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Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial[W:292]

Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

I shot an unarmed black 18 year old

he and his partner jumped me in alley and one tried to choke me and the other hit me in the face, breaking my nose before I shot one of them. Under the law of the state, I had an absolute right to use deadly force to prevent a violent criminal assault upon my person. So tell me again why my life should have been over.

Technically, they were armed with their fists. LOL.

But seriously, I think you get the point I made. :)
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Technically, they were armed with their fists. LOL.

But seriously, I think you get the point I made. :)

if you said if YOU SHOOT AN UNARMED innocent person for illegal reasons-(his color doesn't matter) then yes your point would be right

if you are in a gun fight and you miss your assailant and kill an innocent, you may well be sued but you aren't going to jail for life
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

If the kid who was killed was white, there would have been no national press coverage like there has been.

Nobody would care.
Thats the biggest crock of BS, I've heard in a very long time, Natalie Hollaway, Nicole Brown Simpson, Chandra Levy, Lacy Peterson..

You Conservatives are a bunch of clowns, who are as dumb as the day is long, but go ahead and keep living in your fantasy land...
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

I added an important detail about the recent cases in the news.
Don't change my quotes. Very low brow. Trayvon was "unarmed" and got exactly what he deserved and was asking for.
 
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If that black person was unarmed, your life SHOULD be over.
So when a 250lbs black man is beating a 100lb woman. She should just take the beating?
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Oh he's gonna do the time. :lol:
I have a feeling you would be fine with that, no matter the circumstances of someone shooting to defend themselves.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Is it me or do a lot of righties always try to justify killing unarmed black kids by just saying Chicago?
Yea thats one of the many reasons i hate Conservatives, they always gotta break out and play the Chicago card, to justify an old angry white guy shooting an unarmed black kid, and the word thug, is their dog whistle for Nigger..
They also conveniently forget about the large amounts of Rednecks killing off each other in the trigger happy south..
 
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Yea thats one of the many reasons i hate Conservatives, they always gotta break out and play the Chicago card, to justify an old angry white guy shooting an unarmed black kid, and the word thug, is their dog whistle for Nigger..
They also conveniently forget about the large amounts of Rednecks killing off each other in the trigger happy south..

Anger, fear, aggression...easily they flow through you, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down that dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Don't change my quotes. Very low brow. Trayvon was "unarmed" and got exactly what he deserved and was asking for.

I told you I changed it and bolded it so there wasn't any question what I changed. if that's off limits, I was unaware.

Regarding Trayvon, I disagree, but that's not the point. The recent cases in the news ALL involved unarmed blacks.

And besides, there was zero basis and zero evidence for your point, which was this: "Shoot a black person. Tell me how innocent you will be treated, unless you prove your innocence in court. Then you are still guilty in the worlds court of opinion anyway and your life is over."

It was refuted on this thread when TurtleDude reported shooting and (I think) killing a black 18 yo who attacked him. Not a word of protest from anyone, and he hasn't reported his life being over....
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

I told you I changed it and bolded it so there wasn't any question what I changed. if that's off limits, I was unaware.

Regarding Trayvon, I disagree, but that's not the point. The recent cases in the news ALL involved unarmed blacks.

And besides, there was zero basis and zero evidence for your point, which was this: "Shoot a black person. Tell me how innocent you will be treated, unless you prove your innocence in court. Then you are still guilty in the worlds court of opinion anyway and your life is over."

It was refuted on this thread when TurtleDude reported shooting and (I think) killing a black 18 yo who attacked him. Not a word of protest from anyone, and he hasn't reported his life being over....
Yea, its not acceptable to do. And you don't see what happens with a black person is shot in this country by a white? They are still rioting in Ferguson.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

So when a 250lbs black man is beating a 100lb woman. She should just take the beating?

No need to bring NFL players into this.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

1) Yea, its not acceptable to do. 2) And you don't see what happens with a black person is shot in this country by a white? 3)They are still rioting in Ferguson.

1) Noted, and my apologies.
2) That's one incident of I'm guessing hundreds of white on black shootings/killings per year.
3) And they're not rioting only over the shooting. That was just the spark, which you might know if you listened to anyone involved in the protests. Relations with the black community and the police were terrible before the shooting, they handled it incredibly poorly, which just poured gasoline and then lit the match on an already very strained relationship.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

You were an eye witness?

No, I live nearby and it's on the news all the time.

They fled only a few hundred feet and for less than two minutes, according to an affidavit.

Prosecutors dispute that friends of Jordan Davis fled after shooting | members.jacksonville.com

Besides, according to all the Dunn apologists, aren't they saying that that's how they got rid of the "mystery weapon?" Now either they left or they didn't. Y'all need to make up your minds.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

So when a 250lbs black man is beating a 100lb woman. She should just take the beating?

The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

I have a feeling you would be fine with that, no matter the circumstances of someone shooting to defend themselves.

Are you going to actually debate the merit of what people are actually stating. Or are you going to continue with the useless straw man arguments?
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Are you going to actually debate the merit of what people are actually stating. Or are you going to continue with the useless straw man arguments?

Just an observation. No strawman.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Just an observation. No strawman.

It was a logical observation in fantasy land as it had nothing to do with the point.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

It was a logical observation in fantasy land as it had nothing to do with the point.

Has everything to do with the point. Shoot a black person as a white person your odds of claiming SD and prevailing are zero.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

That comment is so dense that it really deserves no reply.

It's true, and you already did.

Haven't seen any riots for white kids being killed.

It is just a fact of today's life, like it or not.

Never said that I relish the idea, so cool your jets - it's the way that it is.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Has everything to do with the point. Shoot a black person as a white person your odds of claiming SD and prevailing are zero.

Well yeah - when the black person has no weapon. :lol:

Unless he claimed self-defense against that pesky rap music.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

Has everything to do with the point. Shoot a black person as a white person your odds of claiming SD and prevailing are zero.

Absolute nonsense. Your entire premise is moronic. Zimmerman should be ample proof that your statement is nonsense.
 
Re: Michael Dunn found guilty of 1st-degree murder in loud-music trial

So when a 250lbs black man is beating a 100lb woman. She should just take the beating?

Nice strawman. This wasn't a 250 lb black man beating a 100 lb woman. This was a man who shot through the back of a car that was attempting to leave, thus murdering a black man. Your hero is a murderer.
 
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