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Obama will name Ron Klain as Ebola Czar [W:234, 285]

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The number of trigger happy, shoot first get the facts later (if ever) posters on this board is mind boggling...

Show us where Obama named him a Czar in any manner other than to indulge the press that is "enamored" with the term. The fetish, however, is purely of the right...

The fishwraps of record seem to think he's named a czar. Below are links to a WaPo video on Klain and to a NY Times piece that suggests why he was tapped:

Meet Ron Klain: The 'Ebola czar' - The Washington Post

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/18/u...e-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
 
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I'm good with the GOP stopping Obama from making a fool out of
himself as much as possible.

Like his appointing a Political hack with zero experience to be the " Ebola Czar ".

You should be " Good with that " too.

It's like we are putting a cork on his fork so he won't stab himself with it. Though it's for our own good, not his. Did you see the clowns that he nominated to be ambassadors? What a disaster.
 
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Which is why we lost the 2010 election.

I am proud to be a Democrat since 1983, when Reagan started the Total Accumulatred Debt (TAD) problem with tax cuts to the rich.

A move that GOP Majority Leader at the time Sen. Dole still calls his greatest mistake .

Yeah, how terrible that was. Cutting government, rebuilding the military from the disastrous Carter years, letting people keep more of their earnings. A proud, respected country. What a tyrant! 20 million jobs created well into the '90's, until Clinton raised taxes.

Compare that to the clown in office now!

Go sniffing somewhere else. The guy was a few thousand votes from sweeping all 50 States in his second election. That's what America thought of Reagan.
 
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The fishwraps of record seem to think he's named a czar. Below are links to a WaPo video on Klain and to a NY Times piece that suggests why he was tapped:

Meet Ron Klain: The 'Ebola czar' - The Washington Post

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/18/u...kage-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

... are your confirming my point or attempting to refute it? . the former is correct; the term Czar was created by the press to short-cut the actual title. The OP questioned Obama's obsession with "Czars" citing that Obama officially named some one a Czar. .... I was pointing out that Obama never used the term, its a term of the press.
 
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The surgeon General grip is as bull**** political theater and partisan propaganda as the direct flight ban is

I don't know if people are honestly ignorant of how government works or if their just purposefully dishonest hyper partisan hacks, but either way as a government employee let me fill you in on how things work with significant position spike the surgeon general

They're never "vacant". We have an acting Surgeon General today, Boris Lushniak. He was named deputy surgeon General in 2010 under Obama's administration and is currently the acting surgeon general...which is precisely one of the main reason the government uses deputee executives, so that there is no lag in the position between official appointments.

Bitching about the surgeon General is like bitching about the directly fought ban...political theater. We have one, in the position due to an appointment by this administration. Either he's competent for the job, in which case all the political posturing is simply using this crisis to bash republicans in a hollow fashion, or he's not competent in which case sure...we need to hurry up and appoint an SG and then we need to see why we had an incompetent deputee appointed.
 
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In regards to the Ebola "Czar", I can't fathom how a political apparatchik trumps an infectious disease medical professional.
 
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Does this mean the right wing is going to go into overload "Oh God Czar! Obama and his damn Czars! So un-American" mode again?

Anything to deflect from the shame our President is.
 
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Simpleχity;1063879199 said:
In regards to the Ebola "Czar", I can't fathom how a political apparatchik trumps an infectious disease medical professional.

The political hack does a better job dealing with the press.
 
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So four people in America have the Ebola virus and Obama creates an 'Ebola Czar'?

What's next?

A 'Tuesday Czar'?

A 'Lunchtime Czar'?

Or maybe a '4:35 p.m. Czar'?


So...thousands of Americans will die this year of the flu and Obama could care less. But 4 people have Ebola and it warrants a new 'Czar'.

:roll:


Sure, take Ebola seriously and do what can be done to keep it contained.

But an Ebola Czar when only four Americans even have it...give me a break.
 
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when you absolutely positively must come up with a solution....

