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Appeals court reinstates Texas voter ID law

Wanna see what Republicans truly believe about voting issues? Couple voter-ID laws with a law that allows people to register to vote when they get their driver's licenses and you will watch Republicans run away faster than a kid chasing an ice cream truck. The reality is....Republicans know that when more people vote they lose elections....which is why they try as hard as they possibly can to keep people from voting.

I'm ok with that. In fact, Texas allows you to do just that. That's how I registered.

You may register to vote in-person at your County Election Official anytime before the deadline. You may also register to vote at any DMV office and at other state-run agencies in your area. Contact your County Election Official to learn more about local options for registering to vote in person.

https://www.google.com/webhp?source...=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=texas+voter+registration
 
That's how we do it in Ohio. It's called the "motor voter" law. Our republican governor thinks it's just peachy.

California does the same thing and I think it's a good idea. I can't think of any conservatives who actually want to stop people who are legally entitled to vote from doing so. That's just a myth thrown around by the liberals who want to get illegal aliens on the voter rolls.
 
It's in the OP. What you're going to want to do, is scroll down to the bottom right of the page, then click "first", then, once the page loads, you're going to want to read the OP from start to finish.
I read the article. It says a single judge ruled it unconstitutional. That doesn't jibe with your comment that most judges who have seen the law agree it is unconstitutional.
 
How many liberals in Texas vote more than once?

It might be a bunch of conservatives having to vote more than once...in order to win? Well, nawwwh, that's not how it works. Conservatives do much better at gerrymandering to win election.

Carry on Sailor....

Well, there is this:

Texas Border County Sued for 105 Percent Voter Registration

The ACRU claims the county—which supported the re-election of President Obama by 83%--allegedly holds a 105 percent voter registration rate.

Does that sound like conservative gerrymandering?

Then, there is this:

The number of Texans registered to vote in the state’s five largest counties increased by 2 percent since 2012, a reversal of the decline in total voter registrations that was seen before the last midterm election.

Lone Star Rising: Voter Registration Soars Across Texas

Five biggest counties?

Harris
Dallas
Tarrant
Bexar
Travis

How did they vote in 2012?

Harris, Dallas, Bexar and Travis voted for Obama

Tarrant for Romney.

Texas Election Results 2012 - Map, County Results, Live Updates - POLITICO.com

If Republicans are the ones gerrymandering, why is all the growth in blue counties?

Also, why create a law designed to stop something illegal that you benefit from and no one can prove you've done?
 
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Question Riskey...

What is the difference between spending X amount of resources to run an ad on television aimed at getting people to vote for your favored candidate and spending X amount of resources to physically pick up and bus people to the polling place that are likely to vote for your favored candidate?

Theoretically, I see no difference. Once the costs reach into the millions I would submit that it is more cost effective to spend, say, 10 million dollars on media than 10 million on polling place transportation.

[Do you think money should be the only resource that is limited under the law? Or are you legally going to punish and restrict one type of resource (money) while allowing unlimited usage of other resourecs (like ones time)?

Yes. Volunteers are certainly critical, but money buys elections. It is proven to be effective. As you know, media now practices the disgusting habit of reporting how much money candidates have raised as the key indicator of a candidate's potential. They don't count volunteer hours, or volunteers. They count money. Candidates count money. Elected officials spend much of their time raising money. Money. Money. Money. Money buys votes more than anything else.

Should there be similar limits on the amount of volunteer time that a campaign can utilize or can be done in support of a camapaign?

No, I don't see why there should be.
 
I've found that the REAL reason that the Democrats are so up in arms over the Supreme court's decision on Citizens United is because they no longer have a monopoly on massive amounts of dirty money leveraging elections in their favor.

Unions have been doing what you just described for DECADES

Certainly. And why is it that Republicans aren't up in arms about the amount of dirty corporate money leveraging elections? Wrong is wrong. Buying votes is wrong. Wouldn't you agree? Buying politicians is worse, no? Both are wrong. Do you not oppose both?
 
I'm entirely in favor of that. I think that people ought to be able to register to vote at the DMV, assuming they can prove they are American citizens. That's great. They get a legal ID to show at the polling place and get to register at the same time. Kill two birds with one stone.

Republicans fight tooth and nail to prevent this. The reason why is because they know that if more people are able to register easily, more people will vote, which is not good for Republicans.
 
Republicans fight tooth and nail to prevent this. The reason why is because they know that if more people are able to register easily, more people will vote, which is not good for Republicans.

Well I'm a Republican and I don't. Other Republicans have chimed in and said the same thing. Apparently, you're wrong.
 
California does the same thing and I think it's a good idea. I can't think of any conservatives who actually want to stop people who are legally entitled to vote from doing so. That's just a myth thrown around by the liberals who want to get illegal aliens on the voter rolls.

You obviously haven't been paying attention then....Republicans always fight against motor voter laws...almost without fail
 
You obviously haven't been paying attention then....Republicans always fight against motor voter laws...almost without fail

Except when they don't. :roll:
 
Well I'm a Republican and I don't. Other Republicans have chimed in and said the same thing. Apparently, you're wrong.

LOL....oh....because you and a handful of other wingers on this site don't oppose it....that trumps the history of Republicans opposing motor voter legislation over the last decades....okie dokie.
 
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Pay attention. Republicans actively oppose motor voter laws everytime they come up.

