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Appeals court reinstates Texas voter ID law

Give me some frickin NUMBERS!

105% voter registration in one county isn't evidence enough?

State election officials are looking into thousands of cases where registered voters may have voted in two states or after their reported death. A report presented Wednesday by Elections Director Kim Strach to the Joint Legislative Elections Oversight Committee said 81 voters have a voter history later than the date of their death. The audit further identified 13,416 deceased voters on voter rolls in Oct. 13. The audit showed 155,692 registered North Carolina voters whose first and last names, dates of birth and last four digits of their Social Security number match those of voters registered in other states, but who most recently registered or voted elsewhere. A total of 35,750 voters with matching first and last names and date of birth were registered in North Carolina and another state, and voted in both states in the 2012 general election. Another 765 voters with an exact match of first and last name, date of birth and last four digits of their Social Security number were registered and voted in the 2012 general election in North Carolina and another state...A total of 28 states participated in the crosscheck, leaving data missing from 22 other states.

Oh My: Audit Finds Evidence of Widespread Voter Fraud in North Carolina - Guy Benson

"And only 27 states pool that data. Texas, California, New York and Florida did not pool their data. So you're talking about probably over a million people that voted twice in this election. This is the first concrete evidence we've ever had of massive voter fraud. We’ve talked about it ad nauseam. This proves it."

http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...orris-theres-proof-over-1-million-people-vot/
 

Gezzzzzzzzzzzus god, man...Zavala County? For ****ing real? A whole 8400 voters in the entire country? Wow! Mafia land, is it? A presidential game changer, huh?

And an article by Dick Morris...you've gotta be kidding me. You believe that guy? Dick Morris wrote the an entire book on how to lie in the world of politics. His so-called predictions in the last presidential race were embarrassing. The Republicans almost frickin died from embarrassment from his nonsensical bull****. Hell, Fox almost had him assassinated for just being stupid, foregoing all of his everyday lies. Why not just quote some better bull**** from Rush Limbaugh?
 

I gotta post this from YOUR ARTICLE...about Dick Morris...dig this. Read it and weap...

Morris said that the large number of North Carolina voters matched with records in other states was proof that over 1 million people voted twice in the 2012 election. While Morris admittedly was extrapolating from the North Carolina data, his conclusion is flawed on several fronts.

The head of North Carolina’s board of elections did not claim that even the closest matches on name, birth date and Social Security numbers was conclusive evidence. She said more investigation was needed. The track record of the Interstate Crosscheck project shows that a tiny fraction of all potential matches represents any kind of voting fraud. In Kansas, out of more than 850,000 votes cast, only 14 names were recommended for prosecution and the Kansas Secretary of State reported no convictions.

In other states, database quirks, human error and the statistics of large numbers have been shown to trim the initial reports of widespread fraud down to the barest sliver of actual cases.

We rate the claim False. <<<<<<<<<<-----------------------------
 
Gezzzzzzzzzzzus god, man...Zavala County? For ****ing real? A whole 8400 voters in the entire country? Wow! Mafia land, is it? A presidential game changer, huh?

And an article by Dick Morris...you've gotta be kidding me. You believe that guy? Dick Morris wrote the an entire book on how to lie in the world of politics. His so-called predictions in the last presidential race were embarrassing. The Republicans almost frickin died from embarrassment from his nonsensical bull****. Hell, Fox almost had him assassinated for just being stupid, foregoing all of his everyday lies. Why not just quote some better bull**** from Rush Limbaugh?

Oh, so you just want to ignore the raw data he was commenting on? Because the data he commented on showed hundreds of thousands of voters voting in multiple states. But as long as you can use foul language and personal attack I guess you are winning? Think not. You wanted numbers. You got numbers. You lost. Deal.
 
oh, so you just want to ignore the raw data he was commenting on? Because the data he commented on showed hundreds of thousands of voters voting in multiple states. But as long as you can use foul language and personal attack i guess you are winning? Think not. You wanted numbers. You got numbers. You lost. Deal.

read my last post...
 
Gezzzzzzzzzzzus god, man...Zavala County? For ****ing real? A whole 8400 voters in the entire country? Wow! Mafia land, is it? A presidential game changer, huh?

