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What is say is that I caught one.
You caught yourself? Very talented you are.
What is say is that I caught one.
Angry youths have been doing things like this for as hundreds and hundreds of years I bet. It's just that only recently have most people got video cameras in their phones to film it.
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Seeing as I haven't given them a pass, and stated in explicit terms that their behavior was not civilized, I've no idea what you're actually arguing here.
and then you also have people such as those in threads such as these who are motivated by their desire to avoid any accusation that they are racist that they refuse to acknowledge much less criticize the racial aspect involved when blacks target whites and then call anybody "racist" who does.The people that do nothing about it. The people that watch it actually happen and do nothing about it. The people that live in areas where these things happen but for whatever reason (fear, culture of not snitching, etc.) do nothing. The leaders of this country that for obviously politically correct reasons do nothing, or if they do at least say something (even though just talking isn't enough), blame others for the actions of young miscreants like these.
Is that enough people for you? Or would like more examples, including some names?
and then you also have people such as those in threads such as these who are motivated by their desire to avoid any accusation that they are racist that they refuse to acknowledge much less criticize the racial aspect involved when blacks target whites and then call anybody "racist" who does.
It is this great wall of impenetrable rhetoric that surrounds the issue that acts to enable the actions more than anything else. Instead of holding all people to the same standards, it is a game of identity politics with double standards based upon race.
Angry youths have been forming gangs for hundreds and hundreds of years and going out in packs to assault innocent people with their friends on the sidelines laughing and encouraging them?
I really don't believe that, sorry.
Wearing socks with sandals is a crime? When did this occur? I am ignorant, I tell you, ignorant. Like Shultzie says "I know nothing." :notlook: Please don't call the fashion police. :mrgreen:
Proof of which is seen in the responses I am getting from a number of people in this thread, one of which is just a troll trying to have fun, who refuse to discuss the real cultural problem that exists. Rather they attack me for pointing it out, and deflect from the fact that the attack even happened. Instead of discussing the problem, they say things like "no one accepts this" or "no one condones this" or some other half hearted deflection so that they put it to bed and don't have to actually discuss the problem, as if saying "this is bad" is enough.
The largest problem with this related to race, as I said previously, is the problem that race somehow prevents us from discussing these actions and prevents us from taking them on in a way that would change the culture. We can't discuss it unless we are of the same race as the perpetrators, which is ludicrous. If we try, we are called racists, just as Lutherf was basically accused of being when he spoke truth to action.
But, let the apologists and deflectors talk their talk. It makes it easier to pin blame when they self identify.
I'm curious if there would this much outrage if the white victim wasn't in the equation?
IMO, for far too much of the left, identity politics and/or multiculturalism has replaced liberalism as the governing principle. Compounding that is the corresponding rise of authoritarianism expressed through a rigid brand of political correctness that often times demands the suspension of rational thought, and all that is left is a brand of political fundamentalism every bit as severe as the most zealous right-wing religious fundamentalism.
Very true. Well said. The extremists rarely think they are extreme. That's part of what makes them extreme, the self-righteous thought that they are right, and everyone else is wrong.
Anybody notice the large pink elephant in the room?
Anybody notice the large pink elephant in the room?
I would hope the outrage would be just as great, but in the not too distant past, like now in some cities.I'm curious if there would this much outrage if the white victim wasn't in the equation?
Proof of which is seen in the responses I am getting from a number of people in this thread, one of which is just a troll trying to have fun, who refuse to discuss the real cultural problem that exists. Rather they attack me for pointing it out, and deflect from the fact that the attack even happened. Instead of discussing the problem, they say things like "no one accepts this" or "no one condones this" or some other half hearted deflection so that they put it to bed and don't have to actually discuss the problem, as if saying "this is bad" is enough.
The largest problem with this related to race, as I said previously, is the problem that race somehow prevents us from discussing these actions and prevents us from taking them on in a way that would change the culture. We can't discuss it unless we are of the same race as the perpetrators, which is ludicrous. If we try, we are called racists, just as Lutherf was basically accused of being when he spoke truth to action.
But, let the apologists and deflectors talk their talk. It makes it easier to pin blame when they self identify.
The Epidemic of Racial Crimes in America
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But that isn't the whole story.
The rate at which Blacks Assault Blacks, is far higher than the Rate that ALL other Racial groups Assault Blacks, COMBINED!
Shouldn't these official FBI crime statistics, and the story they tell, come into our narrative on the Ferguson situation?
Doesn't the threat of this kind of violence, which the police have to deal with daily, affect the nature of the wariness and response of police officers everywhere?
Should White Americans start holding themselves much more On-Guard and Wary around Black Americans?
Isn't it time that we stop creating the sense of Entitlement to "Social-Justice-Reprisal-Violence" generated by the special protections, preferential treatment, and racial manipulation propaganda created by Affirmative Action?
Isn't it time for the 45 years of Racial Preference Insanity to END!?
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But people / posters have tried over and over to discuss the under lying issues of Race and Violence on these and other forums.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/gener...on/203033-epidemic-racial-crimes-america.html
I had to make what was basically that same thread three times, before the censors stopped throwing it into the sewer!
It not that people didn't want to discuss it, they were only allowed to discuss it in the Sewer.
I still hold the the Sociology concept that Racial Preferences provided by the Official Government serve as an excuse and indictment against the non-prefered to justify "a sense of Entitlement to "Social-Justice-Reprisal-Violence" .
Whatever good Affirmative Action might have once done, today, it is a nasty and divisive political weapon, and a disruptive force on our society.
It is well past time for all types of Affirmative Action to END.
That doesn't mean that the Government should go right on providing opportunities for youth based on criteria other than RACE.
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The true believers always think they are fighting the good fight, and pretty much anything can be seen as virtuous when all that is needed to make it so is an agreement that it is virtue.
If large gangs of skinhead whites were to go on a rampage against blacks, there would be a zillion threads on it right now instead of one, and the discussion would be sure to stretch into many weeks.
None of the kids I know would ever behave in this manner. I think they're a product of their subculture. And I don't mean just one specific race. Uneducated white trailer trash in a different part of the country would act in much similar ways.
We have to focus on the culture, not the race.