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Arizona Cardinals player arrested on domestic violence allegations

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Arizona Cardinals backup running back Jonathan Dwyer was arrested in connection with domestic abuse allegations, Phoenix police said Wednesday night.

The Cardinals deactivated Dwyer after news of the arrest, according to a news release from the team.

CNN's calls to the office of Dwyer's agent, Adisa Bakari, weren't immediately returned.

The announcement from the Phoenix Police Department said two incidents allegedly occurred on consecutive days in late July. They were reported last week.

Detectives interviewed Dwyer and he "admitted to the incidents, however, denied any physical assaults," the police statement said.

Police said he was booked on one count of aggravated assault causing a fracture, one count of aggravated assault involving a minor, two counts of criminal damage, one count of preventing the use of a phone in an emergency, and assault.

The two victims were a 27-year-old woman and an 18-month-old child, police said.

Dwyer is being held at the Maricopa County Jail.

The Cardinals said they became aware of the allegations when contacted by police.

Dwyer, 25, is the fourth NFL player to be in the headlines this week. Two other players, Adrian Peterson of the Minnesota Vikings and Greg Hardy of the Carolina Panthers, took paid leave from their teams to focus on their legal cases.

NFL's Dwyer arrested on domestic violence allegations - CNN.com

Seriously, this is getting out of hand. I can't believe yet another player from the NFL is facing charges involving domestic abuse. It seems to me that players are really have some issues turning off the aggression when they are off the field.
 
NFL's Dwyer arrested on domestic violence allegations - CNN.com

Seriously, this is getting out of hand. I can't believe yet another player from the NFL is facing charges involving domestic abuse. It seems to me that players are really have some issues turning off the aggression when they are off the field.

A culture of indifference can be toxic and it increasingly appears that the lack of gravity placed on the Ray Rice abuse case was symptomatic of a larger problem.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/nfl-punis...mestic-violence-goodell-era/story?id=25534452

Changes including at the Commissioner's level, far better screening of players prior to being signed, a possible prohibition on drafting/signing individuals who have been convicted of domestic abuse/sex crimes, severe penalties for abuse, among other measures may be needed to turn around the league's culture. At the same time, the majority of players who do not commit such abuses need to be more vocal against those responsible for such abuses. Players who abet such acts e.g., Captain Munnerlyn (Vikings teammate Captain Munnerlyn says treatment of Adrian Peterson 'unfair' - TwinCities.com) are also part of the problem.
 
This one sounds fishy. On the news they said this happened last July. Why did she wait two months to report it?
 
Much has been made of Erik Erikson's (Red State) piece yesterday on NFL domestic violence in contrast to ordinary folks' stats: No, the NFL Is Not a Hotbed of Wife and Child Beaters | RedState

Trying to compare those with high six-figure (or greater) incomes, most having some college education, to the general public is meaningless - perhaps a dose of common sense is in order. We should expect that those higher incomes and more education would be less prone to criminal activity or at he very least less likely too get caught doing it.
 
This one sounds fishy. On the news they said this happened last July. Why did she wait two months to report it?

Political Correctness.
 
But only when sponsors start to bail .

Well whatever - we live in a free country.. If sponsors want to give into your alternate reality then that is fine.
 
Did you notice the Minnesota owner taking Peterson off the roster?
He wasn't standing in front of the Radisson logo this time--no logos at all.

Yer too intelligent not to realize the bottom line for owners is their bottom line.
That IS reality--and it isn't alternative .

Well whatever - we live in a free country.. If sponsors want to give into your alternate reality then that is fine.
 
Did you notice the Minnesota owner taking Peterson off the roster?
He wasn't standing in front of the Radisson logo this time--no logos at all.

Yer too intelligent not to realize the bottom line for owners is their bottom line.
That IS reality--and it isn't alternative .

This isn't an NFL problem this is an internal problem with the Vikings organization...

In what universe do you think you have a say in this situation? sure you can voice your concerns but beyond that - that is about where it ends...

If you believe your opinion is worth more than your opinion then you're a totalitarian.
 
