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Yes it is but you just can't/refuse to see it

By your logic the British should have ethnically cleansed Ireland because of the IRAs actions. Spain and France should have ethnically cleansed the basque region because of ETAs activity

Would you have supported these things ?
Getting rid of the troublemakers is always difficult. At this moment the biggest troublemakers in the world are the Islamofascists. It should be relatively easy to find them in England and to send them packing. Tear down the mosques or convert them to bars or strip clubs. When you throw out the trash the nation will feel better.
 
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Well, you see? The bolded is the joke in all this. If it were Christians we were discussing, the moderate Christians (which far outnumber the extremists) would not tolerate the extremist bull**** and savagery. They would put a stop to them like squashing bugs under their thumbs.

If the armies of Muslim countries were occupying the US and the European nations and slaughtering Christians en masse the situation would be exactly the same as it is now with Muslims.

And if you are going to talk of " moderates " I think it's important to understand what that term actually means

You will often hear that Saudi Arabia is a " moderate " Muslim state when in fact it is a vile and extremist Muslim state. Where homosexuality is a capital offence along with adultery , " sorcery " etc etc. " Moderate " in this context just translates as compliant to the wishes and actions of western governments or silent about the crimes they commit.
 
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Of course I can.

No you can't and you haven't. The quote you cited doesn't mention the rape of children at all. You are just taking advantage of the fact that I have no way of quoting myself from the thread I referred you to in which I clearly stated that the incidents of beheading journalists and the rape of children are crimes.

In response to the rape of children, you supported it by saying "Which only confirms the point I am making to you and others. You start killing people those people get angry"

Youre just lying because you can get away with it. The comment above was a response to why we are seeing the radicalisation of Muslims and had nothing to do with the raping of kids as you well know.

Your just a dishonest poster as the above clearly shows

BTW I noticed that you never even had the integrity to reply or to even mention the post I put up that referred to the rape and murder of a 14 year old Iraqi kid and the murder of her family , which included the murder of a younger child , by US soldiers during the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

What are we to learn from this ommission ?

That you think it's okay when US soldiers gang rape and murder kids. As they say in the states.......... busted .
 
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This beheading is not a problem... weird, sick, regrettable, gross, ... But not a significant problem.

Its an issue of scale. Bizarre murders happen all the time. Rapes happen all the time.

In the Netherlands(and to a lesser extent, in England), Rape by Muslims on non-muslim young girls has become an epidemic problem, and is openly claimed by the assailants to be part of a campaign of political/religious domination. It is RAPE being systematically used as a weapon!

If this beheading develops into a repeating pattern of attacks by Muslim Converts, it is a problem. Time will tell.

We should keep a wary eye, because of the beheadings happening by ISIS, and the threats made by that groups leadership, to take the battle to England, and other countries.

And it should be noted, Beheadings by ISIS, or Rapes of Nordic Girls, these evil behaviors are only being practiced by a subset of the Muslim population. Perhaps a LARGE subset, compared to other Religions wacko cults, but still a subgroup.

We will know whether Islam and be trusted and tolerated, when we see how the REST of Islam helps non-Muslim people stop the Rapes and possibly the Beheadings.

If the supposed "Good Muslims" won't work to extreme levels to stop that which is besmirching their Religion and Culture....

If you are a Christian, or a Progressive Atheist, or... And some group of wacko cultists who claim to be of your; Christianity, Progressive Atheists, or ... were going around Raping or Beheading in the name of your identity group, how much effort would you expend to END those bad actors immediately?

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When one allows one's enemies into one's midst what else is there to do? Isn't that amazing? Great Britain is a land of people with very small balls. Commit suicide if you like. Or boot the problem out of your country.

This is why the Brits lost their empire. One can be arrested for saying it is time to get rid of the source of the problem.

Unbelievable is right.

I'll remind you that an estimated 1.5 million British people took part in the anti war protests in this country prior to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. The biggest protests ever.

