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Obama will name Ron Klain as Ebola Czar [W:234, 285]

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But we could cancel flights going into Israel on a bomb threat right? Your argument that we can't is just silly. Of course we can.

We can do lots of things. The question is whether it's a good idea. Canceling visas from nations where Ebola has spread would be a good idea. Canceling flights wouldn't necessarily keep at risk people out.
 
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Would this have happened if the GOP wasn't shamelessly playing politics with blocking a surgeon General?

Then maybe the guy in question should've stuck to medicine instead of shooting his big yap off about guns.
 
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What outbreaks have hurt the USA besides Texas dropping the ball on protocol.
Not a coincidence to me it is Texas.

Still blaming Texas. Pathetic.
 
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The GOP wanted a czar before they didn't--their 6-year racist mantra against Obola.

It took 133 posts, but the race card finally got dropped.
 
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Then you must agree with the GOP blocking a Surgeon General who would already be doing the job of this ERC.

If the CDC director can't handle this problem, then who says an SG could?
 
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Why is Sen. McConnell filibustering the Surgeon General again?
Why does Bush-43 get to have a Surgeon General to fight AIDs but Obama doesn't get to have one to fight ebola again?
Why does the GOP play politics with life and death issues again?
The same McConnell who whined for straight-up-and-down votes last decade and got them?

If the CDC director can't handle this problem, then who says an SG could?

Why would you say something so completely nonsensical as this about not having the Nation's Doctor?
And then complain that President Ebola is to blame.

The GOP cuts of a billion to the CDC are to blame.
The Texas hospital that blatantly and incompetently dropped the ball are to blame.
Shame on the GOP for worsening the ebola problem and then blaming the President.
Just as they've done with every overseas problem we have .
 
Re: Obama will name Ron Klain as Ebola Czar

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He appointed a Political hack, someone that could spin this to his and the Democrats favor.

Politics FIRST.

(sorry needed those characters)

Indeed, as is most typical with Obama. Everything he does, every decision he makes, is ruled by politics. At least this hasn't escaped media attention, this time (oh but so many other times for sure).

Critics: Ebola appointment latest in missteps by officials

Obama’s Newly-Appointed ‘Ebola Czar’ Happens to Be Lacking in One Important Area of Expertise

Agreed, Klain is at worse, a political hack, and at best a politically motivated appointment.

Klain joined the Clinton-Gore campaign in 1992 and was involved in both of Bill Clinton's campaigns. He oversaw Clinton's judicial nominations, and was General Counsel to Al Gore's recount committee in 2000 election. Klain worked closely with Clinton aide Bruce Reed in formulating Clinton's "100,000 cops" proposal of his 1992 campaign,[citation needed] which has been described as "not [being] the primary or even secondary factor in the dramatic reduction in crime during the 1990's".[2] In the White House, Klain was Associate Counsel to the President, directing judicial selection efforts, and led the team that won confirmation of Supreme Court Associate Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. In 1994 he became Chief of Staff and Counselor to Attorney General Janet Reno and in 1995 Assistant to the President, and Chief of Staff to Al Gore.[citation needed]

Gore campaign 1999-2000

During Klain's tenure as Gore's Chief of Staff he was seen as too loyal to Clinton by some longtime Gore advisors and in 1999 feuding broke out between Clinton and Gore loyalists in 1999. Klain was ousted by Gore campaign chairman Tony Coelho in August 1999. In October 1999, he joined the Washington, D.C. office of the law firm of O'Melveny & Myers. In 2000, Klain returned to the Gore campaign, once Coelho was replaced by William M. Daley who hired Klain for a senior position in the Gore campaign and then named him General Counsel of Gore's Recount Committee.[citation needed]

Lobbying

Klain was signed up as a lobbyist for Fannie Mae until 2005 whom he helped overcome "regulatory issues".[3]
2004–2008

