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South Carolina Supreme Court Halts Same-Sex Marriage Licenses

Navy Pride said:
Gays created gays my left wing friend but I could care less about that..I just don't want the definition of marriage changed. What part of that do you not understand?
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Alan Keyes is sooooo gay!

Your god creates gays, therefore.....god is gay..

Navy Pride logic
 
Deuce said:
The 4th circuit's decision is binding. There's no reason to grant an injunction because there's no expectation whatsoever that an appeal would be successful. It's done.
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1. Thank you for demonstrating your ignorance. Circuit courts do not create binding precedent for state courts.

2. The state isn't appealing because no judgment has been issued against them. The only thing being injuncted is the illegal act of a local official to grant fraudulent marriage licenses.
 
1750Texan said:
The state supreme court can not trump a federal court order. It is an invalid order.

It would be no different than a state's county judge ruling on a state's constitutional law. The county judge can not over-rule the state's supreme court ruling. The county judge is not over the state supreme court justice.

A state supreme court justice is not over the federal court judge.
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Technically the State Supreme Court has not attempted to "trump" a federal court order as the 4th Circuit hasn't issued an order applicable to South Carolina. The lower court State judges kind of jumped the gun by ordering licenses were to be issued without guidance from the Governor and AG as to whether they would continue to defend that States ban.

What really has to occur is a case must proceed through the Federal District Court and be ruled on. Once that ruling is in place it can be appealed to the 4th Circuit Court who would accept or reject the appeal. If the District Court rules to overturn the ban, the State can appeal to the 4th Circuit. If the 4th Circuit rejects the appeal, the State can appeal to the SCOTUS for an immediate to keep SSCM's from starting. If that appeal is rejected at the SCOTUS like the others, assuming the District Court and Appeals Court rules the ban is unconstitutional, then Circuit Court orders SSCM's to start.


Basically the process is a delaying tactic at this point. What I assume South Carolina is hoping for is for the 6th Circuit Court to rule on the case (IIRC) out of Kentucky and that the 6th Circuit rules to uphold the ban. Then there is a split in the Circuit Court decisions which increases the chances the SCOTUS would (a) issue a new round of stays, and (b) that the SCOTUS will take the case.



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Paleocon said:
1. Thank you for demonstrating your ignorance. Circuit courts do not create binding precedent for state courts.

2. The state isn't appealing because no judgment has been issued against them. The only thing being injuncted is the illegal act of a local official to grant fraudulent marriage licenses.
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They create binding decisions for states.
 
The Immortal said:
Nothing diabolical about it. They just want the state's to weigh in so that once they make their decision they have as little dissension in the lower courts as possible.
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Ahhhh - those State had already "weighed in". Their actions were ruled unconstitutional and those laws have been invalidated.

The Immortal said:
And nobody says they can't be married. They simply would no longer qualify to receive marriage benefits.
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I specifically said "Civil Marriage" (i.e. that recognized under the law), if those Civil Marriages occurred in a State Jurisdiction where the Civil Marriage was legal - then the government can't just "not recognize them". That's what Windsor was about, the Federal government choosing "not to recognize" valid Civil Marriages - that action was ruled unconstitutional.



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The bottom line is individual states have voted over and over again to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman and left wing activist judges in most cases have over ruled the will of the people and that is just wrong no matter what liberals say.
 
beefheart said:
Alan Keyes is sooooo gay!

Your god creates gays, therefore.....god is gay..

Navy Pride logic
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One more time my left wing friend and I want you to concentrate like a laser beam..............Gays create gays.
 
Navy Pride said:
One more time my left wing friend and I want you to concentrate like a laser beam..............Gays create gays.
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So, god is gay, Allan Keyes is gay, Dick Cheney is gay. I am using your logic, do you not understand? If gays create gays, all them are gay.

Your words, your twisted hateful "logic".

Focus on your own stupid words, I know, its hard.
 
Navy Pride said:
One more time my left wing friend and I want you to concentrate like a laser beam..............Gays create gays.
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Perhaps a simple biology course would be helpful.

Heterosexuals are almost always the creators of gay people.
 
beefheart said:
You must have a very weak marriage to feel so threatened, my ultra right wing poster.
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Working on 49 years married by left wing friend. My 17 1966 American Embassy Seoul S. Korea St Patricks day (No I am not Irish it was the day the embassy gave me my appointment...............Try again my left wing friend. You struck out on that one on 3 pitches.
 
Navy Pride said:
One more time my left wing friend and I want you to concentrate like a laser beam..............Gays create gays.
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Really? I thought God created people.

Hum, I guess all gay people look like this
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Navy Pride said:
Working on 49 years married by left wing friend. My 17 1966 American Embassy Seoul S. Korea St Patricks day (No I am not Irish it was the day the embassy gave me my appointment...............Try again my left wing friend. You struck out on that one on 3 pitches.
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You sure sound threatened. You can't hide it, it exudes from your every post.

I am Irish, dual citizen, and an independent voter, usually republican, but I vote for the best candidate, an ultra right wingnut can't understand that, evidently.

Does your wife know about how much you obsess about gay sex?

It is a concern..
 
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Navy Pride said:
The bottom line is individual states have voted over and over again to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman and left wing activist judges in most cases have over ruled the will of the people and that is just wrong no matter what liberals say.
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What about what a conservative says? The court exists to uphold the constitution. We aren't a democracy, it's a conditional republic. And the will of the people is trumped by the constitution.
 
CLAX1911 said:
What about what a conservative says? The court exists to uphold the constitution. We aren't a democracy, it's a conditional republic. And the will of the people is trumped by the constitution.
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Only by activist judges...The shame is the vote of the peoples means nothing.
 
Navy Pride said:
Only by activist judges...The shame is the vote of the peoples means nothing.
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The vote of the people never means anything. Only the constitution.

We aren't a majority ruled country. We are riled by the constitution.

It's not a shame, that isn't how our country works. It would be a shame if we allowed the tyranny of the majority to rule.
 
Top Cat said:
Will you be moving to SC sometime soon? The political climate there seems to suit you far more than WA.
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Yes, where we voted in SSM by popular vote!
 
apdst said:
Can God thank himself for murders and child molesters?


Nice fail!
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Murderers and child molesters act on free will.

A gay person is gay whether they ever act on that or not. They are born that way....


God does not create murderers or child molesters but apparently he does create gays.
 
Lursa said:
Murderers and child molesters act on free will.

A gay person is gay whether they ever act on that or not. They are born that way....


God does not create murderers or child molesters but apparently he does create gays.
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