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US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria[W:354]

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Bush told his security advisors that he did not even want to hear Bin Ladens name mentioned and they should concentrate on Iraq in the first week of his term. Later in the summer when the warnings came he refused to heed them because he believed "it is a hoax by Saddam to keep us off his trail". Could anybody be more of a moron? Bush was fixated on Saddam and missed 911 because of it....... and that is being generous.
Whatever, ....read any good comic books lately?
 
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No, what happened on Bush's watch was due to a breakdown of not allowing the FBI to share intelligence with the CIA and visa versa. And unfortunately the law that made it impossible to share intelligence was the result of a Democrat. Bad law was the main cause of the breakdown of intelligence. It was also bad law that allows our visa program to be so corrupt allowing people into this country from places that are a major threat and then not following up on them allowing them to get lost in the system. Which is exactly the way the hijackers of the airplanes that killed 3,000 innocent lives managed to fulfill their plan. And if we face another attack from within, under Obama's watch or in the very near future, it will be because we didn't enforce our laws pertaining to our borders, nor did we reform the visa program or stop the radicals from returning to this country after joining ISIS.
The FBI had the names of every hijacker in 911 and Bush refused to release them to the airlines because he "believed" the warnings were nothing but a Iraqi hoax. That is what happened before 911 and it is all in the Bush Whitehouse notes released last year.
 
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The same Libya where a sitting US ambassador (the Presidents PERSONAL representative) was murdered by terrorists? The one where terrorists have just stolen 7 passenger jetliners? We must have different definitions of success.

"our politicians" are the left, and they lost the PEACE in Vietnam like they are in Iraq.



Newsflash: a bipartsan congressional committee found no wrong doing in you righties alleged Bengazi scandal. So give it up.
 
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Newsflash: a bipartsan congressional committee found no wrong doing in you righties alleged Bengazi scandal. So give it up.
The investigation has not yet started.
 
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The FBI had the names of every hijacker in 911 and Bush refused to release them to the airlines because he "believed" the warnings were nothing but a Iraqi hoax. That is what happened before 911 and it is all in the Bush Whitehouse notes released last year.
I suppose you have a link to that?
 
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Whatever, ....read any good comic books lately?

No I don't read fiction. Here's something from the NY Times though.

I have read excerpts from many of [the still-classified Presidential Daily Briefs] … and come to an inescapable conclusion: the administration’s reaction to what Mr. Bush was told in the weeks before that infamous briefing reflected significantly more negligence than has been disclosed. In other words, the Aug. 6 document, for all of the controversy it provoked, is not nearly as shocking as the briefs that came before it. The direct warnings to Mr. Bush about the possibility of a Qaeda attack began in the spring of 2001. By May 1, the Central Intelligence Agency told the White House of a report that “a group presently in the United States” was planning a terrorist operation. Weeks later, on June 22, the daily brief reported that Qaeda strikes could be “imminent,” although intelligence suggested the time frame was flexible.

But some in the administration considered the warning to be just bluster. An intelligence official and a member of the Bush administration both told me in interviews that the neoconservative leaders who had recently assumed power at the Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; according to this theory, Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, whom the neoconservatives saw as a greater threat. Intelligence officials, these sources said, protested that the idea of Bin Laden, an Islamic fundamentalist, conspiring with Mr. Hussein, an Iraqi secularist, was ridiculous, but the neoconservatives’ suspicions were nevertheless carrying the day.

In response, the C.I.A. prepared an analysis that all but pleaded with the White House to accept that the danger from Bin Laden was real.

“The U.S. is not the target of a disinformation campaign by Usama Bin Laden,” the daily brief of June 29 read, using the government’s transliteration of Bin Laden’s first name. Going on for more than a page, the document recited much of the evidence ….

And the C.I.A. repeated the warnings in the briefs that followed.

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Yet, the White House failed to take significant action. Officials at the Counterterrorism Center of the C.I.A. grew apoplectic. On July 9, at a meeting of the counterterrorism group, one official suggested that the staff put in for a transfer so that somebody else would be responsible when the attack took place, two people who were there told me in interviews. The suggestion was batted down, they said, because there would be no time to train anyone else.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html?_r=2&
 
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Also not really. They aren't great but they aren't invading nations, killing civilians who wont join them, and threatening to kill civilians here, are they?

I would take an arab dictator over islamists any day.

They sponsor terrorists, have a brutal secret police, had no problem gassing and bombing civilians, etc. etc. Not really on Santa's good list either.
 
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We never lost the War. The Iraqi leadership dropped the ball AFTER we left. Do tou actually believe the stuff you make up?

It was Obama's responsibility-his own generals, as well as Iraq warned him-and he left anyway-he wanted the headline for the electios.
 
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Yes, that attack occurred just months after President Bush took residency at the White House, delayed because of the shenanigans of Al Gore and his administration was still relying on the "intelligence team" of the Clinton administration. The same intelligence team that had been in place for eight forking years. Guess they missed a few things.

