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Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack [W:222]

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A U.S. security team in Benghazi was held back from immediately responding to the attack on the American diplomatic mission on orders of the top CIA officer there, three of those involved told Fox News’ Bret Baier.

Their account gives a dramatic new turn to what the Obama administration and its allies would like to dismiss as an “old story” – the September 11, 2012 Benghazi attacks that killed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

Speaking out publicly for the first time, the three were security operators at the secret CIA annex in Benghazi – in effect, the first-responders to any attack on the diplomatic compound. Their first-hand account will be told in a Fox News special, airing Friday night at 10 p.m. (EDT).
Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack, US security team members claim | Fox News

So, I guess there was a stand down order. Did congress talk to these guys? Was the order justified? This new evidence appears to contradict the left wing talking points.
 
So, I guess there was a stand down order. Did congress talk to these guys? Was the order justified? This new evidence appears to contradict the left wing talking points.

Heya J5. :2wave: Did Gowdy take any of these guys Depositions? Is that why this is coming out.....due to others taking Depositions? Gowdy should call Hillary in for hers.....force her to make decision and show the American people if she will show or wont.
 
Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team say

Interesting.

A U.S. security team in Benghazi was held back from immediately responding to the attack on the American diplomatic mission on orders of the top CIA officer there, three of those involved told Fox News’ Bret Baier.

Their account gives a dramatic new turn to what the Obama administration and its allies would like to dismiss as an “old story” – the September 11, 2012 Benghazi attacks that killed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

Speaking out publicly for the first time, the three were security operators at the secret CIA annex in Benghazi – in effect, the first-responders to any attack on the diplomatic compound. Their first-hand account will be told in a Fox News special, airing Friday night at 10 p.m. (EDT)....


“We're starting to get calls from the State Department guys saying, ‘Hey, we're taking fire, we need you guys here, we need help,’” said Paronto.
After a delay of nearly 30 minutes, the security team headed to the besieged consulate without orders. They asked their CIA superiors to call for armed air support, which never came.
Now, looking back, the security team said they believed that if they had not been delayed for nearly half an hour, or if the air support had come, things might have turned out differently....

In the special, Baier also asks about the infamous YouTube video that was blamed for the violence in Benghazi.
Paronto laughed at the suggestion that the video played any role in the events of that night, saying he did not even know of the video until he was out of Libya and on his way home. “I didn't know about the video ‘till I got to Germany,” he said. “(I had) no idea about any video, no. No, sir.”...


So... IOW, we now have the confirmation from the people on the ground that there was indeed at least a local stand-down order (who sought to shut down the higher-tier organizations, and what happened with the guys who apparently eventually went rogue and went anyway we'll have to wait to find out), and that the idea that this was somehow a youtube video was indeed apparently a Washington DC fiction designed to cover a President in the middle of reelection.
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

Interesting.



So... IOW, we now have the confirmation from the people on the ground that there was indeed at least a local stand-down order (who sought to shut down the higher-tier organizations, and what happened with the guys who apparently eventually went rogue and went anyway we'll have to wait to find out), and that the idea that this was somehow a youtube video was indeed apparently a Washington DC fiction designed to cover a President in the middle of reelection.[/FONT]

Interesting ?

So there was a stand down ordered on 9-11-12.

I wonder who was on the other end of the phone when they were ordered to stand down ?
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

New information nobody has heard before, Fox News exclusive, and coincidentally there's a book coming out. Written by the guy breaking out this new information. You'd better buy that book to find out what really happened!

They were ready to go, but got held back by the Top CIA Chief In Benghazi.

Bob.
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

New information nobody has heard before, Fox News exclusive, and coincidentally there's a book coming out. Written by the guy breaking out this new information. You'd better buy that book to find out what really happened!

They were ready to go, but got held back by the Top CIA Chief In Benghazi.

Bob.

That CIA chief was on the phone with some one else just before issuing the stand down order.

Who could it have been ? Valerie Jarrett ?

I doubt it was Obama, he was upstairs in the White House packing for Vegas and rehearsing his speech that Al Qaeda was being decimated and was on the run.
 