The complete dismissal by Blair and his acolytes , along with all the other major parties showed two things

Their complete contempt for democracy and the very overall humane nature of the British public.

Had their attempts to stop the upcoming slaughter in Iraq had of succeeded things would be very very different now. They were unsuccessful which has led to the situation in this country deteriorating since that time
 
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In the Netherlands(and to a lesser extent, in England), Rape by Muslims on non-muslim young girls has become an epidemic problem, and is openly claimed by the assailants to be part of a campaign of political/religious domination. It is RAPE being systematically used as a weapon!

Yes so claim the far right racists and neo Nazi parties.. reality is of course very different.

If the supposed "Good Muslims" won't work to extreme levels to stop that which is besmirching their Religion and Culture....

They do, but they are not in the media doing it.. big difference. Communities work with governments to stop and hunt down radicals. I mean did you get the memo about the Muslim Imans and their followers that demonstrated against ISIS? Or that Muslim leaders in the UK released a Fatwa against ISIS and any Brit that joins the group? Chances are you dont read about it.. but guess you could be lucky.

If you are a Christian, or a Progressive Atheist, or... And some group of wacko cultists who claim to be of your; Christianity, Progressive Atheists, or ... were going around Raping or Beheading in the name of your identity group, how much effort would you expend to END those bad actors immediately?

I would, but that aint how it works sadly. You have Christian religious cults abusing children on a daily basis but they are allowed to do so due to freedom of religion.

The Family-Family International-Children of God has been around since 1968 and is known for child abuse. Or the Church of Latter Day Saints cult which is also known for child abuse. Both are not being hunted to the ends of the earth.. in fact quite the opposite. There are many other cults or denominations of Christianity that do crazy things in the name of god and that leads to abuse, death and out right murder. It rarely gets in the news of course.
 
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I'll remind you that an estimated 1.5 million British people took part in the anti war protests in this country prior to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. The biggest protests ever.
I suppose that is one way for the boys to meet new girls.

The complete dismissal by Blair and his acolytes , along with all the other major parties showed two things

Their complete contempt for democracy and the very overall humane nature of the British public.
Sure. And prior to WWII many said they would refuse to fight Hitler. Perhaps your 1.5 million lefties simply fail to recognize evil when they see it. People like you (and your 1.5 million) have always existed.

Had their attempts to stop the upcoming slaughter in Iraq had of succeeded things would be very very different now. They were unsuccessful which has led to the situation in this country deteriorating since that time
Had your forces and ours stayed instead of cutting and running they also would have been very different.

Evil finds a way when good people do nothing. Obama lost Iraq.
Now it will take a new effort to regain Iraq and to finish the job in Syria.
 
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Yes so claim the far right racists and neo Nazi parties.. reality is of course very different.
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The BBC is not a Far Right Racist Neo Nazi Party?

BBC News - Rochdale grooming trial: Nine found guilty of child sex charges

8 May 2012 Last updated at 13:06 ET
Rochdale grooming trial: Nine found guilty of child sex charges

Nine men have been convicted of being part of a child sexual exploitation ring in Greater Manchester.

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The men, from Rochdale and Oldham, "groomed" girls, one as young as 13.

Liverpool Crown Court heard the men plied their victims with drink and drugs so they could "pass them around" and use them for sex.

The case, involving Asian defendants and white victims, sparked protests by far-right groups but police insist the grooming was not "racially motivated".

The offences which centred on Heywood included rape, trafficking girls for sex and conspiracy to engage

For a long while, the only groups reporting the Epidemic of Rape Violence by Muslims against non-Muslim girls were right leaning internet news groups:

Muslim Gang Rapes and the Left Blames Us

Epidemic: Muslims Sexually Enslaving Children as White Officials Turn Blind Eye Over

England sees epidemic of Muslim men committing pedophile gang rape.


But the problem has grown in scale and outrage until it can no longer be kept hidden by the MSM.

