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US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria[W:354]

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The Washington Post is reporting that our Navy used up 47 Tomahawk missles last night during the strike.

Tomahawk missiles the latest U.S. weapon used against Islamic State - The Washington Post

That's 47% of the budgeted supply for 2015. (100 in total due to major military cuts and none budgeted for more)

US Navy Budget Takes Bite Out of Aircraft, Weapons | Defense News | defensenews.com

Guess our inventory is around 4000 and that would be enough to supply us for about ten weeks worth at the current rate.
Navy Seeks Next Generation Tomahawk | DoD Buzz

Each one of these missiles costs over a million to produce. The cost aside, how long does it take to produce one because we could be totally depleted of them in 10 weeks? And if we are short in supply of Tomahawks, how many other weapons got severely slashed in the budget that are needed to maintain this "air war"?

As I understand it, Tomahawks are long range guided missiles typically used in the initial stages of an assault to minimize risk to pilots on some targets. We probably wont use them on an extended basis. And, they are pricey mojo's.
 
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It seems Assad and Syria knew about the air strikes.

Assad backs efforts to fight terrorism

As for no one being home, I think it was planned that way. Today we want to fight a war in which no one dies, the computer game mentality.

Hate to say it but this is one reason why arabs should be the tip of the spear against ISIS-they play by arab rules which mean they fight to kill the enemy. We should be paying for the fuel and handing over all our "dumb" bomb inventory over to the arabs to use.
 
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Obama strikes ISIS in Syria and conservatives think it's about their Benghazi talking point. Amazing. Next they'll call for deregulation and tort reform as a way to defeat ISIS.

He didn't bring up Benghazi, another poster did. Please read.
 
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Why are all the countries shown above ME countries? Where are France, England, Germany, and other Western countries, or even the UN flags? All the countries listed are those that few people would have considered "friendly" to the US a few months ago. Some of those countries are known to be funding the terrorists, or having training camps for them! What is going on here, and how did we persuade them to bomb their own "brethren?" Is it a matter of "assist us now, or go it alone later?" It would be the same as us bombing Sweden or Poland because Qatar was upset with them, wouldn't it? Weird....


Yep the Saud, Qatar, and the UAE have been funding most Sunni Terrorists. They will do whatever they can to Subjugate, kill and enslave over the Shia and other Arabs. You have to remember.....they Think they are special.

France was Bombing ISIS in Iraq. Some of the others were sending humanitarian Aid for the Christians and Some Weapons and Aid to the Kurds.
 
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Oh I served and shed blood for this Country. Which you were already given a clue. Yet couldn't figure it out. So save all the BS about what you think you know about Combat then.

Oh and I don't know need to make anything up about where.....I was. I'm the one that came out missing pieces.

 
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And this is not the first time. The U.S. once invaded the sovereign nation of Mexico with a military force led by Gen. Pershing, just because Pancho Villa and his men had crossed the border and raided a little town on the U.S. side. That was nothing but imperialist aggression by this horrible country, and yet one more reason we should all be ashamed of it. If the government of Mexico wanted to let Mr. Villa and his friends invade the U.S. and commit crimes there, that was its sovereign decision, and we had no business trying to impose our will on Mexico.

Greetings, matchlight. :2wave:

Did I detect a bit of sarcasm in your post, or didn't I understand your reasoning? :doh:
 
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As I understand it, Tomahawks are long range guided missiles typically used in the initial stages of an assault to minimize risk to pilots on some targets. We probably wont use them on an extended basis. And, they are pricey mojo's.

Yeah use to be 500k a pop. But don't worry whatever BO blows off he has to restock due to the arms treaties. Just like he did after Libya and using all those Tomahawks. But kept that on the downlow with his attempts at budgeting.
 
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As I understand it, Tomahawks are long range guided missiles typically used in the initial stages of an assault to minimize risk to pilots on some targets. We probably wont use them on an extended basis. And, they are pricey mojo's.

I think it would be fair to state the 100 budgeted for 2015 will be used up before 2015 even arrives. And when you consider all air weapons took a major cut in funding, how many other weapons will be the same?
 
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I appreciate your comments and your view is not wrong - the majority of Americans and for that matter in other western countries as well do not want to see this escalate into another massive ground war in the region. That said, the politics is on both sides - it's clear, at least to me, that Obama's public pronouncements, repeatedly, about "no combat boots on the ground" are clearly to assuage the fears expressed above. He can't possibly be doing it for other than political reasons. There is no tactical advantage, from a strategic and military point of view, in announcing to the world what you will not do.

