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Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

Not to be outdone by Conservative extremists, Liberals may have an extremist of their own running in 2016. To that I say "Run Bernie Run". This would definitely stop Hillary Clinton from gaining the White House. Her Neoliberal positions are every bit as dangerous as the Neocons were, and to be honest, I would rather see a Republican who is not a Neocon in office over Hillary.

Discussion?

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I like Sanders...however, the small amount of support that he would garner running for President will not put a dent into Hilary's support. If Hilary runs, the nomination and the Whitehouse are hers. There isn't anybody currently out there that will stop her.
 
Yet, the left voted for Obama, perhaps the least qualified candidate ever, and compound that by the fact that he already served one term and proved that he was not up to the job.

Is it "IRONY" that almost always, without fail.....those who claim that "Obama is the least qualified candidate ever", almost always voted for GWB...not only once...but twice?
 
Is it "IRONY" that almost always, without fail.....those who claim that "Obama is the least qualified candidate ever", almost always voted for GWB...not only once...but twice?

Please make a point, what am I supposed to respond to? I didn't vote for Bush twice, BTW. Hope that didn't ruin your day.
 
Not to be outdone by Conservative extremists, Liberals may have an extremist of their own running in 2016. To that I say "Run Bernie Run". This would definitely stop Hillary Clinton from gaining the White House. Her Neoliberal positions are every bit as dangerous as the Neocons were, and to be honest, I would rather see a Republican who is not a Neocon in office over Hillary.

Discussion?

Article is here.

I think RINO's and progressives alike are aristocrats with authoritarian attitudes...
 
How much is enough with tax breaks for the rich and corporations.
The very same tax breaks that have the GOP governor in Kansas in deep trouble, not to mention the state's finances.
Even moderate Republicans as yourself have abandoned Brownback .

Non answer.
 
I'm sure there are places in the country where voters just vote straight D tickets, but I just saw the worst example of it in my city in my lifetime at least. We had a Chancellor, who was the best Chancellor in my county, lawyers loved being in his court because he was predictable and fair and knew his stuff - no surprises. Anyway, he's a democrat and some yahoo, with a failed law practice and three attempts to pass the bar and no endorsements even from the GOP because he's an incompetent fool, but he gets on the ballot with an R next to his name..... and wins by 7 points. Pretty sad really.

ouch. people rarely know much about down ticket candidates. I'm guilty of not knowing as well sometimes too.
 
If anyone doesn't realize this is a plot to make her the "reasonable" Democrat I have a bridge to sell them.
I dunno if a plot is active but you have made an excellent observation (a serious effort by Sanders would pull Hillary to the left, at least in the primaries).
 
I hope he runs but don't think he would stand a chance, as he's truly for the ppl and seems fairly uncorruptible. Hilary will win IMO...

Also he is a independent and a self described socialist... Things I'm all for... He may run as a dem however...
 
Not to be outdone by Conservative extremists, Liberals may have an extremist of their own running in 2016. To that I say "Run Bernie Run". This would definitely stop Hillary Clinton from gaining the White House. Her Neoliberal positions are every bit as dangerous as the Neocons were, and to be honest, I would rather see a Republican who is not a Neocon in office over Hillary.

Discussion?

Article is here.


Please define the policy positions, values and beliefs of what you state here as a "Neocon"?

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Not to be outdone by Conservative extremists, Liberals may have an extremist of their own running in 2016. To that I say "Run Bernie Run". This would definitely stop Hillary Clinton from gaining the White House. Her Neoliberal positions are every bit as dangerous as the Neocons were, and to be honest, I would rather see a Republican who is not a Neocon in office over Hillary.

Discussion?

Article is here.

He would never win if he decides to run. This is a no-brainer.
 
He would never win if he decides to run. This is a no-brainer.
But god I hope he does!

I agree though... It might be good anyway it would bring socialism back into the mainstream and take away the "boogie man" aspect so many Americans think it is...

It also would allow him to challenge ppl like Hilary...
 
I believe that Sanders, while a Socialist, would be better for America than Hillary, and huge improvement over Obama.

I believe that a President Sanders is at least honest about his belief in socialism, and is far more likely to walk the walk, rather than do what Obama did, run on a Leftist platform, and Govern as a Ethnocentric Corporate Cronnie Fascist.

I believe that a President Sanders would be a "Soft-Liberal", with rather naive and silly notions about economics, but he would not violate the Constitution and Law in the ways that Obama, Eric Holder, and the other Progressive-Fascists have done.

I believe that a President Sanders would cripple the American economy with Green endeavors which will Waste billions, and delay any real economic / industrial recovery. But, because he is not in it for Corporate Cronnies, but real belief in the Green agenda, it would waste less money, and generate more in actual Green improvements than the Billions thrown as kickbacks by Obama and Crew.

I believe that a President Sanders would have actually limits of morality and ethics, which are sadly lacking in Obama.

