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Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel[W:329]

Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

Shouting down a speaker is denying free speech just as effectively as the government could do it.

Uh....no.
 
Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

I didn't say what they were booing. I said I find it funny how people like Cruz automatically label people "bigots" or "anti-semites" if they don't blindly follow Israel.

Its a blunt force persuasion tactic, the over use of which is blunting its effectiveness.
 
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thats right.. Israel is under heavy attack by forces amassing arms to destory them

nice for you to be so cavalier from your keyboard..

Enemies who know full well Israel will turn their nations to glass if they even think they are about to be attacked.
 
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I love that people like you are cheering ****heads that booed a man by a bunch of hate filed bigots. It speaks so clearly as to who you really are.

The French are your greatest allies.
 
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If I praise Israel will christians give me booze too?
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me ... than a full frontal lobotomy.
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I didn't say what they were booing. I said I find it funny how people like Cruz automatically label people "bigots" or "anti-semites" if they don't blindly follow Israel.
Did Cruz use those terms you quoted?
 
Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

What are you even talking about?? I did not state that the Tea Party was a religious organization. I merely pointed out that it is demographically basically a new name for the religious right. The Religious Right was not a religious organization, it was / is, a group of socially and religiously conservative people with a socially and religiously conservative agenda.
Where did you read about this religious agenda? Do you have a link?
 
Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

Americans can both believe that Israel has the right to exist as a nation...and believe that Israel has not always acted with America's best interest in mind.

Americans can discern that Israel has a right to defend its self...and see some of Israel's actions as nothing to do with their defense.

Americans have the ability to separate the actions of the Israeli government from the Jewish people.

No government...is 100% infallible. No government in the history of the world has been 100% infallible.

Anyone who believes Israel is 100% infallible and exempt from any critical analysis is an idiot.
 
Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

Americans can both believe that Israel has the right to exist as a nation...and believe that Israel has not always acted with America's best interest in mind.

Americans can discern that Israel has a right to defend its self...and see some of Israel's actions as nothing to do with their defense.

Americans have the ability to separate the actions of the Israeli government from the Jewish people.

No government...is 100% infallible. No government in the history of the world has been 100% infallible.

Anyone who believes Israel is 100% infallible and exempt from any critical analysis is an idiot.

And too many people are spending too much time analyzing Israel when the problems lie elsewhere.
 
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And too many people are spending too much time analyzing Israel when the problems lie elsewhere.

I would not support anything I did not understand...Nor would I ask for anyone to support Israel on faith alone.
 
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I would not support anything I did not understand...Nor would I ask for anyone to support Israel on faith alone.
I doubt anyone is supporting Israel on faith alone.
 
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I find this a quite interesting turn of events, since evangelical Christians seem to form the backbone of the right wing base and as a backbone of the Tea Party (an even righter wing base, of which Cruz has previously been a darling). A beef with Israel seems quite out of character for them... in fact, nearly blasphemous.

The event organizers brushed the booing off on "a few politically motivated opportunists" but that really doesn't jibe with Cruz walking out.

These Christians were not evangelicals. They were Middle Eastern Christians who evidently share the same belief that Israel doesn't have a right to exist as most Middle Eastern Muslims.
 
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These Christians were not evangelicals. They were Middle Eastern Christians who evidently share the same belief that Israel doesn't have a right to exist as most Middle Eastern Muslims.

Awesome way to stereotype.
 
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Americans can both believe that Israel has the right to exist as a nation...and believe that Israel has not always acted with America's best interest in mind.

Americans can discern that Israel has a right to defend its self...and see some of Israel's actions as nothing to do with their defense.

Americans have the ability to separate the actions of the Israeli government from the Jewish people.

No government...is 100% infallible. No government in the history of the world has been 100% infallible.

Anyone who believes Israel is 100% infallible and exempt from any critical analysis is an idiot.

Extremely well put! :2wave:
 
Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

Not a very smart statement, since you really can't list any time that he's made a fool of himself. Especially compared to Obama, who does so on almost a daily basis.

I wanted to make sure you could understand it.
 
Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

Awesome way to stereotype.

He was saying 'most' so I don't see how that counts as a stereotype, and unfortunately he's very right.
 
Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

He was saying 'most' so I don't see how that counts as a stereotype, and unfortunately he's very right.

I know how to read.

These Christians were not evangelicals. They were Middle Eastern Christians who evidently share the same belief that Israel doesn't have a right to exist as most Middle Eastern Muslims.

These refers to the Christians in attendance. Most refers to Middle Eastern Muslims.
 
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Americans can both believe that Israel has the right to exist as a nation...and believe that Israel has not always acted with America's best interest in mind.

Americans can discern that Israel has a right to defend its self...and see some of Israel's actions as nothing to do with their defense.

Americans have the ability to separate the actions of the Israeli government from the Jewish people.

No government...is 100% infallible. No government in the history of the world has been 100% infallible.

Anyone who believes Israel is 100% infallible and exempt from any critical analysis is an idiot.


And anti-Semetic, don't forget that!
 
Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

I know how to read.



These refers to the Christians in attendance. Most refers to Middle Eastern Muslims.

So where is the stereotype here, were they not Middle Eastern Christians?
Is it stereotypical to say that most of them are, just like Middle Eastern Muslims, not in favor of Israel's existence?
 
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And anti-Semetic, don't forget that!

If you were trying to troll then it seems like you've miserably failed with that as well.
 
Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

People shouting down the stupid is how humans express their knowledge that a speaker is stupid.

And its perfectly OK.

Its the government that infringes on speech. The rest of us are free to speak, even if its over someone else. It's rude, but perfectly constitutional.



Perfectly OK....we'll see when a Democrat gets heckled or booed.
 
Re: Ted Cruz Gets Boos From Christians by Praising Israel

If you were trying to troll then it seems like you've miserably failed with that as well.

Uh, no! Actually having been called anti-Semitic on this board on multiple occasions (perhaps even by you in the past) for criticising the Israeli governments foreign policy, I think it could well be added to Texan's post.
 
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