Let's put this "breaking news" into perspective...

U.S. security team = 3 CIA operatives at the CIA annex building in Benghazi.

Unless those guys had shoulder held rocket launchers, I doubt they would've make a difference against the mob that attacked the U.S. Embassy or the compound in Benghazi. Nonetheless, I know that this "revelation" comes as a feather in the cap of those who are clinging to something substantial to hang around the President's neck concerning Benghazi, but this, IMHO, isn't it. Sorry, but 3 CIA operatives do not make a U.S. security team. They're just 3 guys with 9mm hand guns against 20-50 radicals with semi-automatic riffles and rocket launchers.
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

I posted the following in the http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...nghazi-delayed-response-terrorist-attack.html thread.

Let's put this "breaking news" into perspective...

U.S. security team = 3 CIA operatives at the CIA annex building in Benghazi.

Unless those guys had shoulder held rocket launchers, I doubt they would've make a difference against the mob that attacked the U.S. Embassy or the compound in Benghazi. Nonetheless, I know that this "revelation" comes as a feather in the cap of those who are clinging to something substantial to hang around the President's neck concerning Benghazi, but this, IMHO, isn't it. Sorry, but 3 CIA operatives do not make a U.S. security team. They're just 3 guys with 9mm hand guns against 20-50 radicals with semi-automatic riffles and rocket launchers.

I'll add to the above by saying the OP article does NOT say there was an official stand-down order given from officials at the White House, the State Department, CIA HQ or DoD. From the article, that order came directly from "Bob", their on-scene commander/supervisor. When asked where the alleged "stand-down order" came from, Paronto, one of the CIA operatives questioned, answered by saying, “It happened on the ground-- all I can talk about is what happened on that ground that night."

So, what you have here is the 3 CIA operatives asked to engage the enemy but NO RESPONSE was ever given from U.S. officials state-side. As such, they acted on their own WITHOUT ANY OFFICIAL ORDERS FROM CIA HQ or anyone else way or another except from their immediate superior on the ground.
 
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Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

That CIA chief was on the phone with some one else just before issuing the stand down order.

Who could it have been ? Valerie Jarrett ?

I doubt it was Obama, he was upstairs in the White House packing for Vegas and rehearsing his speech that Al Qaeda was being decimated and was on the run.

I'm sure great care was taken to insulate the idiot in chief from these orders. And Jarrett makes sense, since the response was looked at in only how it would affect his reelection chances, those lives over there be damned.

It's just sickening that there is a good chance that more lives could have been saved, but they chose to not help them because they were worried that a bad result would make Obama look bad. What a piece of garbage.
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

I posted the following in the http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...nghazi-delayed-response-terrorist-attack.html thread.



I'll add to the above by saying the OP article does NOT say there was an official stand-down order given. What it DOES say, however, is the 3 CIA operatives asked to engage the enemy but NO RESPONSE was ever given. As such, they acted on their own WITHOUT ANY OFFICIAL ORDERS FROM CIA HQ one way or another.

Today Fox News just showed a teaser for what will be aired tomorrow night (Friday 10: PM eastern time)

So far the two CIA security ops say they were ordered to stand down after the top CIA officer got off the phone speaking to ???

Both of these CIA individuals said if they weren't ordered to stand down that they believe all four Americans who were killed that night would still be alive today.

And that it had nothing to do with a video on You Tube.
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

It's nothing that we didn't already know.



"...American officials have previously acknowledged that the Central Intelligence Agency security team paused to try to enlist support from Libyan militia allies. But the book is the first detailed account of the extent of the delay, its consequences for the rescue attempt, and who made the decisions.

The commandos’ account — which fits with the publicly known facts and chronology — suggests that the station chief issued the “stand down” orders on his own authority. He hoped to enlist local Libyan militiamen, and the commandos speculate that he hoped the Libyans could carry out the rescue alone to avoid exposing the C.I.A. base.

