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Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

I saw it. You liked a post that called for the legalization of slaughtering Jews.

There is a British Islamist here who specializes in calling people liars for telling the truth. Seems a familiar M.O., since Montecresto did the same thing as does the British Islamist.

It's a familiar agitprop technique where the constant barrage of accusations that the other people is lying is conducted to distract away from one's own.
 
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And there you have it... by the restrictions placed on the British Press, by their equivalent of the FCC, they cannot blanket refer to Muslim Immigrants who start trouble as Radical Muslims.

But, if he is a British born subject, who was lead by his conversion to Islam, to acts of violence against the British people, they are still allowed to comment in headlines on his Religion.

As I understand the way the interpretation of the legal restriction works, if investigative journalism shows that there is likely a link between the Religion of Islam and the Acts which lead to the event being news worthy, then the press can include the word "Muslim".

i.e. If a person uses an illegal Firearm to commit a bank robbery, and he also happens to be an Immigrant Member of Hamas, who smuggled the weapon into Britain, using his connections with Radical Islam, until it is established by investigation by BOTH Law Enforcement authorities and investigative journalists, they are not allowed to put the word "Muslim" in the Headlines or the story.

Until then, it is just a story of an Armed Bank Robbery.

The very fact that the BBC is now reporting the conversion to Islam means that the threshold has been reached.

Understand, the vast majority of the non-Muslim British Population don't like the restrictions placed on the press, and given the tendency for British press to be sensational, loose with facts, and salacious, it would become a Muslim Bashing free-for-all without the restrictions, and everyone knows it!

At least, this is how it has been explained to me by a co-worker who is British.

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Well, in this specific case no link has been established between his religion and his actions, the police have gone out of their way to state that there is no terrorist link whatsoever and still most of the British press, except the BBC, were quick to use the word Muslim anyway. Muslim and beheading in the same headline sell lots and lots of papers. :peace
 
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That's your evidence? Rejected.

It is not presented as "Evidence".

It is presented as Information, an you are free to ignore it, or confirm it with your own research.

It sheds light on what may be happening on the story in so far as the rather odd and vague press reporting. It is why we have limited information.

It does not directly affect the nature of the story itself.

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Well, in this specific case no link has been established between his religion and his actions, the police have gone out of their way to state that there is no terrorist link whatsoever and still most of the British press, except the BBC, were quick to use the word Muslim anyway. Muslim and beheading in the same headline sell lots and lots of papers. :peace

As if Britain is having any issues with non Muslims beheading people :roll:

The relationship between the religion and the the action IS the beheading.
 
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Well, in this specific case no link has been established between his religion and his actions, the police have gone out of their way to state that there is no terrorist link whatsoever and still most of the British press, except the BBC, were quick to use the word Muslim anyway. Muslim and beheading in the same headline sell lots and lots of papers. :peace

If there wasn't sufficient evidence to a link, the press involved could loose their licenses, or so I am told by my British friend who I am texting with on the subject.

Evidently, they take that sort of violation of the press restrictions as a sort of violation of Diplomatic Immunity and International Provocation of violence, and violations can include jail time.

P.S. And be considered an Act of Treason.

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Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

Well, in this specific case no link has been established between his religion and his actions, the police have gone out of their way to state that there is no terrorist link whatsoever and still most of the British press, except the BBC, were quick to use the word Muslim anyway. Muslim and beheading in the same headline sell lots and lots of papers. :peace

There never seems to be a definite link between all these beheadings and Muslims. That they are usually called a variation of 'Mohammed' doesn't seem to suggest a correlation either. It's just a lot of random crazy people following a wacky trend who are, otherwise, quite ordinary people.

Of course there are others, quite apart from the British police, who say beheading an elderly woman is terrorism, whether there is a 'terrorist link' or not. What link is required before the police will call it 'terrorism'? Aren't the neighbors response to this horrible act sufficient evidence enough?
 
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It is not presented as "Evidence".

So you don't actually have a claim, you're just rambling on about hearsay?
 
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Muslim guy gets into a drug dispute with another guy and shoots him -- making it a Muslim issue is bogus.

Muslim guy robs a store and shoots the clerk, making it a Muslim issue is bogus.

Muslim guy BEHEADS an old woman -- bringing in the Muslim issue is entirely relevant.

Seems pretty obvious to me what would actually be sensationalist and what is not.
 
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What link is required before the police will call it 'terrorism'??

Probably a lot more than it took to consider 1400 underage girls anything but sluts.
 
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So you don't actually have a claim, you're just rambling on about hearsay?

I am trying to put an accurate international perspective on the news report in the OP.