I believe that a President Sanders would be very weak in international politics, but, after Obama, the Cloward-Piven years, the world wide apology tour, the over use, while cutting the budget of our Military, America will be very weak no matter who becomes President in 2016.

I believe that a President Sanders would not get U.S. involved in any new wars which we refuse to call wars.

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I believe that Sanders, while a Socialist, would be better for America than Hillary, and huge improvement over Obama.

I believe that a President Sanders is at least honest about his belief in socialism, and is far more likely to walk the walk, rather than do what Obama did, run on a Leftist platform, and Govern as a Ethnocentric Corporate Cronnie Fascist.

I believe that a President Sanders would be a "Soft-Liberal", with rather naive and silly notions about economics, but he would not violate the Constitution and Law in the ways that Obama, Eric Holder, and the other Progressive-Fascists have done.

I believe that a President Sanders would cripple the American economy with Green endeavors which will Waste billions, and delay any real economic / industrial recovery. But, because he is not in it for Corporate Cronnies, but real belief in the Green agenda, it would waste less money, and generate more in actual Green improvements than the Billions thrown as kickbacks by Obama and Crew.

I believe that a President Sanders would have actually limits of morality and ethics, which are sadly lacking in Obama.

I believe that a President Sanders would be very weak in international politics, but, after Obama, the Cloward-Piven years, the world wide apology tour, the over use, while cutting the budget of our Military, America will be very weak no matter who becomes President in 2016.

I believe that a President Sanders would not get U.S. involved in any new wars which we refuse to call wars.

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What's wrong with socialism?

And you think he would be a soft liberal? You must have never scene him speak in congress!!!

And Hilary will b worse than Obama. She's a bigger interventionist and more right leaning than him.
 
I'm not in favor of government checks nor of higher taxes. No, I think the way to solve the problem of income inequality is more in the realm of free markets.

For one thing, let's not collect taxes to bail out the "too big to fail" entities, then let them pay their 1%ers huge bonuses. For another, let's tax all income the same, regardless of source. Then, let's get rid of the system whereby the wealthy purchase influence in the government that helps them become even more wealthy. There are several things that could be done to keep the US from becoming more like third world countries in which all of the wealth in concentrated in just a few hands.

no progressive tax rates either.
 
Front page of Sanders' own senate.gov website:

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What a ****ing clown.
 
He would never win if he decides to run. This is a no-brainer.

Nope, but he could run as an independent or a Green, and siphon off enough Liberal votes to doom Hillary.
 
Front page of Sanders' own senate.gov website:

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What a ****ing clown.
Well its true. They made up libertarianism. They fund the teabagger party.

Bernie is awesome.

They just don't wanna pay taxes (which is a absurdly greedy notion)
 
I'd like to see him run. He's not perfect by any means but he's a hell of alot better than any of the other major party nominees.
 
Well its true. They made up libertarianism.

That claim is so ignorant my head is spinning. Libertarianism was around long before the Koch Bros were even a twinkle in their father's eye.
 
That claim is so ignorant my head is spinning. Libertarianism was around long before the Koch Bros were even a twinkle in their father's eye.
Nope. It was founded in DEC 1971 with ideals that were largely made by Koch's dollars donating to various political think tanks and organizations...

Try researching things before you speak ya?
 
That claim is so ignorant my head is spinning. Libertarianism was around long before the Koch Bros were even a twinkle in their father's eye.

I think Libertarianism started before America was official with the founder being Thomas Jefferson.

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I think Libertarianism started before America was official with the founder being Thomas Jefferson.

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Oh yea the guy that thought he had so much liberty it was ok to rape his slaves and enslaved his kids he founded your party? Great idea revere him...

No it was founded in 1971 regardless of what you think.

And its funny you should say that.... Jefferson died in 1782 and the word didn't exist till 1789.... Kinda hard for him to have done that...

Stop watching Glenn beck dude it rots your mind.
 
While I do not agree with many of his positions I very much agree that the wealth and power inequality in this country needs to be dealt with. If we do not do something about it soon I feel all other issues will become moot. I believe that we will reach a point where we will truly be ruled by the top few percent both socially and governmentally. All these other issues people tend to focus on during elections may become totally meaningless when the average person becomes null in the system.
 
Oh yea the guy that thought he had so much liberty it was ok to rape his slaves and enslaved his kids he founded your party? Great idea revere him...

No it was founded in 1971 regardless of what you think.

And its funny you should say that.... Jefferson died in 1782 and the word didn't exist till 1789.... Kinda hard for him to have done that...

Stop watching Glenn beck dude it rots your mind.

Well go ahead, cite your source(s).

Have you read any works by the following, all of whom were influential in articulating the beliefs that describe libertarianism?: John Locke, Frédéric Bastiat, Thomas Paine, John Stuart Mill, Herbert Spencer, Henry George; Albert Jay Nock, Frank Chodorov, Ludwig von Mises, Friedrich Hayek, Isabel Paterson, Rose Wilder Lane, Murray Rothbard, Milton Friedman.
 
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