Woman beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden[W:335:480]

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Grant said:

Sometimes the facts have a way of becoming anti Muslim. 'Nigerian Muslim Convert' Held by Police After North London Beheading

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Yes facts.. ... an amazing article you linked there... utterly biased and lacking facts.

Funny how the article does not mention his hame, and funny how you dont either. Could it be that by naming him, you basically destroy the whole "Muslim Nigerian" bit and the ability to blame Islam again?

For the record, his name is Nicholas Salvadore. Not exactly a very Nigerian. Also amazing how in the article linked twists the facts and barely mentions that the suspect was acting crazy the whole time, and only mentions the who cat thing at the very end. A total biased piece of bull**** journalism.

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Papa bull said:

The Muslim extremists are deranged very sick individuals, too. I'm not surprised there's some confusion about whether this sick bastard was a Muslim or not.

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There is no confusion because it is irrelevant. Only ones that find it relevant are anti-Muslim right wingers wanting to fan the flames of hatred towards the Muslim minority. The evidence we know so far, clearly points to a very disturbed individual shouting about cats, decapitating cats before he killed this woman. Fact is that we dont know his religion, as the "muslim" tag came from a "neighborhood source" in a right wing anti-Muslim rag. His name does not scream Muslim for one.

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TurtleDude said:

More anti American crapola.

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Oh? Have you even been looking at the news the last many years? Police killings happen often and often the suspects are unarmed. Ferguson is a good example, where we clearly saw the police being untrained in basic policing.

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zoetherat said:

All I know is, when an American cop finds out that a child is being raped, he tries to stop it.That alone makes American cops a hundred times better then British ones.

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And this is in relevance to what?

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The British Press will not refer to a person as a Muslim, they find direct mention of the religion too confrontational.

Proper British Press Decorum insists on referring to what the American Press would call Radical Muslims as "Asians".

So if you're going to do a google search trying to find additional details use the words "Distraught Asian" and you'll likely find the story.

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Simon Feltser said:

A 25-year-old man was arrested in connection with the death of a woman who was reportedly beheaded in the back garden of a North London home on Thursday afternoon. Officers used a Taser to apprehend the suspect, who is being treated at a hospital for injuries, according to Huffington Post UK. One officer also suffered a broken wrist, police said in a statement.
Woman reportedly beheaded in broad daylight in a London garden - The Washington Post

Well, it`s terrible. And we don`t know wether it was the attack terror-related or not. And another point in this: "officers used a taser to apprehend the suspect". I note that this is a dangerous criminal, rather than a simple thief. Why do our policemen shoot-to-kill in any situation?

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A) Our officers don't shoot to kill in "any" situation. They shoot to kill in appropriate situations, for the most part.
B) You never shoot to wound. Shooting to kill is hard enough. It's much harder than people think to actually hit a moving human being with a shot from a pistol at even a close distance (7-10 yards).
C) Tasers are used extensively in the US.
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/232215.pdf

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PeteEU said:

Oh? Have you even been looking at the news the last many years? Police killings happen often and often the suspects are unarmed. Ferguson is a good example, where we clearly saw the police being untrained in basic policing.

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I don't think you are in a position to claim the officer was untrained at this point of the inquiry

first of all, the facts are not in

secondly, I haven't seen anything in your posts that demonstrate you are a expert on this issue

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Higgins86 said:

Thats not true...

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I just left there and it absolutely is true. There are specialized units with guns but 90 pct of the officers do not

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Kurmugeon said:

The British Press will not refer to a person as a Muslim, they find direct mention of the religion too confrontational.

Proper British Press Decorum insists on referring to what the American Press would call Radical Muslims as "Asians".

So if you're going to do a google search trying to find additional details use the words "Distraught Asian" and you'll likely find the story.

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I don't know what you're reading, but all the articles from several different British news sources I've read so far all mention the possibility of him being a Muslim convert. One of them, admittedly the trashiest tabloid in the UK, even put it on its front page in massive huge letters. :shrug:

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Grant said:

The left will never catch on to irony - or sarcasm.

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Yes, you sure have a point there. That is why there are so many funny conservative comedians.....

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PeteEU said:

This was a deranged guy.. he was running around shouting about cats. It is tragic as hell, but it was not terror but just a very sick individual gone nuts. Of course that does not stop the Newscorp empire from making this into an anti Muslim story.. but hey!

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IMO, a person that goes around cutting of another persons head IS a "deranged guy". Does it really matter if he is yelling about cats or extrem religious view points?

I guess it's just me... but, IMO, anyone that cuts off anothers head is "a very sick individual gone nuts."



Of course that does not stop some individuals from making a beheading by a converted Muslim into a don't pick on the poor Muslims story.. but hey!

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Gardener said:

I meant "like"

Thanks is the way it used to read.

You thanked a post that was about the most thoroughly revolting piece of ethnic hatred ever seen in this forum.

