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Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

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Gardener said:
most routinely scrub that sort of relevant information from their reporting due to what they call "community sensitivities".
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Incorrect. Prove your assertion, if you can.

What the hell is being taught in British Mosques, anyway?
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Dishonest, unless you believe that beheading cats and old ladies has featured in Friday prayers sermons. Classic straw man argument.

In an age when London is a worldwide terrorist epicenter
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Patently ludicrous claim, unless you can give us a list of terrorist origins that shows London to be the point of origin of the most terror suspects/perpetrators.

A Grand Slam: dishonest, ignorant and bigoted. Congrats.
 
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Andalublue said:
Incorrect. Prove your assertion, if you can.

Dishonest, unless you believe that beheading cats and old ladies has featured in Friday prayers sermons. Classic straw man argument.

Patently ludicrous claim, unless you can give us a list of terrorist origins that shows London to be the point of origin of the most terror suspects/perpetrators.

A Grand Slam: dishonest, ignorant and bigoted. Congrats.
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Says the poster who has appointed himself as the arbiter of who gets to be considered properly white and who doesn't.
 
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American said:
How does Islam get so many nutters?
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It creates them.

I'm not sure what creates all the nutters who defend the awful things they do in the name of Islam by attacking anybody who objects through accusations of bigotry , though, other than a deep sense of self loathing.
 
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Misterveritis said:
I believe that many on the Left loath their own countries.


What do they have in common? All, or nearly all, were supported by the Islamofascist Supporter on the golf course, and his toadies in government and in the media. The Islamofascist Supporter abandoned friends and allies while encouraging our enemies.



Nor was it rosy then.



So the Islamofascist Supporter got his way. His Islamofascist friends are sawing off heads in foreign countries while their allies work in our government.



And while the world burns the Islamofascist Supporter continues to slash our military strength. He has done more damage to this nation in his six years than the Soviets were able to do between WWII and their fall.
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And how exactly is it that you and I disagree? Other then the statement that Obama is an Islamofacist, or that many on the left hate their own country, I point out that US policies are damaging the Middle East, and beneficial to militant Islamic groups, and you agree!
 
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Andalublue said:
Dishonest, unless you believe that beheading cats and old ladies has featured in Friday prayers sermons. Classic straw man argument.
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I don't believe that he said anything about it being preached in sermons, so that is your strawman. But, and I'll ask here because I want you to clarify for the record, do you think that there are Mosque's in Britain where recruiting, and even collusion with terror organizations is carried out?

Because if you don't think that is the case I give you Anjem Choudary:

Anjem Choudary - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Montecresto said:
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I wouldn't dismiss it so fast. As the saying goes Actions speak louder than words, and to date, an argument could be made that Obama is acting more like a Dhimmi than the leader of the Worlds lone super power.
 
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j-mac said:
I don't believe that he said anything about it being preached in sermons, so that is your strawman. But, and I'll ask here because I want you to clarify for the record, do you think that there are Mosque's in Britain where recruiting, and even collusion with terror organizations is carried out?

Because if you don't think that is the case I give you Anjem Choudary:

Anjem Choudary - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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I think that I can assert, without fear of being proved wrong, that no British mosque has ever taught, or had visiting teachers teach, that Moslems should do what this guy did to poor Mrs Silva. I challenge you or your cohorts to prove otherwise while staying on-topic.
 
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The Mark said:
That's always what really "matters".

All the rest is bull**** used to disguise deeper issues.
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The deeper issues inherent in people appointing themselves as arbiter of whether or not a person is properly white seem better suited for other forums that specialize in these sorts of discussions.

Especially since this should not be a discussion about race in the first place, but one of the religious practice revealed in the manner of the murder.
 
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Misterveritis said:
This is it? This is Russia and China on the move? LOL. This is the subtle give and take that goes on every year between local, regional, and world powers. Did Russia invade any countries we have defense agreements with?

This is an opinion piece done by someone who does not like antiterrorism.
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You assume that "on the move" means militarily. If you have failed to notice that a decade, more, of bad policy in the ME is driving China and Russia closer together, I'm sorry, and only hope that we get into Washington, soon, people who begin to advance less confrontational and more beneficial policies in the Middle East, that work to contain militant Islamic groups, rather then open up areas for them to grow and prosper.
 
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Andalublue said:
I think that I can assert, without fear of being proved wrong, that no British mosque has ever taught, or had visiting teachers teach, that Moslems should do what this guy did to poor Mrs Silva. I challenge you or your cohorts to prove otherwise while staying on-topic.
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Andalublue said:
I think that I can assert, without fear of being proved wrong, that no British mosque has ever taught, or had visiting teachers teach, that Moslems should do what this guy did to poor Mrs Silva. I challenge you or your cohorts to prove otherwise while staying on-topic.
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You obviously did not read about Mr. Choudary.....And you'll excuse me if I call bull **** on your claim "NO British Mosque..." No way you can know that....So, hyperbole is not an argument...Thanks.
 
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Misterveritis said:
Was the perp an Islamist? Don't you think sawing off some poor, defenseless woman's head with a knife is a bit extreme?
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Timothy McVeigh happened to be a Christian. He also happened to commit a crime far more horrific then this mentally ill fella in London. Did we label his crime an act of Christian extremism?
 
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oneworld2 said:
Sorry but I live here and that's completely wrong.And equating " the left " to immigration policy is a fallacy because it is the wish of the employing class to bring down wages
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There's a half dozen posters here who view the right as a hammer and the left as a nail.
 
