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‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers[W:702:1041]

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How are they out to screw you? You have your job, just do it. What are you going to do....harass them?

Well, they sure aren't going to be part of my social group.
 
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At that point the union contract will be lost, and the remaining union workers (all the workers, actually) will likely see a reduction in wages and/or benefits.

"Likely"??? So you're basing your entire opinion off something that may or may not happen? Do you have an instance of this actually happening or are you simply reaching here (I already know the answer)?
 
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If an immature, self-centered idea comes from someone's mind, it will be called immature. Sorry, bub.

Spoken like a true union-buster. Congratulations for revealing your true self. If not belonging to a union is so great, why do they care that their fellow employees know it? Guilt, perhaps? Don't bother responding - you've made your position perfectly clear.
 
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Criticism from you and all the other hard line right wing anti-union people on here just proves how right I am.

:lamo hear that Fiddy? YOu're a hard line right wing anti-union goon :lamo

And no, having served during the Vietnam War clearly doesn't make me a 15-20 years old. But thanks for the condescension.

:) You get treated like you act. Don't act like a kid, you won't get told to grow up :)
 
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Then the only reason why you should be against employers doing the same is because you aren't one of them. If you want to be shameless, perhaps the most courtesy you could extend is to be completely honest.
Most of us aren't employers. Most of us are employees. We should be standing up for each other not leeching off each other.
1. We were talking about "scabs", as you called them and

2. I did re-read the OP. You know what I didn't see? Any reference to state employees. :)

no apology necessary ;)

Where were state employees mentioned?
 
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Spoken like a true union-buster. Congratulations for revealing your true self. If not belonging to a union is so great, why do they care that their fellow employees know it?

Gosh. It certainly couldn't be because Unions in this country have a strong history of harrassing, intimidating, attacking, vandalizing the property of, and generally targeting non-union workers....
 
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Ahh, I get it - anybody who thinks unions are a good thing is a 'kid'. Given your positions on every other social issue, I guess I can hardly be surprised at your anti-union, pro management, pro scab position.
 
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Most of us aren't employers. Most of us are employees. We should be standing up for each other not leeching off each other.

I'll stand up for anyone's rights who are abused without caring if they provide jobs to others or need others to provide jobs to them.

Where were state employees mentioned?

Ah, I read Post 172 too fast, and didn't catch that there were two possible meanings, nor ask which you meant.

Unrepresented said:
I'm referencing right to work state employees who don't pay dues yet are covered by union protections due to federal laws in this specific instance
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Fine. Get rid of the federal laws protecting unions. I'm all for it.
 
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"Likely"??? So you're basing your entire opinion off something that may or may not happen? Do you have an instance of this actually happening or are you simply reaching here (I already know the answer)?

The right can't argue that unions make a companies products less competitive with products produced in non-union shops *and* argue that the unions haven't lifted the compensation of workers.
 
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Gosh. It certainly couldn't be because Unions in this country have a strong history of harrassing, intimidating, attacking, vandalizing the property of, and generally targeting non-union workers....

and making life difficult for management, by insisting on things like decent working conditions, a decent wage, 40 hour work weeks, no child labor - all those things that management used scabs to avoid dealing with for years.
 
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Unions should be banned considering they're nothing but an extortion ring and our present labor laws are more than enough to ensure the safety of every worker.
 
Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

Criticism from you and all the other hard line right wing anti-union people on here just proves how right I am. And no, having served during the Vietnam War clearly doesn't make me a 15-20 years old. But thanks for the condescension.

I'm not anti-Union. Nowhere near how the folks here think. At most I would be skeptical of the NEA (and its state affiliates) because of prior encounters in regard to other issues that a lot of times right-wingers view as a left-wing issue.

That being said, your attitude toward non-union workers is appallingly immature.
 
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Ahh, I get it - anybody who thinks unions are a good thing is a 'kid'. Given your positions on every other social issue, I guess I can hardly be surprised at your anti-union, pro management, pro scab position.

Well they may not be a kid per say.

