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More than 100 teens swarm Memphis plaza, 'knocking out' shoppers

They all point at these supposed "growing trend" and "viral attacks" and whatnot.

Violent crime has been decreasing for years.
I'm sure that Kroger employee that had his teeth kicked down his throat for NO reason will take comfort on the stats.
 
I lived in Memphis back in the late 90s. I lived in Midtown Memphis at the time. Midtown is the melting pot of Memphis. I liked living there. You won't find a more southern feeling city than Memphis. Poplar and Highland is the eastern edge of midtown. Back when I lived there, where this happened would have been a pretty good part of town. It's sad to see Memphis going down hill to the extent it has. I don't know how to say this other than just coming out and saying it. Back when I lived there in the late 90s, the city of Memphis was about 50% black and 50% or so white. Today it's 62% black and about 30% white. So you have a lot of white flight going on. Moreover, you have a lot of middle class black flight to the suburbs as well. If the city doesn't get a handle on its crime, poverty, and schools, it's going to be another Detroit in a decade.

That said, I don't know what the solution is. Ultimately, mobs of violent teenagers is as much of a problem with bad parenting as it is with poor policing.

I was there a couple years ago, and its just as bad as Detroit. My 9yr old daughter is in Love with Elvis Presley so on a trip thru the south we took her to
Graceland. Well we got in late at night and stayed at a DaysInn I believe, the place was like a fortress! Gated and surrounded by barbed wire and video cameras. Anyways we decided to order a pizza and go pick it up around 11pm, and the pizza joint was located right on Elvis Presley Blvd. By the time we got to the pizza joint my daughter was absolutely terrified just from sitting in the backseat and viewing her surroundings on the ride there. She practically begged me not to get out of the vehicle to go inside and grab the pizza.. So that's Memphis from the view of a 9yr old girl who by the way is no stranger to Detroit.
 
Probably not and that's even more sad. Black kids ****ing up other black kids is just so common place that nobody even thinks twice about it.

I think the problem is that black on black crime is so common that its not sexy to the media anymore. But if it is a interracial story of any kind, the media is all over it because it is controversial.
 
I was there a couple years ago, and its just as bad as Detroit. My 9yr old daughter is in Love with Elvis Presley so on a trip thru the south we took her to
Graceland. Well we got in late at night and stayed at a DaysInn I believe, the place was like a fortress! Gated and surrounded by barbed wire and video cameras. Anyways we decided to order a pizza and go pick it up around 11pm, and the pizza joint was located right on Elvis Presley Blvd. By the time we got to the pizza joint my daughter was absolutely terrified just from sitting in the backseat and viewing her surroundings on the ride there. She practically begged me not to get out of the vehicle to go inside and grab the pizza.. So that's Memphis from the view of a 9yr old girl who by the way is no stranger to Detroit.

Well to be fair if you were down around Graceland the whole time, then you were in the worst part of Memphis. Memphis isn't as bad as Detroit yet, and still has nice areas in Midtown and East Memphis, but its headed that way.
 
I'm sure that Kroger employee that had his teeth kicked down his throat for NO reason will take comfort on the stats.

Yeah, that poor guy had a rough day. So that excuses CNN inflating fears with crime trends that don't exist, I guess.
 
If large gangs of skinhead whites were to go on a rampage against blacks, there would be a zillion threads on it right now instead of one, and the discussion would be sure to stretch into many weeks.

That's true but, in all fairness, this appears to be less an "attack on whites" than it was a good old fashioned rampage where the white victim was merely a target of opportunity.
 
I'm sure that Kroger employee that had his teeth kicked down his throat for NO reason will take comfort on the stats.

The stats are what they are. The fact is violent crime HAS been decreasing. Just because it is decreasing doesn't mean the violent crime that DOES happen isn't bad.

You're trying to use an emotional appeal to deflect from the stats that violent crime has been decreasing.
 
Too bad it doesn't identify aggravated assault by age and you're using national data. Whether or not it's increasing or decreasing doesn't prove your point unfortunately. I'll stick with my previous statement here in #185.

The violent crime rate in Memphis has been stubbornly high for decades now. It is as high today as it was back in the early 90s. The majority of major cities have become a lot safer over the last 20 years. Memphis is one of the few cities that has not. Cities like Houston, LA, New York, and even Chicago have seen dramatic reductions in violent crime over the last 20 years (not quite as dramatic in Chicago).

Basically we are starting to get some "failed states" within this country. While most cities have improved dramatically, cities like Saint Louis, Memphis, Detroit, and Birmingham have all remained bad or gotten a lot worse.
 
Yeah, that poor guy had a rough day. So that excuses CNN inflating fears with crime trends that don't exist, I guess.

As previously stated, more people need to have information on how to identify, avoid and report large groups of potentially violent people. The more innocent people know about it, the less likely they will be injured or killed or permanently disabled by them.
 