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Jerry said:
If you think you, your boyfriend or someone you know might be white, take this simple test:

Would the person fit in with this picture?

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If so, they're white, if not, they're not white.

The victim in the OP would not fit in with this picture, we would in fact expect her to be asking us for more Lemon Pledge, not sun screen. Therefore she is not white.

She does, however, fit into this picture:

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She is Hispanic. The media just misidentified her, and considering how wrong the media has been in reporting basic facts I think this misidentification is a minor one.
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She's not Hispanic, Jerry. This ethnic classification doesn't even exist in Europe. If it's ever used, it's in reference to spanish speaking Latin Americans. The people of southern Europe, be they Portuguese, Spanish, Italian or Greek are considered white over here.
 
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j-mac said:
You obviously did not read about Mr. Choudary.....And you'll excuse me if I call bull **** on your claim "NO British Mosque..." No way you can know that....So, hyperbole is not an argument...Thanks.
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He knows all about him and others like him, but he is so obsessed with being "anti-racist" that he will attack anybody who objects to them. Since they are people of color he must support their objective, even as he goes so far as to think he is the one to decide who gets to be white and who doesn't.

In being so dogmatically "anti-racist", many people simply reveal that skin color is about all that really matters to them.
 
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j-mac said:
You obviously did not read about Mr. Choudary.....And you'll excuse me if I call bull **** on your claim "NO British Mosque..." No way you can know that.
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There's no way for you to prove your assertion that they have. If I say that Christian churches have taught that kittens should be microwaved, there's no way you can disprove that either, using your fallacious logic.


...So, hyperbole is not an argument...Thanks.
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I'd no need to read the wiki entry on Anjem Choudary, as I locked heads with him in a public debate in Manchester in about 1990. I know what a foul piece of filth he is, thank you, but even he has never taught that random old ladies should be beheaded.
 
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Grant said:
He was a Muslim and his behavior was extreme. What more can be said?
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Timothy McVeigh was a Christian, and his behavior was past extreme!
 
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Arcana XV said:
She's not Hispanic, Jerry. This ethnic classification doesn't even exist in Europe. If it's ever used, it's in reference to spanish speaking Latin Americans. The people of southern Europe, be they Portuguese, Spanish, Italian or Greek are considered white over here.
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Since it was a British poster now living in Spain who first declared that she wasn't Aryan enough in looks to be considered white, perhaps this understanding is not so widespread in Europe as you might imagine.
 
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j-mac said:
I wouldn't dismiss it so fast. As the saying goes Actions speak louder than words, and to date, an argument could be made that Obama is acting more like a Dhimmi than the leader of the Worlds lone super power.
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Not sure what that has to do with "deleted"?
 
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Gardener said:
Since it was a British poster now living in Spain who first declared that she wasn't Aryan enough in looks to be considered white, perhaps this understanding is not so widespread in Europe as you might imagine.
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Projecting again, I see. I have never used the word Aryan to describe anybody, ever. I merely pointed out that when someone said that a black Moslem had murdered a white lady, that she wasn't white. I believe Mrs Silva to have been of mixed race - Italian and African-Brazilian. If asked I would have told anyone that Barack Obama isn't white either. I guess that would be a racist observation to you too.
 
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Andalublue said:
There's no way for you to prove your assertion that they have. If I say that Christian churches have taught that kittens should be microwaved, there's no way you can disprove that either, using your fallacious logic.




I'd no need to read the wiki entry on Anjem Choudary, as I locked heads with him in a public debate in Manchester in about 1990. I know what a foul piece of filth he is, thank you, but even he has never taught that random old ladies should be beheaded.
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A journey into the mind of 'Jihadi John’ - Telegraph

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/w...t-to-uproot-seeds-of-radicalization.html?_r=0

"Deobandi madrassas produce imams who press radical attitudes on British Muslims. Most British Muslims are moderate, traditional, and reject and resent the fundamentalist invasion. But in the streets of East London and other cities with large Muslim communities, Deobandi agitation is a daily fact of life. Student groups such as the Isoc at LSBU and others affiliated with FOSIS provide an alternative source for the transmission of radical doctrines.

It has been asserted widely that Deobandis now control a majority of British mosques. Although they may have gained institutional leverage, they have not won over the majority of British believers in Islam. Moderate British Muslims must take back our mosques and university student societies from the extremists and work to drive the Deobandis out of all positions they have captured."

Radicalization of Young British Muslims

There are signs and studies all over Britain...That you choose to speak in terms of proving something that is readily apparent to anyone with common sense speaks more of your unwillingness to be honest in the discussion than it does disprove anything...
 
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j-mac said:
And you'll excuse me if I call bull **** on your claim "NO British Mosque..."
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Come on, man, listen to Andy. All Mosques in Britain are these magical, fairyland places filled with flowers and unicorns, and where everybody is taught to respect other cultures, honor people's differences, promote women's rights, protect gay people against bigotry and otherwise mold them into a being so perfect that it's really amazing how anybody could fail to notice.

If you diverge from this story line even in the slightest, the jackboot of political correctness will come down on you SO hard, you will not be tempted to misspeak ever again.

They do it to show their tolerance, you know.
 
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Montecresto said:
Not sure what that has to do with "deleted"?
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You obviously weren't fast enough....Unbelievable that you are dishonest enough to actually post this....
 
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