But dependant on childish reasoning to make their case for continued support of the Unions ? Yea
 
Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

I'm not anti-Union. Nowhere near how the folks here think. At most I would be skeptical of the NEA (and its state affiliates) because of prior encounters in regard to other issues that a lot of times right-wingers view as a left-wing issue.

That being said, your attitude toward non-union workers is appallingly immature.

Do you know what costs union workers their jobs? Non-union workers who will work for less money in unsafe working conditions, in order to fuel those nice big bonuses management awards to itself on a regular basis.
 
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For those that support this "scab list" being made public....why? What is the use of such a public list if not to cause harassment? Putting flyers of the list up in the neighborhood the person lives in? What is the point in this list? If harassment is not the goal then why not just send a representative to that person to talk privately? It sure would cost less.

As for those that say that such "scabs" are freeloading. :roll: It is your choice to join a union and pay the dues or not. It is also the union leaders choice to continue to ask for the things that they do eve knowing that those that don't pay union dues will benefit. Saying that these people are freeloaders is like saying that those that didn't vote but supported Obama are freeloaders because Obama happened to win due to everyone else that voted for Obama. Its silly and idiotic.
 
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Well they may not be a kid per say.

But dependant on childish reasoning to make their case for continued support of the Unions ? Yea

And another member of the Far Right checks in with his opinion. Can you guys just get together and select one spokesman? You are all parroting the same junk from the same anti-union sources.
 
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and making life difficult for management, by insisting on things like decent working conditions, a decent wage, 40 hour work weeks, no child labor - all those things that management used scabs to avoid dealing with for years.

:) I am really enjoying your behavior in this thread juxtaposed with your sig. :lol: :D
 
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Again, I suspect feigned ignorance for this issue has surely been discussed a gazillion times... but for those that truly may not be able to figure it out on their own, if enough non-paying workers take union jobs then the union will lack the funds to sustain itself and die (or be voted into dissolution). At that point the union contract will be lost, and the remaining union workers (all the workers, actually) will likely see a reduction in wages and/or benefits.

It's just like paying income taxes... if a few people decide to just quit paying, even though they can afford to, and subsequently a sufficient number of others follow suit then government fails. Now while the conservatives probably like that scenario, sensible people know that things society depends on will fail too -- police, certain healthcare services, bridge/road repair, airline traffic control, banking controls, military, etc -- chaos.

Oh, brother......I've had much better success and paid better in non union jobs.
I just didn't like seeing lazy asses keep their jobs because of union protectIon.
 
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Most of us aren't employers. Most of us are employees. We should be standing up for each other not leeching off each other.

I would agree, except you have this incredible self-centered viewpoint toward your fellow-workers. Not everyone is going to be part of the Union club, Jack. That doesnt give you the need to be a jerk and encourage threatening behavior, because they chose not to join a voluntary organization.
 
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:lol: so suddenly even though the topic was workers that come into a factory or workplace during a strike [...]
I suggest you re-read the OP, because that is not the topic.

Or you can continue to be wrong
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Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

And another member of the Far Right checks in with his opinion. Can you guys just get together and select one spokesman? You are all parroting the same junk from the same anti-union sources.


I'm not " anti union " I'm pro employment and anti corruption.

So, yea I guess thats anti union.
 
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I would agree, except you have this incredible self-centered viewpoint toward your fellow-workers. Not everyone is going to be part of the Union club, Jack. That doesnt give you the need to be a jerk and encourage threatening behavior, because they chose not to join a voluntary organization.

No union has encouraged threatening behavior. Nor has any poster
 
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:) I am really enjoying your behavior in this thread juxtaposed with your sig. :lol: :D

Well, my one goal in life is to provide amusement for the Far Right. Glad I am succeeding.
 
Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

And another member of the Far Right checks in with his opinion. Can you guys just get together and select one spokesman? You are all parroting the same junk from the same anti-union sources.

Just trolling now?
 
Re: ‘Pressure tactics’: Unions publishing names of nonunion workers

I suggest you re-read the OP, because that is not the topic.

We were discussing the much ballyhoo'd "scabs". :) Not all posts relate directly rather than indirectly to an OP. :)
 
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