Just when I thought it wouldn't get ant deeper...

Where's that darn shovel when you need it?
 
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CNN is reporting that there are several Arab countries, including Jordan (who's government officials are confirming as much right now) were involved in airstrikes.

I heard that our tomahawks struck from the Red Sea-if thats true they overflew Jordan.
 
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I heard that our tomahawks struck from the Red Sea-if thats true they overflew Jordan.

This was an actual Jordanian Govt Official that went on to CNN to confirm that their jets participated in strikes inside Syria, and were just now returning. At the very least, I'm glad to see that more countries are involved outside of the "white variety". Gives the campaign a less "crusadey" vibe if you know what I mean...
 
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The military says WE NEED BOOTS ON THE GROUND. So you tell me, are we listening to them or not?

Absolutely incorrect. The military brass says they will make that recomendation to the CIC if needed.
 
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Newsflash: a bipartsan congressional committee found no wrong doing in you righties alleged Bengazi scandal. So give it up.

Newsflash-Benghazi isn't over-we are being lied to and after the dems lose the senate we can find out whats actually going on.
 
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I'm not surprised that you would, after all only a partisan would think so.

Actually no. It would be evident even to an impartial observer.
 
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Absolutely incorrect. The military brass says they will make that recomendation to the CIC if needed.

Just think about it for yoruself Enigma; do you really think air power alone is going to destroy and organization like ISIS? When has air power alone ever succeeded in destroying an enemy?
 
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Deep down, the dems know this. Even so, everything Obama has done is magically Bush's fault. This does not extend to Clinton about 9/11 though. :doh


So it's O.K. for you guys to blame Clinton for 911 but heaven forbid Obama should blame Bush for leaving him a tanked economy and two wars.

You just can't make this sheet up!
 
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Newsflash-Benghazi isn't over-we are being lied to and after the dems lose the senate we can find out whats actually going on.

Do you know what the word bipartisan means when it comes to investigating congressional committtees?
 
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The FBI had the names of every hijacker in 911 and Bush refused to release them to the airlines because he "believed" the warnings were nothing but a Iraqi hoax.
Bush at the time was getting briefings from the FBI and the CIA and both were not allowed to share their information with each other by law. Both the CIA leadership and FBI leadership were Clinton leftovers. Freeh spent a controversial eight years as director of the FBI, before he left in June, 2001 under the Bush administration. But the 9/11 attack had already been hatched on his watch and he has been criticized by the 9/11 commission for not having his agents more focused on counterterrorism. And have you forgotten about Sandy Berger, National Security Adviser to Bill Clinton clear up to 2001?
Sandy Berger was sentenced Thursday to community service and probation and fined $50,000 for illegally removing highly classified documents from the National Archives and intentionally destroying some of them.

Berger must perform 100 hours of community service and pay the fine as well as $6,905 for the administrative costs of his two-year probation, a district court judge ruled.

"I deeply regret the actions that I took at the National Archives two years ago, and I accept the judgment of the court," Berger said outside the courthouse after his sentencing.

"I'm glad that the 9/11 commission has made clear that it received all the documents that it sought, all the documents that it needed, and I'm pleased to finally have this matter resolved," he added.

Berger reached a plea deal with federal prosecutors in April to avoid a jail sentence.

At that time, he said the reason he took the documents was so he could prepare himself and others to assist the 9/11 commission, which investigated the circumstances surrounding the 2001 terrorist attacks and published a report of its findings last year.

The documents taken by Berger dealt with the terror threats during the 2000 millennium celebration, according to parties in the case.

According to the charges, Berger -- between September 2 and October 2, 2003 -- "knowingly removed classified documents from the National Archives and Records Administration and stored and retained such documents at places," such as his private Washington office.

Berger's associates admit he took five copies of an after-action report detailing the 2000 millennium terror plot from the Archives. The aides say Berger returned to his office, discovered that three of the copies appeared to be duplicates and cut them up with scissors.

The revelations were a dramatic change from Berger's claim last year that he had made an "honest mistake" and either misplaced or unintentionally threw the documents away.

When Archives officials contacted him after they realized documents were missing, Berger told them about the two copies he had, and returned them, along with his handwritten notes, officials said.

CNN.com - Sandy Berger fined $50,000 for taking documents - Sep 8, 2005
The man stuck the documents from the archives down in his pants for cripe sakes what was he trying to hide?

You know it is time you get off the partisan bandwagon pointing fingers and start focusing on the real threats we face as a nation due to fecklessness of parties fighting over power and demand better.
 
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Just think about it for yoruself Enigma; do you really think air power alone is going to destroy and organization like ISIS? When has air power alone ever succeeded in destroying an enemy?

No it will take boots on the ground. Just not our boots hopefully. It's time the folks in the region that have the most to lose from ISIS step up to the plate. We already have fighter jets from five middle eastern countries involved in the airstrikes. Hopefully that is a sign of things to come for their boots on the ground.
 
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