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Hire a bureaucrat.
 
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Obama will name Ron Klain as Ebola Czar - CNN.com



Am I the only one who finds it less than reassuring for a man to be officially named the "Ebola Czar"?

What's with Obama and his "czar" fetish?

He was urged to pick a czar by his republican critics in congress and now he is chided for doing so by republicans. And furthermore we have not filled the position of Surgeon General because it's being blocked by the republicans.

What's run with this picture?

GOP lawmakers to Obama: Appoint a high-profile Ebola czar like Colin Powell - The Washington Post

The Smoking Ebola Gun: Rand Paul's Senate Hold Is Why The Nation Has No Surgeon General
 
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After yer post #124 to me, why would you continue to post yer lies to me j-mac?
Especially from a party that politicizes health and death this close to an election .

What exactly are you saying I am lying about here?

"Rep. Fred Upton, R-Mich. He called for a ban on the 100 to 150 people who fly into the U.S. each day from the three nations at the heart of the outbreak."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/second-texas-nurse-tests-positive-for-ebola/2014/10/15/6d8e0c8e-54ca-11e4-b86d-184ac281388d_story.html

You speak of "politicizing" this? Even as the DCCC are the first on the scene running ads for the election using Ebola as a political tool....

https://twitter.com/dccc/status/521761726250106881

Your postings are filled with nothing but Alensky tactic, and outright lies...Your credibility is nill.
 
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What exactly are you saying I am lying about here?

"Rep. Fred Upton, R-Mich. He called for a ban on the 100 to 150 people who fly into the U.S. each day from the three nations at the heart of the outbreak."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/second-texas-nurse-tests-positive-for-ebola/2014/10/15/6d8e0c8e-54ca-11e4-b86d-184ac281388d_story.html

You speak of "politicizing" this? Even as the DCCC are the first on the scene running ads for the election using Ebola as a political tool....

https://twitter.com/dccc/status/521761726250106881

Your postings are filled with nothing but Alensky tactic, and outright lies...Your credibility is nill.

Alinsky! Everybody drink!
 
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How about just naming a surgeon general?

Oh, CRUE CAB.



It's posts like this that show us ALL why there's no WAY you could ever be in charge, lol. A surgeon general.



Really. You crack me up.
 
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... are your confirming my point or attempting to refute it? . the former is correct; the term Czar was created by the press to short-cut the actual title. The OP questioned Obama's obsession with "Czars" citing that Obama officially named some one a Czar. .... I was pointing out that Obama never used the term, its a term of the press.

Oh, please do excuse me for taking literally what you said here when you were only making a simple comment on word choice: :roll:

"The number of trigger happy, shoot first get the facts later (if ever) posters on this board is mind boggling...

Show us where Obama named him a Czar in any manner other than to indulge the press that is "enamored" with the term. The fetish, however, is purely of the right..."
 
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Does this mean the right wing is going to go into overload "Oh God Czar! Obama and his damn Czars! So un-American" mode again?

So... You agree with his choice?

Or... are you just one of those that will defend the actions of the Administration regardless?
 
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So... You agree with his choice?

Or... are you just one of those that will defend the actions of the Administration regardless?

My guess is probably the latter, but he also doesn't think ebola is anything to be overly concerned about. Just another infectious disease- nothing to see here- move along.
 
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Oh, please do excuse me for taking literally what you said here when you were only making a simple comment on word choice: :roll:

"The number of trigger happy, shoot first get the facts later (if ever) posters on this board is mind boggling...

Show us where Obama named him a Czar in any manner other than to indulge the press that is "enamored" with the term. The fetish, however, is purely of the right..."

Meh, the dishonesty of this place is really starting to get to me...We have posters now getting away with saying the most vile of things, using mockery, and vitriol to attack, then hiding behind semantics, but at the same time running to mommy and complaining the moment they get offended by something you post to them in the same vein...