During the 2004 US presidential campaign early primaries, Klain worked as an adviser to Wesley Clark. During the general election, Klain was heavily involved behind the scenes in John Kerry's campaign.[4]
Klain served as an informal adviser to Evan Bayh, who is from Klain's home state of Indiana. In 2005, Klain left his partnership at O'Melveny & Myers to become Executive Vice President and General Counsel of Revolution LLC, a technology venture capital firm, launched by AOL co-founder Steve Case.[citation needed]. As of October 2014 he is General Counsel at Revolution LLC and President of Case Holdings.[5]
Obama administration 2008-present

On November 12, 2008, Roll Call announced that Klain had been chosen to serve as Chief of Staff to Vice President Joe Biden, the same role he served for Gore.[6][7][8]
Klain had worked with Biden previously, having served as counsel to the United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary while Biden chaired that committee and assisted Biden's speechwriting team during the 1988 presidential campaign.[9]
Klain was mentioned as a possible replacement for White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel,[10] but opted to leave the White House for a position in the private sector in January 2011.[8]

In 2011, amid concerns about whether the now-defunct solar-panel company Solyndra was viable, Klain approved an Obama visit, stating, "The reality is that if POTUS visited 10 such places over the next 10 months, probably a few will be belly-up by election day 2012."[11]
On October 17, 2014, Klain was appointed the "Ebola response coordinator" or, less officially, Ebola "czar"[5] by President Obama, to help coordinate the nation's response to the Ebola virus.[5][12][13][14] His appointment has been criticized because he "has no record or expertise in Ebola specifically or public health in general".[13]
Ron Klain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lobbyist? What happened to that promise from Obama?
For Fannie Mae to 'overcome "regulatory issues"'? Like not over exposing Fannie Mae to toxic mortgage risk?

This is a guy who's judgement we can trust? I'm thinking not.

Yeah, this guy, no practical leadership experience, no medical experience, IMHO no qualifications to be Ebola Czar. Rather than someone with leadership experience and capabilities, Thad Allen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, appoint a political hack.
 
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No, we should suspend the granting of new Visa's to people who originate out of Ebola plagued Nations.

it wouldn't be that difficult.

Yea, screw'em. Make them walk across the border like everyone else.
 
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You know he's nominated two candidates earlier in the year, right?

Then he needs to find one that they all can agree on. One that is not politically motivated to be a yes man.
 
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Then he needs to find one that they all can agree on. One that is not politically motivated to be a yes man.

Any nominee has already been deemed unqualified by the GOP, simply due to the fact that they're an Obama nominee.

The steadfast refusal of some to admit the GOP's role in the dark side of politics is laughable. It's like some of you actually believe that EVERYTHING bad is 100% the exclusive province of the Democrats, and the GOP are just innocent victims. It's mindblowing.
 
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Any nominee has already been deemed unqualified by the GOP, simply due to the fact that they're an Obama nominee.

The steadfast refusal of some to admit the GOP's role in the dark side of politics is laughable. It's like some of you actually believe that EVERYTHING bad is 100% the exclusive province of the Democrats, and the GOP are just innocent victims. It's mindblowing.
They were both very anti 2A and the NRA stepped up and proved that.
 
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They were both very anti 2A and the NRA stepped up and proved that.

I don't care, since gun policy does not fall under the purview of the Surgeon General.
 
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I don't care, since gun policy does not fall under the purview of the Surgeon General.

Yes it can. Remember the push to have doctors ask about gun ownership during visits? Or were you not paying attention? Or were you fine with it?
 
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Yea, screw'em. Make them walk across the border like everyone else.


That's one hell of a long walk.
 
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Hey look. Once again the same bit of propoganda gets pushed for a third time in this thread. Lets see if we go three for three with individuals not responding.

Obama doesn't get to have one to fight ebola again?

There is a Surgeon General currently, in an acting capacity. It is an individual the Obama Administration appointed. The position is not empty and non-existant. This is one of the large reasons they have "deputy" positions in the United States government.

The surgeon General grip is as bull**** political theater and partisan propaganda as the direct flight ban is

I don't know if people are honestly ignorant of how government works or if their just purposefully dishonest hyper partisan hacks, but either way as a government employee let me fill you in on how things work with significant position spike the surgeon general

They're never "vacant". We have an acting Surgeon General today, Boris Lushniak. He was named deputy surgeon General in 2010 under Obama's administration and is currently the acting surgeon general...which is precisely one of the main reason the government uses deputee executives, so that there is no lag in the position between official appointments.