Considering my post that was quoted never mentioned race and was only focused on education & people who dwell in trailers, I didn't understand the cute use of the "n" word (struck out) in the response.

It's as if some are determined to bring race into discussions and then are sorely disappointed when posters don't bite.

I don't give a flying **** what race these savages were. There is a definite problem in this country and failure to acknowledge it and address it will only cause it to continue. If this was a pack of rich white kids I would hold them in the same contempt I hold this pack of savage monsters. If my kids every got involved in **** like this, they would be grounded until they were of legal age to leave.

I'll just say that if my son was involved in something like this, ummm ... let's just say he would be lucky if he wasn't "manhandled".
 
Yeah, that poor guy had a rough day. So that excuses CNN inflating fears with crime trends that don't exist, I guess.

Memphis is bad. If you had ever spent any time there you would know it would be hard to inflate the crime rate there. While most cities have gotten a lot safer over the years, Memphis hasn't. I would just assume you dropped me off in the middle of Syria than to have to walk down Danny Thomas through Hurt Village on a weekend night.
 
Yeah, that poor guy had a rough day. So that excuses CNN inflating fears with crime trends that don't exist, I guess.
It's (insert alphabet news network here) ... ratings equal viewers, viewers equal $.

Why else would FNC be interviewing Ward Churchill right now? He's irrelevant. But, he makes people mad, and mad equals viewers.
 
Where's the conflict? "Having reverted to the wild" yes, after having once been domestic. We have both wild pigs, and feral pigs, the later now roaming and living in the wild, though having once been breed in domestic farms.

You will never hear of grizzly bears being referred to as feral. Cats, dogs, pigs, etc. can be.

Just to be clear. An animal isn't referred to as feral, unless it (or its origins) were once domesticated.

Thinking you might wish to broaden your definition awareness, I posted as a favor.

I frequent areas where I am not the top of the food chain... the animal population in it's entirety is referred to as 'feral' (especially bear and lion).

Personally, I don't give a tinkersdamn... you are correct... I and the dictionary are wrong...

Celebrate perfection... it's a worthy (albeit impossible) goal

Thom Paine
 
I frequent areas where I am not the top of the food chain... the animal population in it's entirety is referred to as 'feral' (especially bear and lion).

False. Feral only refers to individuals of previously domesticated species.
 
Argue with dictionary.com

Try reading the whole definition, all of them, and understanding the concept. Instead of reading 2 but not 2a. Typical racist idiocy, "but part of the dictionary definition!"

Learn or not, your problem.
 
So what? It's means previously domesticated and now not. Colloquial definitions, used by racists, do not define the concept.



Did you read it?

1.
existing in a natural state, as animals or plants; not domesticated or cultivated; wild.
2.
having reverted to the wild state, as from domestication:
a pack of feral dogs roaming the woods.
3.
of or characteristic of wild animals; ferocious; brutal.


Only ONE of three offered definitions fits your argument, twice as much data points in the other direction. Always a kick dealing with you.
 
Thinking you might wish to broaden your definition awareness, I posted as a favor.

I frequent areas where I am not the top of the food chain... the animal population in it's entirety is referred to as 'feral' (especially bear and lion).

Personally, I don't give a tinkersdamn... you are correct... I and the dictionary are wrong...

Celebrate perfection... it's a worthy (albeit impossible) goal

Thom Paine

Well, I'm sorry Thom, but the way you began your post seemed to be more ridicule, then a helping hand, or "favor". Look here, your out on a limb on this, but if you don't give a "tinkersdamn", I suppose, neither do I.
 
Did you read it?

1.
existing in a natural state, as animals or plants; not domesticated or cultivated; wild.
2.
having reverted to the wild state, as from domestication:
a pack of feral dogs roaming the woods.
3.
of or characteristic of wild animals; ferocious; brutal.


Only ONE of three offered definitions fits your argument, twice as much data points in the other direction. Always a kick dealing with you.

Why is the second definition not highlighted. Of course a feral animal is now living in the wild. But it's referred to as feral, and not wild, because it was first domestic.

From Webster's
2b : having escaped from domestication and become wild <feral cats>
 

I am not sure what purpose is of debating the meaning of the term feral, but feral always refers to animals of a domesticated species living in the wild. Examples: Feral hogs, feral cats, feral goats, feral dogs.

Feral hogs are a huge problem throughout the South. Feral cats are a big problem just about everywhere.
 
Why is the second definition not highlighted. Of course a feral animal is now living in the wild. But it's referred to as feral, and not wild, because it was first domestic.

From Webster's
2b : having escaped from domestication and become wild <feral cats>



Oh....GEE...


Maybe to highlight the fact two of three definitions are different than the singular claim?

I can't believe we're having a ****ing debate about a text book definition of a two syllable word.


I think I need to go watch some paint dry
 
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