And an article by Dick Morris...you've gotta be kidding me. You believe that guy? Dick Morris wrote the an entire book on how to lie in the world of politics. His so-called predictions in the last presidential race were embarrassing. The Republicans almost frickin died from embarrassment from his nonsensical bull****. Hell, Fox almost had him assassinated for just being stupid, foregoing all of his everyday lies. Why not just quote some better bull**** from Rush Limbaugh?

Why does it bother you to have a fair and legit election
 
Why resort to extreme exaggeration? What about the 19 other states that have voter ID laws, including mine?

From the article linked in the OP.

I have no problem with the proper ID, as long as it does not cost the voter anything, and as long as there is reasonable accessibility in getting one, without the voter having to spend a lot of money. Otherwise, it amounts to a poll tax.
 
read my last post...
What? Not all of the suspected are actual fraud? Big deal! I'm not surprised. But using a state that had minimal fraud because they have voter ID laws in place as an example as to why we don't need voter ID laws is hilarious.
 
Except when you're completely proven wrong. Geez, you liberals are blatantly dishonest, aren't you?

LOL.....proven wrong because you and two other wingers on this site say that you don't oppose it? Too hilarious. Eh......I think I'll stick with the decades of history of Republicans fighting against such legislation....thank you. Carry on.
 
I have no problem with the proper ID, as long as it does not cost the voter anything, and as long as there is reasonable accessibility in getting one, without the voter having to spend a lot of money. Otherwise, it amounts to a poll tax.

The cost of an ID is nominal, it's a made up excuse to perpetuate voter fraud. It cannot be anything else. Here in Ohio, a state ID costs around 8 bucks. It is not akin to a poll tax in any way, shape, or form.
 
Why does it bother you to have a fair and legit election

When there evidence that ACTUALLY establishes the facts that fraud exist, then everyone should be concerned. If you read the article posted about Morris' claim, to it's conclusion, you would have seen that the claims were false. Mr. Morris is known to be a frequent source of false claims. Only dead people aren't able to catch him in his dishonest political games.

As far a the Zavala Co case (voters about 8400) - if there is indeed a problem, which an article claims there is, the county is so small that any misconduct could be easily resolved. If that county is crooked, that is NOT an automatic form of evidence that the remaining 253 Texas Counties are guilty.

It's naive to think that we live in a country that has a political system that is free of illegal activities. But what's been pointed out...in a lot of cases...the same conclusion that the Morris Article pointed out. And that's in my following post after the one you replied to. You might want to read it.

What I won't accept is hysteria without evidence. The poster who I replied to offered very lame evidence. In fact, he post an article that he only read what he wanted in order to make his point, but it came back to bite him the ass because he didn't read the outcome of that article. The purpose of the article was actually a fact finding site, which in the end refuted Dick Morris' claims.

The overall claims of vote tampering across the nation isn't a one sided situation. I have no love for either parties. And I want to see justice done wherever and to whomever has attempted or has altered our system in such a way to actually change outcomes. When I see such evidence that either side has committed an act to favor itself in elections. Then I'll say, "fry the bastards".
 
I say in addition to voter ID, I'd like to see absentee ballots noterized, or in some way verified. Then we could knock off the "magic" discovery of just enough votes to tilt elections.
 
Oh great, now watch all the low turnout and voter suppression in Texas when all the dead people decide to stay home on election day!! :soap
 
Retarded?

I see...now you feel the need to resort to a personal attack.

Alrighty then. With regard to your question as to whether or not I'm retarded. Possibly, but not ignorant. How about you?

You think we might need to start minimizing the chance of extraterrestrial invasion despite the lack of evidence there might be one?

Have you ever heard the old saying, "if it's not broke, don't fix it"? So far there's no credible evidence that something is broke as a result of voter sabotage. If there was, then there are technologies and authorizes that exist that can detect methods used and ultimately disclose these phantom voters.

I suggest that somebody better come up with verifiable proof that our voting systems are clearly are unsecured or ineffective in such ways that it allows for certain groups, parties, or individuals to be capable, at will, of controlling the outcome of political contest.

Where is the irrefutable evidence that is clear to all persons, regardless of political lean?

Now, if evidence prevails. And a genuine need for substantially more secure voting methods is clear - then it needs to be done in a way that doesn't discriminate against any group or minority. That means insuring that those who might fall under such categories will be assisted in obtaining whatever is necessary to meet whatever standard is set to make voting more secure.