The Official Government of the Netherlands is now Acknowledging the Epidemic of Muslim Rapists:
Fjordman: The Norwegian Government - Covering Up Immigrant Rapes

The fact that you're using a debate tactic of smearing as "far right racists and neo Nazi parties" those who question the beheading incident as possibly.. Maybe... not sure, needs to be watched,.... a Muslim attack pattern, indicates there may be more beheadings to come, and it certainly lets U.S. all know were YOU are coming from!

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so there is one case.. maybe two. Hardly an epidemic compared to the Church abuse scandals and so called normal abuse cases we rarely hear about in the media.

For a long while, the only groups reporting the Epidemic of Rape Violence by Muslims against non-Muslim girls were right leaning internet news groups:

Muslim Gang Rapes and the Left Blames Us

Epidemic: Muslims Sexually Enslaving Children as White Officials Turn Blind Eye Over

England sees epidemic of Muslim men committing pedophile gang rape.

Yes and they are still spewing bull****. Funny how they dont go after the Church of Latter Day Saints eh? They have been grooming girls for decades..

But the problem has grown in scale and outrage until it can no longer be kept hidden by the MSM.

Hog wash. Only reason that it is in the media is that it is a relatively rare occurrence still and of course the normal islamophobia crap with the right wing media in the UK (most of the newspapers).
The Official Government of the Netherlands is now Acknowledging the Epidemic of Muslim Rapists:
Fjordman: The Norwegian Government - Covering Up Immigrant Rapes

Err you say Netherlands and link something about Norway? You do know it aint the same place right? And you link a far right blog in Norway? Plus if you look at the "numbers".. it is all in %... wanna know why? Because if they told the actual numbers, then people would say hmm. And of course they never mention when the rapes are falling.. as they did in 2008 and 2010..
 
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I suppose that is one way for the boys to meet new girls.

:lamo. One wonders about Alabama

Sure. And prior to WWII many said they would refuse to fight Hitler.

Like the US government did whilst some US corporate leaders openly assisted Nazi Germany

At a ceremony in Dearborn, Michigan, Henry Ford is presented with the Grand Cross of the Supreme Order of the German Eagle on his 75th birthday. Henry Ford is the first American recipient of this, an honor created a year earlier by Adolf Hitler. This is the highest honor Nazi Germany could give to any foreigner and represents Adolf Hitler’s personal admiration and indebtedness to Henry Ford.

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Henry Ford receiving the Grand Cross of the German Eagle from Nazi officials, 1938

Apologies for the size of the picture , I don't know how to reduce it

Funny old world isn't it

Perhaps your 1.5 million lefties simply fail to recognize evil when they see it. People like you (and your 1.5 million) have always existed.

They were from every walk of life and every political persuasion.( Islamophobes excluded ) Just ordinary people that did recognize evil when they saw it

Had your forces and ours stayed instead of cutting and running they also would have been very different.

Had they not been forced to invade , illegally imo , things would be better than they are now for both Iraqis and Europeans

Evil finds a way when good people do nothing.

I agree , and the millions of people that joined those protests around the world are the very people you are referring to. What did you do btw ?
Obama lost Iraq.

Really ? And like you had a right to be there in the first place ?

The Bush Administration later sought an agreement with the Iraqi government, and in 2008 George W. Bush signed the U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement. It included a deadline of 31 December 2011, before which "all the United States Forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory".

Withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now it will take a new effort to regain Iraq and to finish the job in Syria.

More slaughters and more trouble in the future for everyone. What a good idea
 
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Yes it is but you just can't/refuse to see it

By your logic the British should have ethnically cleansed Ireland because of the IRAs actions. Spain and France should have ethnically cleansed the basque region because of ETAs activity

Would you have supported these things ?

What I support is lawful society, where the law is applied consistently, and no cultural group is excused of barbarity just because they have historically been barbaric, and because people think they owe some sort of deference.
 
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When one allows one's enemies into one's midst what else is there to do? Isn't that amazing? Great Britain is a land of people with very small balls. Commit suicide if you like. Or boot the problem out of your country.