No meaningful Libyan help ever materialized....."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/05/w...official-in-benghazi-held-up-rescue.html?_r=0
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

What does Jason Chaffetz have to do with this ? The PoliticFact claim is from 16 months ago.
Chaffetz is the twit that politicized and started all this bs about Benghazi.
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

What does Jason Chaffetz have to do with this ? The PoliticFact claim is from 16 months ago.

He's making the same claim, and the released latest benghazi hearings also back up this fact.
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

It's 3 AM and the phone rings......sorry the loser in charge needs his sleep call back in the morning
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

Chaffetz is the twit that politicized and started all this bs about Benghazi.

Do you think PoliticFact will be issuing a retraction and Chaffetz will be vindicated ?

Calling the terrorist attack in Benghazi and the death of four Americans "bs" are some pretty strong words.

But as Hillary Clinton said about four dead Americans, "At this point what difference does it make."
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

Do you think PoliticFact will be issuing a retraction and Chaffetz will be vindicated ?
I think they'll fact check and find that the story only confirms what we already know. The CIA was acting on it's own.

Calling the terrorist attack in Benghazi and the death of four Americans "bs" are some pretty strong words.

But as Hillary Clinton said about four dead Americans, "At this point what difference does it make."
The politicization of the attacks on Benghazi is BS. It's right up there with the Birthers and Truthers. Now there's the Benghazianiacs to add to the growing list of nutballs.
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

I think they'll fact check and find that the story only confirms what we already know. The CIA was acting on it's own.

The politicization of the attacks on Benghazi is BS. It's right up there with the Birthers and Truthers. Now there's the Benghazianiacs to add to the growing list of nutballs.

It was the Obama White House who politicized the 9-11-12 terrorist attack and the murder of four Americans by blaming it on a You Tube video (cover up) and Obama claiming that Al Qaeda was being decimated and was on the run just to be given a second chance of being reelected.
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

While this is important information in the Benghazi Saga, I hope that Fox chooses patience over blitzing I.e. wait until we get past September 11th before diving headfirst back into Benghazi Mode.
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

But as Hillary Clinton said about four dead Americans, "At this point what difference does it make."

She was not referring to the dead.
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

It was the Obama White House who politicized the 9-11-12 terrorist attack and the murder of four Americans by blaming it on a You Tube video (cover up) and Obama claiming that Al Qaeda was being decimated and was on the run just to be given a second chance of being reelected.

Ambassador Stevens was in Benghazi to help the CIA interpret and negotiate arms away from local militants so the area could be secured for foreign diplomats.

During the attack, the CIA staff chief in Benghazi gave a stand down order to wait before helping the people in the compound in order to get help from locals. He didn't want to blow the CIAs cover.


The CIA top chief in the US ignored the CIA top chief in Libya who said the attack wasn't a protest.


The CIA wrote the talking points.


All the evidence keeps pointing back to the CIA acting on it's own.
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

It was the Obama White House who politicized the 9-11-12 terrorist attack and the murder of four Americans by blaming it on a You Tube video (cover up) and Obama claiming that Al Qaeda was being decimated and was on the run just to be given a second chance of being reelected.

You do know that it was NOT Al Qaeda that attacked the compound in Benghazi right?
 
Re: Top CIA officer in Benghazi delayed response to terrorist attack US security team

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I plan on watching the show to see what is said.
 
Let's put this "breaking news" into perspective...

U.S. security team = 3 CIA operatives at the CIA annex building in Benghazi.

Unless those guys had shoulder held rocket launchers, I doubt they would've make a difference against the mob that attacked the U.S. Embassy or the compound in Benghazi. Nonetheless, I know that this "revelation" comes as a feather in the cap of those who are clinging to something substantial to hang around the President's neck concerning Benghazi, but this, IMHO, isn't it. Sorry, but 3 CIA operatives do not make a U.S. security team. They're just 3 guys with 9mm hand guns against 20-50 radicals with semi-automatic riffles and rocket launchers.


You didn't think there was just 3 CIA operatives on duty at the time.....now did ya OV? Did you forget BO's own statements about the Chatter?
 
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