If you feel it necessary to research the veracity of what I am stating, feel free to do so...

If you find direct evidence that what I am stating is not accurate, please let me know.

I would be surprised, my British friend is a down-to-earth, honest, level headed fellow.

Understand that the British People's attitude and laws surround the press on stories which have an International/Diplomatic context is MUCH different than the Freedom of the Press given to American MSM, before the American Restrictions and Government Intimidation of Obama Era.

To the British people, during their time as a World Wide Colonial Empire with the majority of their nation's wealth coming from being the Merchant Marine Haulers of International Cargos, in that time, the wrong few words to an explosive diplomatic issue, could result is a Nation Threatening loss of Maritime Income.

The Brits, due to their Colonial Past, partly due to America's Rebellion and Secession, have a very different view on Freedom of the Press in certain, select areas.

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There never seems to be a definite link between all these beheadings and Muslims. That they are usually called a variation of 'Mohammed' doesn't seem to suggest a correlation either. It's just a lot of random crazy people following a wacky trend who are, otherwise, quite ordinary people.

Of course there are others, quite apart from the British police, who say beheading an elderly woman is terrorism, whether there is a 'terrorist link' or not. What link is required before the police will call it 'terrorism'? Aren't the neighbors response to this horrible act sufficient evidence enough?

You need to clarify what you mean by "all these beheadings". Are you talking about the recent beheadings by ISIS? That is international terrorism. Only a fool would deny that. They were cold-blooded acts, carried out specifically to instill fear and threaten the West in general and the United States in particular.

As for the poor old woman in London, if you want to include that under the terrorism umbrella, you're free to do so. Until more information comes to light, the man is a frootloop in my eyes.
 
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If there wasn't sufficient evidence to a link, the press involved could loose their licenses, or so I am told by my British friend who I am texting with on the subject.

Evidently, they take that sort of violation of the press restrictions as a sort of violation of Diplomatic Immunity and International Provocation of violence, and violations can include jail time.

P.S. And be considered an Act of Treason.

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To be fair they're not calling it a terror attack, they're just emphasizing the perp's religion in the headlines, so your friend may be right.
 
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I am trying to put an accurate international perspective on the news report in the OP.

No you're not. You're babbling BS hearsay in attempt to paint a false picture. You made a claim, someone crushed it and now you run to ~"but my friend said". Do not expect anyone to respect that.
 
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I am trying to put an accurate international perspective on the news report in the OP.

If you feel it necessary to research the veracity of what I am stating, feel free to do so...

If you find direct evidence that what I am stating is not accurate, please let me know.

I would be surprised, my British friend is a down-to-earth, honest, level headed fellow.

Understand that the British People's attitude and laws surround the press on stories which have an International/Diplomatic context is MUCH different than the Freedom of the Press given to American MSM, before the American Restrictions and Government Intimidation of Obama Era.

To the British people, during their time as a World Wide Colonial Empire with the majority of their nation's wealth coming from being the Merchant Marine Haulers of International Cargos, in that time, the wrong few words to an explosive diplomatic issue, could result is a Nation Threatening loss of Maritime Income.

The Brits, due to their Colonial Past, partly due to America's Rebellion and Secession, have a very different view on Freedom of the Press in certain, select areas.

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Most of my Brit friends are now living in Australia and New Zealand but their response is one of outrage and embarrassment also.
 
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Most of my Brit friends are now living in Australia and New Zealand but their response is one of outrage and embarrassment also.

Even if the guy proves to be nothing but a madman, the act was outrageous and embarrassing.

If nothing else, the British are well known for their sense of decorum and reserve, this sort of thing is shocking and quite embarrassing to them as a people. My heart goes out to them.

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It is time for the Brits to do some Islamist cleansing. Destroy the mosques. Kill the Imams and other clerics. The rest can emigrate or be pushed into the ocean. Give them a week to choose.

Or re-arm the populace and declare a hunting season on male Islamists.

I can't believe that that you are allowed to post in this thread after advocating the ethnic cleansing of British Muslims.

I don't know what the laws are in America but in the UK I think you would find yourself under arrest for posting such disgusting comments and rightly so , you should be ashamed of yourself

Unbeliveable !!
 
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You need to clarify what you mean by "all these beheadings". Are you talking about the recent beheadings by ISIS? That is international terrorism. Only a fool would deny that. They were cold-blooded acts, carried out specifically to instill fear and threaten the West in general and the United States in particular.
All these decapitations are 'international' in the sense that the religion of peace always seems to play a role, and that might be in Asia, Africa, Europe or anywhere. Just because one happens in a leafy London suburb and another in Central Africa or the ME, doesn't mean there isn't an international connection, despite them not being on Youtube.