I do hope that the administrators of this site get a handle of not only who they appoint to moderate the board, but that the mod's in light of the increasing difficulty of their job here, realize that their actions, although hidden from the board as a whole concerning poster's comments, are visible in who continually gets away with these debating styles...

Now, that will probably get me infracted as well, but you know, stifling the talk of things like this is but one way to ensure that the acts go on unchecked...So, yeah, it is what it is...Over all though, I think the board does a fair job, but for the life of me I can't figure out why it is that certain posters seem to carry on unchecked, yet others post one mild comment, and boom, down comes the hammer...

I just don't care anymore...If they want to suspend me, or ban me eh...I've seen other sites crash and burn over trying to control poster's speech and tilt the playing field, and the risk of that is always there...

Now back to our regularly scheduled topic free for all....:mrgreen:
 
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It would be quite consistent with a narcissistic personality to surround themselves with incompetence. (beginning with Joe Biden.....)

Such pathology runs completely at odds with true leadership....
true leadership modestly seeks out and defers to the best and the brightest.

Rigid ideologues seek compliance, leadership seeks solutions.
 
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Dems call for Ebola flight ban.....:shock:

A growing number of Democrats are pressuring President Obama to ban flights to Ebola-ravaged countries despite repeated warnings from global health leaders that closing borders could accelerate the crisis. The three Democrats — Reps. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.), Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) and Dave Loebsack (D-Iowa) – are among the growing handful in their party who have publicly criticized the Obama administration’s response to Ebola.

Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla) also called for travel bans earlier this week, joining dozens of Republicans who have urged for similar action. In their letter, the lawmakers also told Obama to consider quarantining passengers who may have been exposed to ensure they are not infected.....snip~

Dems call for Ebola flight ban | TheHill
 
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Dems call for Ebola flight ban.....:shock:

A growing number of Democrats are pressuring President Obama to ban flights to Ebola-ravaged countries despite repeated warnings from global health leaders that closing borders could accelerate the crisis. The three Democrats — Reps. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.), Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) and Dave Loebsack (D-Iowa) – are among the growing handful in their party who have publicly criticized the Obama administration’s response to Ebola.

Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla) also called for travel bans earlier this week, joining dozens of Republicans who have urged for similar action. In their letter, the lawmakers also told Obama to consider quarantining passengers who may have been exposed to ensure they are not infected.....snip~

Dems call for Ebola flight ban | TheHill

Simple common sense isn't dead - it's just slow as hell. Congratulations to Democrats for finally figuring it out!
 
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The freak out over czars is ridiculous. Do I think we needed this and couldn't fill it with a guy already in the bureaucracy? No. Do I care they made the temporary position? No. Do I think it should've been someone with medical experience? Yes. But this has been addressed repeatedly in this thread, so I'm going yo double back on a bit of hyper partisan propaganda thst continues to be spewed and isn't called out intelligently

Specifically, this partisan propaganda regurgitation.

And furthermore we have not filled the position of Surgeon General because it's being blocked by the republicans.

As I already pointed out, the SG position is currently filled with an acting individual out there by the administration specifically to be a fitting SG.

The surgeon General grip is as bull**** political theater and partisan propaganda as the direct flight ban is

I don't know if people are honestly ignorant of how government works or if their just purposefully dishonest hyper partisan hacks, but either way as a government employee let me fill you in on how things work with significant position spike the surgeon general

They're never "vacant". We have an acting Surgeon General today, Boris Lushniak. He was named deputy surgeon General in 2010 under Obama's administration and is currently the acting surgeon general...which is precisely one of the main reason the government uses deputee executives, so that there is no lag in the position between official appointments.

Bitching about the surgeon General is like bitching about the directly fought ban...political theater. We have one, in the position due to an appointment by this administration. Either he's competent for the job, in which case all the political posturing is simply using this crisis to bash republicans in a hollow fashion, or he's not competent in which case sure...we need to hurry up and appoint an SG and then we need to see why we had an incompetent deputee appointed.
 
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