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You still haven't shown it.

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Ockham said:

Moderately and peacefully inform authorities who are not extremists. Duh.

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Oh, ok. That will solve extremism.

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Arcana XV said:

I don't know what you're reading, but all the articles from several different British news sources I've read so far all mention the possibility of him being a Muslim convert. One of them, admittedly the trashiest tabloid in the UK, even put it on its front page in massive huge letters. :shrug:

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I never said this particular attack was an "Distraught Asian".

What I said, was that if you go looking for a British Press Story, as a follow up for more detail, and you search for the location, beheading, and Radical Muslim, you won't find anything. Not because the story doesn't exist, but because the British Press deliberately uses Code Words for Radical Muslims.

I don't know yet who the attacker was, or his motivations.

But I know you won't see it listed in the British press as a Muslim Attack, they never say it that way.

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Montecresto said:

You still haven't shown it.

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That is only because it now resides in a section of the forum I cannot link to up here.

People can find it if they wish, however, and they will know you are telling a lie -- or perhaps it should be called Taqiyya, who knows?.

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Montecresto said:

Oh, ok. That will solve extremism.

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It will certainly reduce it. But I'm sure doing nothing is a MUCH better idea.

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Ockham said:

It will certainly reduce it. But I'm sure doing nothing is a MUCH better idea.

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I'm sure that moderate Muslims haven't any control over extremist Muslims. I can tell you this, US policies in the ME are facilitating militant Islamic groups. Or do you think Obama has been successful there?

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Montecresto said:

I'm sure that moderate Muslims haven't any control over extremist Muslims. I can tell you this, US policies in the ME are facilitating militant Islamic groups. Or do you think Obama has been successful there?

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Control is irrelevant - it's knowledge. I'm sure some moderate Muslims know about extremists - information is power.

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Ockham said:

Control is irrelevant - it's knowledge. I'm sure some moderate Muslims know about extremists - information is power.

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You can certainly make that speculation. However, you think a moderate peaceful Muslim is going to be ratting out an extremist that cuts people's heads off?

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Montecresto said:

You still haven't shown it.

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Do you deny what he's saying?

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Montecresto said:

You can certainly make that speculation. However, you think a moderate peaceful Muslim is going to be ratting out an extremist that cuts people's heads off?

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If he is not 'ratting out', as you say, he is not a 'moderate'.

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Kurmugeon said:

I never said this particular attack was an "Distraught Asian".

What I said, was that if you go looking for a British Press Story, as a follow up for more detail, and you search for the location, beheading, and Radical Muslim, you won't find anything. Not because the story doesn't exist, but because the British Press deliberately uses Code Words for Radical Muslims.

I don't know yet who the attacker was, or his motivations.

But I know you won't see it listed in the British press as a Muslim Attack, they never say it that way.

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Woman beheaded: 'Muslim convert' known as Fat Nick suspected of slaughtering grandmother pictured for first time - Crime - News - London Evening Standard

Nick Salvadore, suspect for beheading of Palmira Silva, is would-be cage-fighter and Muslim convert - Telegraph

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Montecresto said:

You still haven't shown it.

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I saw it. You liked a post that called for the legalization of slaughtering Jews.

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Arcana XV said:

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Woman beheaded: 'Muslim convert' known as Fat Nick suspected of slaughtering grandmother pictured for first time - Crime - News - London Evening Standard

Nick Salvadore, suspect for beheading of Palmira Silva, is would-be cage-fighter and Muslim convert - Telegraph

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And there you have it... by the restrictions placed on the British Press, by their equivalent of the FCC, they cannot blanket refer to Muslim Immigrants who start trouble as Radical Muslims.

But, if he is a British born subject, who was lead by his conversion to Islam, to acts of violence against the British people, they are still allowed to comment in headlines on his Religion.

As I understand the way the interpretation of the legal restriction works, if investigative journalism shows that there is likely a link between the Religion of Islam and the Acts which lead to the event being news worthy, then the press can include the word "Muslim".

i.e. If a person uses an illegal Firearm to commit a bank robbery, and he also happens to be an Immigrant Member of Hamas, who smuggled the weapon into Britain, using his connections with Radical Islam, until it is established by investigation by BOTH Law Enforcement authorities and investigative journalists, they are not allowed to put the word "Muslim" in the Headlines or the story.

Until then, it is just a story of an Armed Bank Robbery.

The very fact that the BBC is now reporting the conversion to Islam means that the threshold has been reached.

Understand, the vast majority of the non-Muslim British Population don't like the restrictions placed on the press, and given the tendency for British press to be sensational, loose with facts, and salacious, it would become a Muslim Bashing free-for-all without the restrictions, and everyone knows it!

At least, this is how it has been explained to me by a co-worker who is British.

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Kurmugeon said:

At least, this is how it has been explained to me by a co-worker who is British.

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That's your evidence? Rejected.