As for the poor old woman in London, if you want to include that under the terrorism umbrella, you're free to do so. Until more information comes to light, the man is a frootloop in my eyes.
They are all frootloops. That's the point. To describe human beings decapitating innocent others defines loopy. And worse!

All of this, whether it happens in Beslan, Kenya, China, Madrid, Munich, Boston, and so on, are all related to the R of P. Of course I'm not with the highly regarded London Constabulary and this is just my non-professional opinion so I could be wrong. But how likely is that??
 
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It is time for the Brits to do some Islamist cleansing. Destroy the mosques. Kill the Imams and other clerics. The rest can emigrate or be pushed into the ocean. Give them a week to choose.

Or re-arm the populace and declare a hunting season on male Islamists.

Ok, Haman.
 
Re: Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden

Muslim guy gets into a drug dispute with another guy and shoots him -- making it a Muslim issue is bogus.



Muslim guy robs a store and shoots the clerk, making it a Muslim issue is bogus.



Muslim guy BEHEADS an old woman -- bringing in the Muslim issue is entirely relevant




Seems pretty obvious to me what would actually be sensationalist and what is not.

Maybe we're just a tad more realistic and less bigoted. The man was beheading cats because they allegedly took his lighter if you recall.

Maybe we just think the man had lost the plot which is entirely relevant regardless of any religious preferences but you people have your own agenda that turns a blind eye to such information
 
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I can't believe that that you are allowed to post in this thread after advocating the ethnic cleansing of British Muslims.

I don't know what the laws are in America but in the UK I think you would find yourself under arrest for posting such disgusting comments and rightly so , you should be ashamed of yourself

Unbeliveable !!
There are many Brits mumbling to each other that this may be the only solution unless the police start cracking down on militant Islamists. A civil war possibly breaking out in several western European countries is being openly discussed. Our personal opinions may run second to the strength of their convictions.
 
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There are many Brits mumbling to each other that this may be the only solution unless the police start cracking down on militant Islamists. A civil war possibly breaking out in several western European countries is being openly discussed. Our personal opinions may run second to the strength of their convictions.

"Militant Islamists " are a tiny proportion of the British Muslim population most of which are just going about their daily lives like everyone else here. That you people completely disregard this is to your detriment imo

As I stated in another thread , if you want to stop the spread of radicalized Islam in Europe or anywhere else then you should recognize what exactly it is that is behind their radicalisation
 
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"Militant Islamists " are a tiny proportion of the British Muslim population most of which are just going about their daily lives like everyone else here. That you people completely disregard this is to your detriment imo
That has never been overlooked and is not worth mentioning, though I see where many feel the need.
As I stated in another thread , if you want to stop the spread of radicalized Islam in Europe or anywhere else then you should recognize what exactly it is that is behind their radicalisation
And will you share that reason with us? It could be important.
 
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All these decapitations are 'international' in the sense that the religion of peace always seems to play a role, and that might be in Asia, Africa, Europe or anywhere. Just because one happens in a leafy London suburb and another in Central Africa or the ME, doesn't mean there isn't an international connection, despite them not being on Youtube.

They are all frootloops. That's the point. To describe human beings decapitating innocent others defines loopy. And worse!

All of this, whether it happens in Beslan, Kenya, China, Madrid, Munich, Boston, and so on, are all related to the R of P. Of course I'm not with the highly regarded London Constabulary and this is just my non-professional opinion so I could be wrong. But how likely is that??

I'm not so sure that any defense attorney could get away with the insanity defense when it comes to the ISIS beheadings. Those people are not crazy, Grant. They are perfectly aware of the consequences and the meaning of their actions. The guy in London, however, open and shut insanity case. Unless other details come to light that what he did was a deliberate and premeditated terrorist attack in the name of some jihad or other.
 
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There is no confusion because it is irrelevant. Only ones that find it relevant are anti-Muslim right wingers wanting to fan the flames of hatred towards the Muslim minority. The evidence we know so far, clearly points to a very disturbed individual shouting about cats, decapitating cats before he killed this woman. Fact is that we dont know his religion, as the "muslim" tag came from a "neighborhood source" in a right wing anti-Muslim rag. His name does not scream Muslim for one.

When it comes to beheadings, deranged non-muslims are the extreme exception to the rule, aren't they. It's like... "Hey everybody, check this out! A beheading that wasn't done by a Muslim!!!!!" ;)
 
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If he is not 'ratting out', as you say, he is not a 'moderate'.

Shows your understanding of 1.3 billion Muslims.
 
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