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ISIS Beheads Steven Sotloff.....

I just came across this while I cam across this other little gem, Obama knew about ISIS at least a year ago...

Just curious, what was it you liked about the original post?
 
In my opinion, ISIS is pushing and pushing, hoping for a response from the West and, ultimatley when the West retaliates, Muslims the world over uniting as one. That, I believe is their ultimate game...a united Muslim front. Oh, and I know that most people believe that there are "two" Islams..."fundamental" and "moderate", but there isn't. Mohammad only invented one Islam and there are those who follow it and those who don't.

Why do real Muslims behead captives/enemies? Why do real Muslims have sex-slaves? Why do real Muslims have child brides? Why do real Muslims kill apostates? Why do real Muslims stone women to death? etc. etc. Because that is exactly what Mohammad did. So called "moderate" Muslims cannot speak out about what ISIS is doing because to do so would be to condemn Mohammad and everything he said and did. Muslims believe that Mohammad was the perfect man and all Muslims should seek to emmulate him and his life. Well, ISIS is doing just that. People have to realise, that Islam is more than just the Qu'ran....Islam is the Qu'ran and the hadith and the sura...Everything Mohammad said and everything Mohammad did is equally as important. Mohammad was a psychopath, a liar, a thief, a mass murderer, a rapist and a pedophile...that is historical fact from Islamic writings, but he is still considered that most perfect man who ever lived and all of his words and actions were sanctioned by God himself. Anyone who knows anything about Mohammad and his life and still chooses to follow him, tells me everything I need to know about that person and that is a person I want nothing to do with and a God I want nothing to do with. I don't believe in the myth of the "moderate" Muslim...I believe that anyone who sanctions and believes in a man like Mohammad is NOT a harmless, moderate person. If Mohammad came back today he would look at ISIS and say "That is Islam, that is what I wanted" and he would condemn "moderate" Muslims as weak and probably apostates.

ISIS is Islam, full stop. Unfortunately, people in Western nations refuse to accept that..why? Because if one recognises that there is a problem then one has to do something about it and it's all too hard and dangerous to do so.
 
Think about it...can you imagine being a hostage right now, knowing what they did to the others, and just biding your time, waiting for your turn. That right there is cruel and torturous.

Those people are sub-human savages. Makes me so glad I wasn't born there, you know?

What I don't understand is why these journalists even go over there - especially after all these beheadings - Daniel Pearl should have been an eye opener.

I suppose it is one thing to go with a military convoy, tribal folk or Kurds - but it's something different if you're going out freelancing. That is a really good way to get kidnapped and potentially beheaded.
 
What I don't understand is why these journalists even go over there - especially after all these beheadings - Daniel Pearl should have been an eye opener.

I suppose it is one thing to go with a military convoy, tribal folk or Kurds - but it's something different if you're going out freelancing. That is a really good way to get kidnapped and potentially beheaded.

I often wonder that myself. Talk about taking your life in your own hands, right? You couldn't pay me enough to do that job there, even with big burly security guys carrying guns.
 
In my opinion, ISIS is pushing and pushing, hoping for a response from the West and, ultimatley when the West retaliates, Muslims the world over uniting as one. That, I believe is their ultimate game...a united Muslim front. Oh, and I know that most people believe that there are "two" Islams..."fundamental" and "moderate", but there isn't. Mohammad only invented one Islam and there are those who follow it and those who don't.

Why do real Muslims behead captives/enemies? Why do real Muslims have sex-slaves? Why do real Muslims have child brides? Why do real Muslims kill apostates? Why do real Muslims stone women to death? etc. etc. Because that is exactly what Mohammad did. So called "moderate" Muslims cannot speak out about what ISIS is doing because to do so would be to condemn Mohammad and everything he said and did. Muslims believe that Mohammad was the perfect man and all Muslims should seek to emmulate him and his life. Well, ISIS is doing just that. People have to realise, that Islam is more than just the Qu'ran....Islam is the Qu'ran and the hadith and the sura...Everything Mohammad said and everything Mohammad did is equally as important. Mohammad was a psychopath, a liar, a thief, a mass murderer, a rapist and a pedophile...that is historical fact from Islamic writings, but he is still considered that most perfect man who ever lived and all of his words and actions were sanctioned by God himself. Anyone who knows anything about Mohammad and his life and still chooses to follow him, tells me everything I need to know about that person and that is a person I want nothing to do with and a God I want nothing to do with. I don't believe in the myth of the "moderate" Muslim...I believe that anyone who sanctions and believes in a man like Mohammad is NOT a harmless, moderate person. If Mohammad came back today he would look at ISIS and say "That is Islam, that is what I wanted" and he would condemn "moderate" Muslims as weak and probably apostates.

