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Ferguson Demands High Fees To Turn Over City Files

Removable Mind said:
The link below will give you an idea about the document retrieval business.

If people think that the Ferguson case document fees are crazy. Try working at a Medical Malpractice Law Firm, which will pay into the tens of thousands for medical records and other types of information necessary to support their cases.

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Those rates don't even come close to the $135/hr Ferguson is charging
 
sangha said:
Removable Mind said:
The link below will give you an idea about the document retrieval business.

If people think that the Ferguson case document fees are crazy. Try working at a Medical Malpractice Law Firm, which will pay into the tens of thousands for medical records and other types of information necessary to support their cases.

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Those rates don't even come close to the $135/hr Ferguson is charging
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They're also not a public entity supported by tax dollars and working as a public service. Private vs public comparisons just aren't applicable here.
 
sangha said:
Those rates don't even come close to the $135/hr Ferguson is charging
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I hear ya, Sangha. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the charges. I'm just pointing out that document retrieval can be expensive, especially when using a professional service. And the rates that I posted aren't necessarily typical. Some can be more. Some can be less. It all depends on the type of information sought.

So Ferguson has resorted to legal ways to deter people from getting information that might be used against the city. We live in a nation that loves and supports governments that like to extort. What else is new?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Thats literally what the article states. It reads on a case to case basis.
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Oh Gawd. :doh
They are still reasonable costs.


TheDemSocialist said:
Again. "a practice that information technology experts call unnecessary. "


Sooo what experts think is dumb!
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:doh
Biased article is biased. What they think is irrelevant. There was no reason to provided said information except to provided a biased spin.
IT experts are not management experts, nor do they run the show in Ferguson. You know why? Because they are IT experts.
What they think has no bearing on this because their knowledge only applies to one aspect (the gathering of) and not to the amount of people involved the department needs to employ to gather or the costs associated with it.
So by default, their opinion is irrelevant as it is ignorant.


TheDemSocialist said:
No. For everything that is accounted with the Sunshine Law.
"The Sunshine Law applies to all records, regardless of what form they are kept in, and to all meetings, regardless of the manner in which they are held.
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Ah yes!
We are not discussing the DNR, and as such what they charge is irrelevant.


TheDemSocialist said:
When responding to a request for copies of its records, the Sunshine Law limits how much a public body can charge for copying and research costs."

Missouri Sunshine law top ten things to know

Section 610-026 Fees for copying public records, limita
" Fees for copying public records, except those records restricted under section 32.091, shall not exceed ten cents per page for a paper copy not larger than nine by fourteen inches, with the hourly fee for duplicating time not to exceed the average hourly rate of pay for clerical staff of the public governmental body. Research time required for fulfilling records requests may be charged at the actual cost of research time.

Fees for providing access to public records maintained on computer facilities, recording tapes or disks, videotapes or films, pictures, maps, slides, graphics, illustrations or similar audio or visual items or devices, and for paper copies larger than nine by fourteen inches shall include only the cost of copies, staff time, which shall not exceed the average hourly rate of pay for staff of the public governmental body "
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C600-699/6100000026.HTM
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:doh
You don't seem to understand what you are quoting.
The enlarged clearly allows for differences in costs.
And if they are employing an outside firm to do the research, as in one case, those additional costs would be reasonable.


So back to your absurdly illogical statement of; "The city of Ferguson is obviously is hiding something... "
You haven't shown any such thing.

Common sense suggests that since the cost can be afforded and even paid to obtain said info, that the cost are not associated with any attempt to hide a damn thing.
So you can laugh your head off with that icon, as you are only laughing at your lame attempt and failure to show they were hiding anything.




Yes really. Duh!
The information can be obtained if the price is paid. That is not hiding a damn thing.
Had it been priced outside of anyone's reach, then you might have had a point. But since it isn't, your insinuation is illogical and absurd.
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
e-mail accounts following the shooting, police reports, personnel files, text messages.
And because they wanted to see what the city government and officials were doing following the shooting. Doing some reporting, ya know.



No.
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No? There were more than a few questions there my friend!
 
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