That will cost taxpayers. Taxpayers must be willing to go to any length to protect all citizens right to vote, regardless of sex, age, race, sexual orientation, religious beliefs, or ethic heritage.

Do you, without reservations, believe everything our government tells us? Do you believe everything that your party is telling all of it's supporters - regardless of the party name? For those who do believe everything governments and parties say...then that might fall under the category of being retarded, in some people's opinion. I prefer to believe such persons fall under the ignorant category.
 
I see...now you feel the need to resort to a personal attack.

Alrighty then. With regard to your question as to whether or not I'm retarded. Possibly, but not ignorant. How about you?

You think we might need to start minimizing the chance of extraterrestrial invasion despite the lack of evidence there might be one?

Have you ever heard the old saying, "if it's not broke, don't fix it"? So far there's no credible evidence that something is broke as a result of voter sabotage. If there was, then there are technologies and authorizes that exist that can detect methods used and ultimately disclose these phantom voters.

I suggest that somebody better come up with verifiable proof that our voting systems are clearly are unsecured or ineffective in such ways that it allows for certain groups, parties, or individuals to be capable, at will, of controlling the outcome of political contest.

Where is the irrefutable evidence that is clear to all persons, regardless of political lean?

Now, if evidence prevails. And a genuine need for substantially more secure voting methods is clear - then it needs to be done in a way that doesn't discriminate against any group or minority. That means insuring that those who might fall under such categories will be assisted in obtaining whatever is necessary to meet whatever standard is set to make voting more secure.

That will cost taxpayers. Taxpayers must be willing to go to any length to protect all citizens right to vote, regardless of sex, age, race, sexual orientation, religious beliefs, or ethic heritage.

Do you, without reservations, believe everything our government tells us? Do you believe everything that your party is telling all of it's supporters - regardless of the party name? For those who do believe everything governments and parties say...then that might fall under the category of being retarded, in some people's opinion. I prefer to believe such persons fall under the ignorant category.

I rest my case.
 
Oh great, now watch all the low turnout and voter suppression in Texas when all the dead people decide to stay home on election day!! :soap


We chain the cemetery gates closed to be sure they can't vote...
 
When there evidence that ACTUALLY establishes the facts that fraud exist, then everyone should be concerned. If you read the article posted about Morris' claim, to it's conclusion, you would have seen that the claims were false. Mr. Morris is known to be a frequent source of false claims. Only dead people aren't able to catch him in his dishonest political games.

As far a the Zavala Co case (voters about 8400) - if there is indeed a problem, which an article claims there is, the county is so small that any misconduct could be easily resolved. If that county is crooked, that is NOT an automatic form of evidence that the remaining 253 Texas Counties are guilty.

It's naive to think that we live in a country that has a political system that is free of illegal activities. But what's been pointed out...in a lot of cases...the same conclusion that the Morris Article pointed out. And that's in my following post after the one you replied to. You might want to read it.

What I won't accept is hysteria without evidence. The poster who I replied to offered very lame evidence. In fact, he post an article that he only read what he wanted in order to make his point, but it came back to bite him the ass because he didn't read the outcome of that article. The purpose of the article was actually a fact finding site, which in the end refuted Dick Morris' claims.

The overall claims of vote tampering across the nation isn't a one sided situation. I have no love for either parties. And I want to see justice done wherever and to whomever has attempted or has altered our system in such a way to actually change outcomes. When I see such evidence that either side has committed an act to favor itself in elections. Then I'll say, "fry the bastards".

I didnt read the article. Voter id laws are just common sense. There isnt one legit reason not to have one. It only makes the election more secure against voter fraud.
 
I say in addition to voter ID, I'd like to see absentee ballots noterized, or in some way verified. Then we could knock off the "magic" discovery of just enough votes to tilt elections.

Agreed
 
It's unconstitutional, which the majority of all the judges who have seen it agree....but now it's too late, so we're going forward with it.

Wrong, the SCOTUS has declared it constitutional
 
The SCOTUS will throw out the Texas Jim crow law--just like they did with the Wisconsin poll tax--Justices Roberts and Kennedy are fed up with the three partisan rightwing hacks .

You do realize that the SCOTUS has already upheld a near identical law in Indiana
 
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