact that he lied to the grand jury?
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That is a ridiculously absurd claim.

You do understand that the interviews came before this testimony, right?
You do understand that it is reported that he said during interviews that he did not remember, right?
You do understand that other witnesses have him telling Brown to stop before turning, right?
You do understand that the GJ testimony came after his interviews, right?
Interviews ~ didn't remember
After interviews ~ remembered
During GJ testimony ~ relayed what he remembered​

So how is it that you do not understand that him remembering what happened (especially as it was witnessed by others) prior to testifying to the GJ allowed him to testify to such?

That is how things work with memory, or did you also not know that?
And yet you want to call it a lie. :doh That is just stupid.

And what is funny about this is your focus on something that is completely irrelevant.
Whether or not he remembered makes absolutely no difference to what happened prior to Brown turning, or after he turned and began approaching him.
 
JC_CT said:
Except that he didn't have his hands up when the fatal shots were fired, and nobody is arguing that he did. Perfect example of a straw man argument.
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What fatal shots are you talking about?

When was he supposed to have his hands up then?

isn't the narrative that he had his hands up and the officer shot him anyway?

if that were true, the bullets would have entered his arms at a different angle.

No straw man here, just you trying to ignore evidence.
 
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