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Tony Stewart Won’t Face Criminal Charges in Death of Kevin Ward Jr.

Right, because all DAs are moral pillars of the community. :rolleyes: I am merely asking for the science behind the statement. Like I said, I was under the impression no such test existed. It's been discussed all over the media. Is that really an unreasonable request? It certainly isn't "splitting hairs". Let alone hares.

In many states an officer can ask for a blood or urine test if there is reasonable suspicion. They also have saliva/hair tests on scene, but they aren't as reliable. They measure mg/l in the blood or urine, the more concentrated the more marijuana ingested or more recently.

Cannabis drug testing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
I'd be interested to know if such a release holds harmless other participants who signed a release. I would think the release is to hold harmless the track. I don't know how races operate. That said, I do believe that someone is going to get sued.

I don't see how.

1. he put himself into danger by getting out of his car.
2. He was impaired and not thinking properly of his actions. (no sane person gets out of his car and walks into the middle of a race track).

i don't see how stewart or anyone else is responsible for his death. sure the family could try to sue but the case would be dismissed based on lack of merit.
his death was a result of his own actions and no one else's.

this is why i don't believe in drug use.

as a guy that use to be a drug dealer told our group one day.
drugs only get you in 3 situations.

1. shot at
2. in prison
3. dead.
 
Okay. Tell that to the judge if you're charged and fail the test.
I would. And I would be correct. Why are you arguing such a silly point? Wouldn't you want an honest, fair, accurate test? Or are you one of these control freaks that thinks weed smokers should be locked up?
Legal standards and real world actualities do not necessarily match up. You two will never agree because you two aren't even arguing the same concept.
 
I'd be interested to know if such a release holds harmless other participants who signed a release. I would think the release is to hold harmless the track. I don't know how races operate. That said, I do believe that someone is going to get sued.

I am positive someone will get sued. Its the American way.
 
I don't see how.

1. he put himself into danger by getting out of his car.
2. He was impaired and not thinking properly of his actions. (no sane person gets out of his car and walks into the middle of a race track).

i don't see how stewart or anyone else is responsible for his death. sure the family could try to sue but the case would be dismissed based on lack of merit.
his death was a result of his own actions and no one else's.

this is why i don't believe in drug use.

as a guy that use to be a drug dealer told our group one day.
drugs only get you in 3 situations.

1. shot at
2. in prison
3. dead.
He put himself in danger by just being at a track. People are killed every year spectating, crewing and driving. Its part of the game.
 
When dumb asses attack a post of mine and call me "dude" or "bro" I point out their idiocy for not noticing the little pink thing under my user name. I don't think you're a dumb ass which is why I wasn't snarky to you.

I thought it was guys who had a little pink thing.... Oh, wait... you were talking about the gender icon...

Never mind then.
 
One good thing came out of this tragedy. Nascar has implemented a new rule. No driver is permitted to exit his car after a crash until the emergency response crews arrive...unless the car is on fire. And no driver exiting his car after a crash is allowed to walk back into traffic.

That's a fine rule and all, but the only reason the man was killed, is because those cars were open wheel (no fenders). The cars driven in NASCAR have fenders, so an incident like the one that killed the guy is highly unlikely.
 
I am positive someone will get sued. Its the American way.

If Ward's family sues....Stewart should counter sue....Wards own anger driven irresponsible behavior caused great emotional harm and probably financial harmed Stewart.

I am being facetious, but it makes as much sense as Wards family suing Stewart.

It is like I see a train coming, go around the downed crossing gates...and my family sues the train company because the train killed me.
 
That's a fine rule and all, but the only reason the man was killed, is because those cars were open wheel (no fenders). The cars driven in NASCAR have fenders, so an incident like the one that killed the guy is highly unlikely.

Probably not as easily, however it could still happen.
 
If Ward's family sues....Stewart should counter sue....Wards own anger driven irresponsible behavior caused great emotional harm and probably financial harmed Stewart.

I am being facetious, but it makes as much sense as Wards family suing Stewart.

It is like I see a train coming, go around the downed crossing gates...and my family sues the train company because the train killed me.

Tony Stewart would probably settle and quick. Too much to lose in the long run to drag out a suit.
 
Tony Stewart would probably settle and quick. Too much to lose in the long run to drag out a suit.

I would hope his family would have the class to recognize that ward was responsible for his own death. 100 percent.
 
If Ward's family sues....Stewart should counter sue....Wards own anger driven irresponsible behavior caused great emotional harm and probably financial harmed Stewart.

I am being facetious, but it makes as much sense as Wards family suing Stewart.

It is like I see a train coming, go around the downed crossing gates...and my family sues the train company because the train killed me.

I think the Ward family needs to find another way to handle their grief....perhaps counseling
 
To lay rest to some of the claims regarding testing and intoxication:

Drug Test Detection Times for Marijuana

How long do drug tests detect marijuana? There is no simple answer to this question. Detection time depends strongly on the kind and sensitivity of the test employed; the frequency, dosage, and last time of use; the individual subject's genetic makeup, the state of one's metabolism, digestive and excretory systems; and other random, unknown factors.

The basic drug test types and their approximate detection times are shown in the table below.

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The most popular kind of drug test is the urine test, which can detect marijuana for days or weeks after use. Note that urine tests do not detect the psychoactive component in marijuana, THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol), and therefore in no way measure impairment; rather, they detect the non-psychoactive marijuana metabolite THC-COOH, which can linger in the body for days and weeks with no impairing effects.

Marijuana Drug Test Detection Times | California NORML

A typical number for a marijuana DUI conviction in some states is 5ng/ml (source) (I presume this is a blood test).
 
To lay rest to some of the claims regarding testing and intoxication:



A typical number for a marijuana DUI conviction in some states is 5ng/ml (source) (I presume this is a blood test).

I also know via work that certain levels of marijuana and THC are acceptable depending on the employer. Some employers accept a range depending on the job, while others don't allow any evidence of it in jobs where there is machinery or requires handling a lot of money.
 
New York is a comparative negligence state, they will decide the negligence factor of both parties before a civil suit. If a judge views Ward as having been negligent by having gotten out of the car and by having marijuana in his system it will greatly impact a settlement amount and he could decide to not allow a civil suit. It might be hard for the Ward family to sue Stewart at all.

Comparative Negligence
 
I'd be interested to know if such a release holds harmless other participants who signed a release. I would think the release is to hold harmless the track. I don't know how races operate. That said, I do believe that someone is going to get sued.

I dont think that would matter since it would have been a criminal charge. And you're not protected from crimes.

However if there is a civil suit filed by the family, that might make a difference. Dont know.
 
I would hope his family would have the class to recognize that ward was responsible for his own death. 100 percent.

Not usually. Esp. not when big $$$ might be in the offering...money for 'nothing' no less. (Meaning $$ they certainly didnt earn).
 
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