A culture of indifference can be toxic and it increasingly appears that the lack of gravity placed on the Ray Rice abuse case was symptomatic of a larger problem.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/nfl-punis...mestic-violence-goodell-era/story?id=25534452

Changes including at the Commissioner's level, far better screening of players prior to being signed, a possible prohibition on drafting/signing individuals who have been convicted of domestic abuse/sex crimes, severe penalties for abuse, among other measures may be needed to turn around the league's culture. At the same time, the majority of players who do not commit such abuses need to be more vocal against those responsible for such abuses. Players who abet such acts e.g., Captain Munnerlyn (Vikings teammate Captain Munnerlyn says treatment of Adrian Peterson 'unfair' - TwinCities.com) are also part of the problem.

INDIFFERENCE?!?!? Are you kidding me? You either haven't been on this forum the last week or two, Or you haven't checked outside AP's and Rice's house because otherwise you'd see the lynch mobs outside their houses! What Indifference are you talking about?
 
This isn't an NFL problem this is an internal problem with the Vikings organization...

In what universe do you think you have a say in this situation? sure you can voice your concerns but beyond that - that is about where it ends...

If you believe your opinion is worth more than your opinion then you're a totalitarian.

I don't call people totalitarians like you do Mr. Nick.

I simply report the data and observations and let folks decide.

Fair--Balanced--Unafraid /
 
INDIFFERENCE?!?!? Are you kidding me? You either haven't been on this forum the last week or two, Or you haven't checked outside AP's and Rice's house because otherwise you'd see the lynch mobs outside their houses! What Indifference are you talking about?

I'm not going to excuse these players action, however I don't see how it is your business, the NFL business or even the Teams business...

Believe it or not athletes have PERSONAL TIME......
 
I'm not going to excuse these players action, however I don't see how it is your business, the NFL business or even the Teams business...

Believe it or not athletes have PERSONAL TIME......

Uh, wrong post? I was just posting on sutherland talking about some mythical "culture of indifference" when it came to stuff like this...
 
I don't call people totalitarians like you do Mr. Nick.

I simply report the data and observations and let folks decide.

Fair--Balanced--Unafraid /

You don't know the first thing about objective observation..... If you did you wouldn't be challenging me.

This is why I enjoy the word "brainwash."

You value socially accepted behavior rather than what is right or wrong.
 
INDIFFERENCE?!?!? Are you kidding me? You either haven't been on this forum the last week or two, Or you haven't checked outside AP's and Rice's house because otherwise you'd see the lynch mobs outside their houses! What Indifference are you talking about?

Indifference on the part of the NFL, not the media and people in general. The NFL is not a law enforcement agency so I have mixed feelings about their involvement in players' legal issues, although featuring people on the field who have been accused of crimes that the public deems as serious is probably not the greatest thing for the league's image.
 
Indifference on the part of the NFL, not the media and people in general. The NFL is not a law enforcement agency so I have mixed feelings about their involvement in players' legal issues, although featuring people on the field who have been accused of crimes that the public deems as serious is probably not the greatest thing for the league's image.

Okay, if that's the culture he's referring to, then that isn't so insane and that's fine, I can at least see that viewpoint.
 
INDIFFERENCE?!?!? Are you kidding me? You either haven't been on this forum the last week or two, Or you haven't checked outside AP's and Rice's house because otherwise you'd see the lynch mobs outside their houses! What Indifference are you talking about?

I'm referring to the NFL, not the general public. The general public has been ahead of the league on the issue of combating domestic violence.
 
I'm referring to the NFL, not the general public. The general public has been ahead of the league on the issue of combating domestic violence.

And like I said above, that's fair, I don't agree with it, but I do think it's fair. I've been of the viewpoint this whole time that the issue was blown out of proportion for two reason:

1) There is no other reported incidents of Ray Rice being violent or tied to any domestic abuse cases. Real "wife beaters" are habitual, they aren't just one time offenders. And in this day and age, if Ray Rice had sent his wife to the hospital, someone from that hospital would of leaked the incident, or spoken anonymously to TMZ and we'd of known of it.