This is why the Brits lost their empire. One can be arrested for saying it is time to get rid of the source of the problem.

Unbelievable is right.

We lost our empire because we got bled dry fighting the Nazis for 6 years. Worth pointing out as well we have fought in Korea, the Falklands, both gulf wars, Afghanistan and the Baklands. in fact we have lost a solider every year sjnce WW2 so do me a favour and cut the small balls comments. Last time I checked the most successful terrorist attack ever happened in your homeland, its been over 10 years and these group's are still going strong.
 
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Have you compared England today to what England used to be say in early 1980?

He might have to ask his parents about that one. ......Provided they had moved to Britain by then.


For all I know you are an Islamofascist supporter.

He has made it quite clear where his sympathies lie.
 
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We lost our empire because we got bled dry fighting the Nazis for 6 years. Worth pointing out as well we have fought in Korea, the Falklands, both gulf wars, Afghanistan and the Baklands. in fact we have lost a solider every year sjnce WW2 so do me a favour and cut the small balls comments. Last time I checked the most successful terrorist attack ever happened in your homeland, its been over 10 years and these group's are still going strong.

Perhaps we can all just agree that the size of the balls varies.

You have them. Gunner has them. For some others, however, it looks like they have not descended as of yet.
 
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The BBC is not a Far Right Racist Neo Nazi Party?

BBC News - Rochdale grooming trial: Nine found guilty of child sex charges



For a long while, the only groups reporting the Epidemic of Rape Violence by Muslims against non-Muslim girls were right leaning internet news groups:

Muslim Gang Rapes and the Left Blames Us

Epidemic: Muslims Sexually Enslaving Children as White Officials Turn Blind Eye Over

England sees epidemic of Muslim men committing pedophile gang rape.


But the problem has grown in scale and outrage until it can no longer be kept hidden by the MSM.

The Official Government of the Netherlands is now Acknowledging the Epidemic of Muslim Rapists:
Fjordman: The Norwegian Government - Covering Up Immigrant Rapes

The fact that you're using a debate tactic of smearing as "far right racists and neo Nazi parties" those who question the beheading incident as possibly.. Maybe... not sure, needs to be watched,.... a Muslim attack pattern, indicates there may be more beheadings to come, and it certainly lets U.S. all know were YOU are coming from!

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Omg, that is what their ****ing press is calling Asian? Seriously? No wonder none of this makes sense. They wont even be honest about who and what they are dealing with.
 
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Omg, that is what their ****ing press is calling Asian? Seriously? No wonder none of this makes sense. They wont even be honest about who and what they are dealing with.

Yep. It's almost as if they think it is Chinese, Japanese, and Indochinese are doing this.

As Orwell said, "In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

Britain needs more revolutionaries, by the looks of it -- real revolutionaries instead of all the childish leftist poseurs wearing their little fashion Keffiyehs and che teeshirts, offering up their quenelle salutes and mouthing every stupid terrorist platitude under the misapprehension that their doing so actually makes them look intelligent instead of so repulsively stupid.
 
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What I support is lawful society, where the law is applied consistently, and no cultural group is excused of barbarity just because they have historically been barbaric, and because people think they owe some sort of deference.

I too agree with upholding the law and I am disgusted by the reports in the media concerning the actions of the police and others with regards to these cases.

A paedophile ring is a paedophile ring and they all should be hunted down/broken up/jailed in order to protect children from their sickening abuses.

What I object to is the use of such events to incite people to commit other crimes against people based on their race/religion. People will be attacked that are neither paedophiles nor Islamic extremists.

The man that is the subject of the opening post had imo , and judging from the available information , lost the plot for whatever reasons. He was apparently attacking peope he knew and blaming cats for taking his lighter. That some people try to use this dreadful incident to incite racial hatred within the community is a base and sickening exploitation of the events for their own agenda. An agenda that will in all likelihood lead to further attacks on people who are just going about their daily business and harming nobody.