I think a lot of conservatives strongly support defense and military issues and institutions - not to say liberals don't, but conservatives more readily relate in that regard. As such, in my view, they are rightly concerned with pronouncements from the President that only serve political ends.

Well stated, I agree.
 
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It's hard to see what these small Gulf states could have contributed other than the use of airbases there. And there are a couple bases in the outback of Jordan that could have been useful, because they are closer to the areas attacked, for launching search and rescue missions or drone strikes.

But I keep wondering, why not Cyprus? I would think the British are right with us on all this, and they have at least one large, well-equipped airbase there. Because Cyprus is so close to the target areas, and because a good part of a flight from there would be over the ocean, where there is no threat of anti-aircraft fire, it seems very well suited as a base, especially for the fighter-bombers involved. When strikes are launched from a long range, each aircraft can carry less weight in weapons and needs other aircraft to refuel it.

Could it be that Turkey has some influence over the British bases on Cyprus, and President Pinprick is worried about offending his Islamist pals in the Turkish government?
 
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And screw the consequences? SOFA agreements are just paperwork and there are over 80 of them ongoing today. It was a weak excuse for Obama in order to place the blame elsewhere when he left Iraq exposed.

SOFA's are indeed routine. Obama needed an out in Iraq, so he could have a line in the campaign. Nothing more.
 
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At first glance I thought you wrote "vacationing" and were referring to Bush's penchant to fiddle while Rome burns.

we are not talking about Obama and his golf games and his "let em eat cake" wife..
 
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What is going to happen to Israel as a result of all this? I'm fairly certain they are watching this very closely. Damascus in Syria is one of the world's oldest cities, and despite being a relatively small country, Syria has become very important to Obama for some reason, despite the fact that other ME countries are training and arming ISIS, and doing so openly, and bragging about it? Is all this a prelude to the hoped-for destruction of Israel by other ME countries? Just musing...

Because Obama is working with Arabs, Israel is going to keep quiet as a church mouse unless its directly attacked again. They have struck syria in the recent past though.
 
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But kept that on the downlow with his attempts at budgeting.

You might want to be careful about using that colloquialism in connection with Mr. Obama.
 
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Cheap political points? By pulling the troops from a stable Iraq thousands more lives will be lost, billions more spent, and you are concerned about Barrack Obama getting some criticism for this decision??

This is the absolute truth.
 
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That's the point, and why the troops should have stayed!

It had calmed down by the time the troops were pulled out and it was all containable. The military and the CIA originally wanted 70,000 troops to remain but this was continually whittled down by Obama until they were all removed. Now no one will mention the 'stable' word, or what an 'achievement' Iraq is.

Who said Iraq was a "thriving democracy"? Lose the hyperbole or use quotes. It was a democracy but, like most burgeoning democracies, need time and custom and rule of law to take hold.

That's when leadership is required so that the situation can be explained to the less politically aware. Megyn Kelly just shared a 2007 George Bush Iraq speech, and it’s going VIRAL |

Nailed it.
 
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SOFA's are indeed routine. Obama needed an out in Iraq, so he could have a line in the campaign. Nothing more.

See, I told you your sig line was an indication of a guilty conscience. Your mindreading about Obama's motives is a direct line into how conservatives do politics.
 
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Because Obama is working with Arabs, Israel is going to keep quiet as a church mouse unless its directly attacked again. They have struck syria in the recent past though.

They took out a Syrian Fighter over the Golan this morning. Right when we began our attacks.
 
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You might want to be careful about using that colloquialism in connection with Mr. Obama.

Meh.....now you know where MC Hammer got his idea on To Legit to Quit. :lol:
 
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Oh, OK, so, you find what the DNC did wrong, and then you go and do the same thing, huh? Two wrongs don't make a right.

The Dems merely set the tone for dealing with a wartime president. And the next dem presidential candidate said it was my DUTY...I am merely complying with her wishes to show how diplomatic I can be.
 
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Nice to see your partisan agenda trumps your support of an American military mission and CIC. "I won't work! It won't work!" Jesus listen to your self deprecating whining.

And furthermore the right was pleading the president to do something. Now some like yourself are complaining he is. WTF?

I'm whining? LOL

Please tell me how this has a snowball's chance in hell of doing anything. I hope it does, but I can't possibly see how.
 
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Thank God Republicans don't time policies for elections.

We don't start military campaigns for it, no.

Like Bosnia when a stained blue dress surfaced.
 
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