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US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria[W:354]

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Peter Grimm said:
We already have boots on the ground. Just not American boots.
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There are already Americans American forces there.

The danger is that Obama will want to hold back troops thereby, as in the past, increasing US casualties. For some reason known only to him, perhaps in the interest of fairness, Obama wants to keep the battle close and not take advantage of America's superior military.
 
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Peter Grimm said:
You think we're there for human rights?

Of course, you're right. That's why we intervened in Rwanda. Oh wait..... No, but that's why we jumped right in to Darfur. No, darn. Wait..... Hey we're so concerned about beheadings, that's why we're sending troops to Mexico to fight the drug cartels..... ahh dammit. We aren't.

Yeah, maybe it's about the oil a little bit. Just maybe.
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You should have waited a little longer.
 
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US Conservative said:
Uhm, not as combat troops, they are there for training, support, defense, etc.
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You said it, I didn't. Special forces aren't trained for training. They're trained to fight and target the enemy, and before being deployed, they're going quiet for 96 hours...
 
stonewall50 said:
How? Are you arguing our inaction is genocide? How is it our responsibility to stop it? Additionally...how do you stop it?
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It's the world's responsibility to stop it but others have been slow to join in the fight. It's still the US who does the heavy lifting while other countries watch from the sideline and criticize.
 
ecofarm said:
Helping to install a pro-democracy and human rights government. That's different than what you're proposing. It worked in Japan and it's working in Somalia, Iraq and other countries.
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Japan? Japan does not belong in that list. Japan is Culturally different, it required a complete devastation of the nation, and the dropping of nuclear weapons. That isn't going to happen in the Middle East. We literally went NUCLEAR on Japan. We are, by comparison, might as well be using rubber bands and tape balls.

And Iraq? How long will it last? Somalia? Yea. That is a real stable nation. I'm not saying that a human rights government is impossible. Or democracy? That isn't either. But the people have to want it. And they have to have the power to maintain it.

If we get involved in that equation...ANY failure will be blamed on us. And they are destined to fail. At least until they stop with the sharia law and so on.
 
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US Conservative said:
Simply untrue, in fact its one of their central missions, has been for decades.

And besides, Obama himself has said that they aren't there for combat.
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Is this the same person who promised to end the war in Iraq? How did that go without a residual force? The man is so arrogant that he ignores his military advisors and thinks wars are a video game...
 
Grant said:
It's the world's responsibility to stop it but others have been slow to join in the fight. It's still the US who does the heavy lifting while other countries watch from the sideline and criticize.
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Then let the world take the risks. We have been for about 80 years.
 
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US Conservative said:
Airstrikes have started, lets see if anything substantive comes of it. Knowing Obama this was all show.
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I agree it's for show, but hey, some jihadists are going to die. That's always a good thing.
 
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pbrauer said:
It was for show, showing he means business.
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If Obama meant business, he would have zapped these clowns months ago.
 
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Perotista said:
I am not sure whether Syria signed a peace agree with Israel or not. But Assad and Syria has ceased all aggression towards them. You can be sure if Assad goes, so too does either the peace and you can beat whatever replaces Assad the odds are they will be very anti-Israel and perhaps gear up for another war.

It is like I said many times, I do not think anyone in Washington has every thought what a post Assad Syria will be like. It is like everyone in Washington has tunnel vision and can only see Assad, nothing else.
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Syria has been subsidizing Hamas and Hezbollah for years.
 
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AlabamaPaul said:
You said it, I didn't. Special forces aren't trained for training. They're trained to fight and target the enemy, and before being deployed, they're going quiet for 96 hours...
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Greetings, AP. :2wave:

So good to see you! - has your Summer been a good one?

I don't understand the phrase "going quiet for 96 hours."
 
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polgara said:
Greetings, AP. :2wave:

So good to see you! - has your Summer been a good one?

I don't understand the phrase "going quiet for 96 hours."
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Good evening pg, and yes, it has. When forces are deployed there is a time period when there is no contact with anyone outside of their chain of command while they are briefed and prepare to depart on the mission...
 
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apdst said:
If Obama meant business, he would have zapped these clowns months ago.
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one would think columns in open desert flying black flags would have been targeted..
 
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AlabamaPaul said:
Good evening pg, and yes, it has. When forces are deployed there is a time period when there is no contact with anyone outside of their chain of command while they are briefed and prepare to depart on the mission...
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Thanks, AP. I had a hunch that it might be a time to look inward...
 
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Perotista said:
Hmm, perhaps we are no better than all those old colonial rulers. We decide which tyrants must and the form of government those countries will have once the tyrants are disposed of. Instead of colonialism, we call it nation building. Look at what that has got us. A Libya which is much worst off than under Khadafi, chaos and turmoil reign. Different tribes are fight each other and terrorist have moved back into Libya to use it as training grounds again.

Instead of letting the Afghani go back to tribal rule with each tribe ruling their own little corner of Afghanistan along with the shifting alliances, we alienated over half the tribes of the Northern Alliance. All 14 tribes were once our allies, now half of them would like nothing better than to kill us. Mainly because we forced our brand of government on them instead of letting them choose their own. I do not think I have to say a thing about Iraq.
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thanks for clarity. how about this?
are we not nation building in Syria picking sides -whom to train arm who to not?
Bad enough we tried very hard very long to do "regime change" with the 'Assad must go' meme.

All l I can think of now is degrade/desroy ISIL,and hope the ground forces - whomever they are - can do the job.
Counter-terrorism. Not counter insurgency.
 
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