If people point this out the same people then claim them to be " supporters " of the mans actions and/or Islamic extremists and indulge in a whole array of baseless slurs . That's insane ,imo , and shows how warped they really are

BTW the part I highlighted in your post suggests to me that you have the same agenda as the people I am referring to in the above. The truth , as I see it , is that all peoples have a " barbaric history " and I think the historical record confirms that
 
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What I object to is the use of such events to incite people to commit other crimes against people based on their race/religion.

So, THAT'S why you have justified Islamast terrorism time after time after freaking time by calling them the victims and saying we are the ones responsible, instead.

It's because you have that finely tuned moral compass that worries so much about innocent victims. :roll:
 
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So, THAT'S why you have justified Islamast terrorism time after time after freaking time by calling them the victims and saying we are the ones responsible, instead.

Trying to understand why people commit crimes is way way different from their " justifying " them , which isn't what I have done in any case. As I said about the nutters who killed Lee Rigby , they told the world why they did it.

Whilst I completely disagree with their actions, I'm not in denial enough to understand that what one poster glibly dismissed as " our Middle Eastern jaunts " is playing a huge role in radicalising Muslims around the world to commit such atrocities in the first place.

Apparently you are
 
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Trying to understand why people commit crimes is way way different from their " justifying " them , which isn't what I have done in any case. As I said about the nutters who killed Lee Rigby , they told the world why they did it.

Whilst I completely disagree with their actions, I'm not in denial enough to understand that what one poster glibly dismissed as " our Middle Eastern jaunts " is playing a huge role in radicalising Muslims around the world to commit such atrocities in the first place.

Apparently you are

You are NOT trying to understand, you are merely excusing their behavior and parroting their points of view.

What drives them is their supremacist ideology -- an ideology that demands they force everybody to submit to it. That is what drives them. Everything else is just a bunch of stupid hogwash sold to useful idiots who haven't the intelligence or common sense necessary to call them on it.
 
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You are NOT trying to understand, you are merely excusing their behavior and parroting their points of view.

What drives them is their supremacist ideology -- an ideology that demands they force everybody to submit to it. That is what drives them. Everything else is just a bunch of stupid hogwash sold to useful idiots who haven't the intelligence or common sense necessary to call them on it.

There's no talking with you people. You are as extreme as the very people you have a witch hunt against , you just don't realize it
 
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You will often hear that Saudi Arabia is a " moderate " Muslim state when in fact it is a vile and extremist Muslim state. Where homosexuality is a capital offence along with adultery , " sorcery " etc etc. " Moderate " in this context just translates as compliant to the wishes and actions of western governments or silent about the crimes they commit.

I don't consider SA moderate at all. The difference is, what SA does within their own country is their problem to deal with. It's the immigration to western democratic societies, with an expectation that those societies should make special allowances for their backwards cultural practices, that is problematic. I don't care what they do to each other in their own countries. Muslims have been each others' enemies for hundreds of years now. Bloodshed is nothing new, and tribalism is still the rule.
 
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There's no talking with you people. You are as extreme as the very people you have a witch hunt against , you just don't realize it

You keep referring to "you people". Which are the "you people"?

The adults? People with a triple digit IQ? People from western culture?
 
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I don't consider SA moderate at all.

Neither do I but that doesn't change what I stated

The difference is, what SA does within their own country is their problem to deal with. It's the immigration to western democratic societies, with an expectation that those societies should make special allowances for their backwards cultural practices, that is problematic.

But they don't just keep to themselves do they ?

These were the very leaders that were assisting ISIS in Syria . In fact when you do a little research they export their extreme version of Islam to other places and have done for years'., Read up on the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan for example.

I don't care what they do to each other in their own countries. Muslims have been each others' enemies for hundreds of years now. Bloodshed is nothing new, and tribalism is still the rule.

So have everyone else. A fact you refuse to accept
 
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