ISIS is Islam, full stop. Unfortunately, people in Western nations refuse to accept that..why? Because if one recognises that there is a problem then one has to do something about it and it's all too hard and dangerous to do so.



Mornin' Lady Moonlight.
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Here was the theory that our people were using for dealing with them overseas. That would be those in both parties. Of course today its all about that Term.....Moderate. ;)



In the past, United States officials saw the Islamist groups’ abundant resources as the main draw for recruits, said Steven Heydemann, a senior adviser at the United States Institute of Peace, which works with the State Department.

The strategy is based on the current assessment that popular appeal of these groups is transactional, not ideological, and that opportunities exist to peel people away by providing alternative support and resources,” he said. Mr. Heydemann acknowledged, however, that the current momentum toward radicalism could be hard to reverse.....snip~

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/w...eate-dilemma-for-us.html?pagewanted=all&_r=2&
 
I often wonder that myself. Talk about taking your life in your own hands, right? You couldn't pay me enough to do that job there, even with big burly security guys carrying guns.

Well the Kurds and tribal folks will protect you with their lives - especially the tribes. For some unknown reason Islamic extremists don't mess with the tribal folk, and the tribal folk are pro-democracy and pro-West. So it is relatively safe if you're with them (or the Kurds), however wondering off on your own looking for a story is a horrible idea.
 
Well the Kurds and tribal folks will protect you with their lives - especially the tribes. For some unknown reason Islamic extremists don't mess with the tribal folk, and the tribal folk are pro-democracy and pro-West. So it is relatively safe if you're with them (or the Kurds), however wondering off on your own looking for a story is a horrible idea.

The Islamic extremists are deathly afraid of the PKK because they have a large number of hardened female fighters. ISIS in particular is deathly afraid of these women fighters because they believe that being killed by a woman keeps them from entering heaven.

That is why we should be dropping leaflets like this on ISIS positions:

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The Islamic extremists are deathly afraid of the PKK because they have a large number of hardened female fighters. ISIS in particular is deathly afraid of these women fighters because they believe that being killed by a woman keeps them from entering heaven.

That is why we should be dropping leaflets like this on ISIS positions:

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Save on the paper and just use Napalm.....it has a better effect and still solves the same purpose.
 
Save on the paper and just use Napalm.....it has a better effect and still solves the same purpose.

And throw in a little pig's blood with each ordinance.
 
Just mention a cut in foreign aid and that should do the job.

Bergdahl deserted the military and was celebrated by Obama in the Rose Garden.. You've made my case.

And you think that if Bergdahl hadn't 'deserted' (and by the way, he has not been charged with desertion - as a former legal officer - one of my many collateral duties in the service - I can tell you that in order to be guilty of desertion, it has to be established that there was no intention to return. Otherwise it is AWOL), Obama wouldn't have tried to get him back? What proof do you have of that?

Bergdahl isn't my flavor of the month as an American soldier, but he was an American soldier held by the enemy. And Obama got him back.

PS I can also tell you that, given my knowledge of the UCMJ, getting a conviction for desertion on Bergdahl would be next to impossible.
 
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The Islamic extremists are deathly afraid of the PKK because they have a large number of hardened female fighters. ISIS in particular is deathly afraid of these women fighters because they believe that being killed by a woman keeps them from entering heaven. That is why we should be dropping leaflets like this on ISIS positions:

They're fighting in Kurdistan also. https://www.google.ca/search?q=wome...v&sa=X&ei=8awIVLv7E8bwiwKXwYDQDw&ved=0CCMQsAQ

I've always loved women but this takes it to a whole new level!
 
And you think that if Bergdahl hadn't 'deserted' (and by the way, he has not been charged with desertion - as a former legal officer - one of my many collateral duties in the service - I can tell you that in order to be guilty of desertion, it has to be established that there was no intention to return. Otherwise it is AWOL), Obama wouldn't have tried to get him back? What proof do you have of that?
So far we only know that he 'wandered off his post", a fellow soldier was killed looking for him, Obama illegally traded five terrorists for his return, feted him in the Rose Garden, but ignored his fellow marines who had been searching for him. BHO's attitude on the military was also evident on his response to Benghazi.
 