The SCOTUS will throw out the Texas Jim crow law--just like they did with the Wisconsin poll tax--Justices Roberts and Kennedy are fed up with the three partisan rightwing hacks .
 
The SCOTUS will throw out the Texas Jim crow law--just like they did with the Wisconsin poll tax--Justices Roberts and Kennedy are fed up with the three partisan rightwing hacks .

Jim crow?!! Lol, bahahhahahah. Riggghht
 
Jim crow?!! Lol, bahahhahahah. Riggghht

If you ever read the very conservative Appeals Court Justice's dissenting opinion opposing the Wisconsin law, you'll see why the SCOTUS knocked it down. Don't go diving into that shallow water of unconstitutional voter suppression laws--even a 5-4 GOP court is sick of this **** .
 
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Pay attention. Republicans actively oppose motor voter laws everytime they come up.

Except when you're completely proven wrong. Geez, you liberals are blatantly dishonest, aren't you?
 
The SCOTUS will throw out the Texas Jim crow law--just like they did with the Wisconsin poll tax--Justices Roberts and Kennedy are fed up with the three partisan rightwing hacks .

Why resort to extreme exaggeration? What about the 19 other states that have voter ID laws, including mine?

From the article linked in the OP.
Nineteen states have laws requiring voters to show identification at the polls. Courts across the country have knocked down challenges, including at the Supreme Court.
 
Except when you're completely proven wrong. Geez, you liberals are blatantly dishonest, aren't you?

Of course. The truth isnt in them
 
If you ever read the very conservative Appeals Court Justice's dissenting opinion opposing the Wisconsin law, you'll see why the SCOTUS knocked it down. Don't go diving into that shallow water of unconstitutional voter suppression laws--even a 5-4 GOP court is sick of this **** .

Why do you say its unconstitutional? What exactly is unconstitutional about showing proof of citizenship or residency or hell, even of life
 
Well, there is this:



Does that sound like conservative gerrymandering?

Then, there is this:



Five biggest counties?

Harris
Dallas
Tarrant
Bexar
Travis

How did they vote in 2012?

Harris, Dallas, Bexar and Travis voted for Obama

Tarrant for Romney.

Texas Election Results 2012 - Map, County Results, Live Updates - POLITICO.com

If Republicans are the ones gerrymandering, why is all the growth in blue counties?

Also, why create a law designed to stop something illegal that you benefit from and no one can prove you've done?

What a whining crock of caca....

How many Texas votes were illegal votes in the last major election?

Texas Presidential elections results
Year Republican...................... Democratic
2012 57.19% 4,555,799 41.35% 3,294,440
2008 55.48% 4,467,748 43.72% 3,521,164
2004 61.09% 4,526,917 38.30% 2,832,704
2000 59.30% 3,799,639 38.11% 2,433,746
1996 48.80% 2,736,166 43.81% 2,459,683
1992 40.61% 2,496,071 37.11% 2,281,815
1988 56.01% 3,036,829 43.41% 2,352,748
1984 63.58% 3,433,428 36.18% 1,949,276
1980 55.30% 2,510,705 41.51% 1,881,148
1976 47.97% 1,953,300 51.14% 2,082,319
1972 66.20% 2,298,896 33.24% 1,154,291
1968 39.87% 1,227,844 41.14% 1,266,804
1964 36.49% 958,566 63.32% 1,666,185
1960 48.52% 1,121,130 50.52% 1,167,56

Not since 1976 has Texas voted a Democrat Majority for President!

What the hell are you worried about? You can't wade through the propaganda with eating it? You think your life will be better if every swinging **** in Washington is a conservative? What a joke.

It doesn't matter which con, crook, asshole hold office or what party they belong to - cuz none are their by accident 0n either side of the isle. The public is too ignorant to even know who their local mayors are much less any of the Washington Royalty. We have a nation that is so dumbed down that they'll believe anything.
 
What a whining crock of caca....

How many Texas votes were illegal votes in the last major election?

Texas Presidential elections results
Year Republican...................... Democratic
2012 57.19% 4,555,799 41.35% 3,294,440
2008 55.48% 4,467,748 43.72% 3,521,164
2004 61.09% 4,526,917 38.30% 2,832,704
2000 59.30% 3,799,639 38.11% 2,433,746
1996 48.80% 2,736,166 43.81% 2,459,683
1992 40.61% 2,496,071 37.11% 2,281,815
1988 56.01% 3,036,829 43.41% 2,352,748
1984 63.58% 3,433,428 36.18% 1,949,276
1980 55.30% 2,510,705 41.51% 1,881,148
1976 47.97% 1,953,300 51.14% 2,082,319
1972 66.20% 2,298,896 33.24% 1,154,291
1968 39.87% 1,227,844 41.14% 1,266,804
1964 36.49% 958,566 63.32% 1,666,185
1960 48.52% 1,121,130 50.52% 1,167,56

Not since 1976 has Texas voted a Democrat Majority for President!

What the hell are you worried about? You can't wade through the propaganda with eating it? You think your life will be better if every swinging **** in Washington is a conservative? What a joke.

It doesn't matter which con, crook, asshole hold office or what party they belong to - cuz none are their by accident 0n either side of the isle. The public is too ignorant to even know who their local mayors are much less any of the Washington Royalty. We have a nation that is so dumbed down that they'll believe anything.

Like voter fraud doesn't exist/harm anyone?
 
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