Bitching about the surgeon General is like bitching about the directly fought ban...political theater. We have one, in the position due to an appointment by this administration. Either he's competent for the job, in which case all the political posturing is simply using this crisis to bash republicans in a hollow fashion, or he's not competent in which case sure...we need to hurry up and appoint an SG and then we need to see why we had an incompetent deputee appointed.
 
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I believe you just proved Kobie's point about Fauxnews driven opposition to anything Obama.

How so? In fact Florida and other states refused to mandate doctors ask anyone during visits about firearms. Nothing faux about it.
 
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Anyway about Klain, he shouldn't be there; he's technically unqualified.
 
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Any nominee has already been deemed unqualified by the GOP, simply due to the fact that they're an Obama nominee.

Let's assume for a moment you're right...that the GOP would deem anyone chosen by Obama as unqualified.

That still does not actually mean their claims that this individual is unqualified are WRONG.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you're implying he is competent for the job. If that's the case what you appear to be doing is using a sort of affirming the consequent fallacy. Essentially...

Even if the candidate was qualified the GOP would say he's unqualified because he's an Obama Nominee.
The GOP says he's unqualified because he's an Obama Nominee.
Therefore Klain is qualified.

Even if you question the motives behind the GOPs critique of this individual, I don't think you can honestly suggest that it's entirely unreasonable to offer criticism about the selection of an individual with zero medical experience being chosen to oversea a media "emergency". That's an entirely legitimate question to have regarding the potential qualifications of this individual.
 
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How so? In fact Florida and other states refused to mandate doctors ask anyone during visits about firearms. Nothing faux about it.
I see, you have yet to notice that your tangent is false (Dr.'s asking mentally ill patients if they have firearms in their homes has nothing to do with the SG having zero effect on "gun control")?

Again, this is proof that Fauxnews falsehoods amplify any and all opposition to anything "Obama".

Trying to tie "Gun control" to a director for ebola control is blowing the dog whistle a little hard.
 
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I believe you just proved Kobie's point about GOP/ Fauxnews driven opposition to anything Obama.


Four Falsehoods About Doctors And Guns Pushed By Conservative Media | Research | Media Matters for America

I believe this is the very same Media Matters that claims that internet fire arm purchases skirt federal regulations. They were completely wrong about that, and intentionally so. Why would anyone take MM's claims on anything concerning fire arms seriously when they've already proved to be intentionally misleading on the issue?
 
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I see, you have yet to notice that your tangent is false (Dr.'s asking mentally ill patients if they have firearms in their homes has nothing to do with the SG having zero effect on "gun control")?

Again, this is proof that Fauxnews falsehoods amplify any and all opposition to anything "Obama".

Trying to tie "Gun control" to a director for ebola control is blowing the dog whistle a little hard.
Wrong again. Had nothing to do with "mental illness".
 
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I believe you just proved Kobie's point about GOP/ Fauxnews driven opposition to anything Obama.


Four Falsehoods About Doctors And Guns Pushed By Conservative Media | Research | Media Matters for America

While I think calling it a "push" is rather ridiculous, nothing in your link counters what he claims. Three of the "falsehoods" in your link were dealing with things being "required", but Crue didn't suggest it was required. The final "falsehood" had to do with what ACA allowed for, which wasn't what Crue talked about either.

Ultimatley its an argument on ones opinion as to whether or not the Obama Administration "announced an executive action clarifying that doctors are permitted -- but not required -- to discuss gun safety with patients" is an instance of them "pushing" doctors to do such a thing.

Now I don't particularly think you can take that as evidence of them "pushing" for it, and I think it's not too difficult to argue against Crue Cab's point...but the information you provided from your partisan source doesn't do that in the least.
 
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While I think calling it...
I think anyone claiming that when a Doctor asks patients about potential threats to safety in their homes which includes guns.....is evidence that the Surgeon General is trying to effect "gun control"......has been blowing GOP dog whistles for far to long as it tends to cause hyperventilation.
 
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