2) Not only did the wife go out of his way to stand up for him (not uncommon for domestic abuse victims), but we've also not heard anything from any of her friends. It's easy enough to dismiss the wife's voice, she's a domestic abuse victim and they'll often lie to cover up for their abuser, however that wouldn't prevent her friends from speaking up on her behalf (This is how many domestic abuse cases come to the attention of authorities).

What those two facts tell me, is that in all likelihood, we just treated a guy who made a an awful mistake (and deserved to be punished with a suspension) but not one that had been made before. Considering he had never done this before, and the wife was so adamant in defending him (again, at this point, I'm not considering her a typical domestic abuse victim in that this hasn't occurred multiple times). If I was Roger Goddell, and I know all the above and I'm listening to Janay Rice who is pleading on her husband's behalf, I don't have a problem with the two game suspension.

My problem with the NFL has been the frantic reaction to the reaction, which shows a lack of leadership and belief in their convictions.
 
What do all these domestic violence perps have in common?
 
And like I said above, that's fair, I don't agree with it, but I do think it's fair. I've been of the viewpoint this whole time that the issue was blown out of proportion for two reason:

1) There is no other reported incidents of Ray Rice being violent or tied to any domestic abuse cases. Real "wife beaters" are habitual, they aren't just one time offenders. And in this day and age, if Ray Rice had sent his wife to the hospital, someone from that hospital would of leaked the incident, or spoken anonymously to TMZ and we'd of known of it.

2) Not only did the wife go out of his way to stand up for him (not uncommon for domestic abuse victims), but we've also not heard anything from any of her friends. It's easy enough to dismiss the wife's voice, she's a domestic abuse victim and they'll often lie to cover up for their abuser, however that wouldn't prevent her friends from speaking up on her behalf (This is how many domestic abuse cases come to the attention of authorities).

What those two facts tell me, is that in all likelihood, we just treated a guy who made a an awful mistake (and deserved to be punished with a suspension) but not one that had been made before. Considering he had never done this before, and the wife was so adamant in defending him (again, at this point, I'm not considering her a typical domestic abuse victim in that this hasn't occurred multiple times). If I was Roger Goddell, and I know all the above and I'm listening to Janay Rice who is pleading on her husband's behalf, I don't have a problem with the two game suspension.

My problem with the NFL has been the frantic reaction to the reaction, which shows a lack of leadership and belief in their convictions.

I think some of this is politically tied to the War on Women meme.
 
Say each team has about about 65-70 players (53 on roster, a few injured reserves, suspended, practice squad). Now there are 32 teams in the NFL today. Making them have between 2080 to 2240 players playing for them. Even if only 5% of men would commit domestic violence (and the numbers are supposedly higher, somewhat like 1 in 5) that would make between 104 and 112 on average guilty of domestic abuse.

So having some arrests for domestic abuse under a group of men who play a very violent sport, who are under extreme pressure in their job, who work out in the gym, etc. etc. etc. etc. arrested is not that strange. It is just that they are highly visible and their arrests will lead to a media frenzy.
 
This one sounds fishy. On the news they said this happened last July. Why did she wait two months to report it?

The announcement from the Phoenix Police Department said two incidents allegedly occurred on consecutive days in late July. They were reported last week

I'm with you. Why'd she wait to report them, especially considering they involved an 18 month old child?

Not excusing what he did, assuming he did what he's charged with doing. I just don't get the waiting part. I wonder if this is going to be a daily occurrence now.
 
Say each team has about about 65-70 players (53 on roster, a few injured reserves, suspended, practice squad). Now there are 32 teams in the NFL today. Making them have between 2080 to 2240 players playing for them. Even if only 5% of men would commit domestic violence (and the numbers are supposedly higher, somewhat like 1 in 5) that would make between 104 and 112 on average guilty of domestic abuse.

So having some arrests for domestic abuse under a group of men who play a very violent sport, who are under extreme pressure in their job, who work out in the gym, etc. etc. etc. etc. arrested is not that strange. It is just that they are highly visible and their arrests will lead to a media frenzy.

I see where you're going with that, but assuming 5% of NFL players are guilty of violence against others, that sounds like a very large problem. Do you think 5% of the general population is into domestic violence against their wives/girlfriends and their children?
 
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