So far we only know that he 'wandered off his post", a fellow soldier was killed looking for him, Obama illegally traded five terrorists for his return, feted him in the Rose Garden, but ignored his fellow marines who had been searching for him. BHO's attitude on the military was also evident on his response to Benghazi.

Actually he didn't 'fete' him. He had his parents there - who, incidentally, Bergdahl has refused to meet with since his return.

How was Obama's attitude towards the military evident in his 'response' to Benghazi?
 
Actually he didn't 'fete' him. He had his parents there - who, incidentally, Bergdahl has refused to meet with since his return.
You have evidence that Bergdahl refused an invite from the Obama? And Bergdahls parents just happened to be in the Rose Garden at the time with their sons name never being mentioned?

How was Obama's attitude towards the military evident in his 'response' to Benghazi?
If you don't know then you can investigate and the discuss it on the appropriate thread.
 
Why are you being such a jerk? Or do you just like to fight with everybody over everything. I agree with many of your posts but apparently only agreement with everything you say spares the ridicule and condescension.

The Benghazi investigation has already been done. A bi-partisan investigation already delivered a report. Bipartisan Report Calls Benghazi Attacks 'Preventable' : The Two-Way : NPR

And what does that have to do with U.S. soldiers? If you want to see what happened at Benghazi as proof of some deep seated hatred of soldiers by Obama, be my guest. You have no proof supporting that at all. And certainly nothing in the report supports that ridiculous conclusion.

Bergdahl was in no position to refuse or accept an invitation to the Rose Garden since he was in an Army hospital in Germany. Bergdahl's parents were invited because their son had just been freed from years of captivity. I'm not seeing the anti-military conspiracy here. Maybe you can elaborate. So far, the anti-military President has saved countless military lives by the use of drones to attack our enemies, instead of soldiers.
 
Much like foreigners who violate American law are left to 'rot' in U.S. prisons. I don't see a lot of threads about them.

At least foreigners who violate American laws aren't put in front of a crooked justice system.
And US prisons aren't like Mexican prisons.
 
Why are you being such a jerk? Or do you just like to fight with everybody over everything. I agree with many of your posts but apparently only agreement with everything you say spares the ridicule and condescension.
Actually I'm a nice guy but my style may be harsh. I do agree with almost all your posts so, when we disagree, please take it as no big deal.

The Benghazi investigation has already been done.

No, it has not. Inside the Beltway: Here comes Benghazi, The Investigation - Washington Times

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourcei...8#q=benghazi+investigation+trey+gowdy&tbm=nws
And what does that have to do with U.S. soldiers? If you want to see what happened at Benghazi as proof of some deep seated hatred of soldiers by Obama, be my guest. You have no proof supporting that at all. And certainly nothing in the report supports that ridiculous conclusion.
I never mentioned "deep seated hatred".
Bergdahl was in no position to refuse or accept an invitation to the Rose Garden since he was in an Army hospital in Germany. Bergdahl's parents were invited because their son had just been freed from years of captivity. I'm not seeing the anti-military conspiracy here. Maybe you can elaborate. So far, the anti-military President has saved countless military lives by the use of drones to attack our enemies, instead of soldiers.
It was Obama who invited them though the survivors of Benghazi, as an example, received no such invitation. This invite was designed to overshadow the illegal release of five Islamic terrorists, an attempt at a 'feel good story', and that is all.
 
I've begun to pay occasional attention to Legal Insurrection and read here that Sotloff was an Israeli citizen and an observant Jew whose friends and colleagues monitored Facebook and etc. to make sure that these sites were scrubbed of references to his heritage. I had no idea. Steven Sotloff | Islamic State | Syria | James Foley
 
Arabs are subhuman?

I don't know what their ancestry is. Iranians are Persian, not Arabian. I don't know if the others are strictly arabian, or something else.

I'm referring to the people indigenous to that area....they have been killing and beheading each other there for over 1,000 years. There are no true countries, there. There are tribes. They are not going to change. This is how they are, how they live, what they believe. If someone else "infects" their space, they will have hell to pay, just like they give each other. Mass executions,, genocides, beheadings, torture, stoning to death, not recognizing human rights. It's all about their "cause."

The first city on earth was in Iraq...where Baghdad is located. That's why their museum was so important. The world lost most of those artifacts when we invaded the country. They were either destroyed or stolen. So...."they" have been in that area of the world since before human memory. Whoever "they" are...sunnis, shi'ites, etc.
 
I've begun to pay occasional attention to Legal Insurrection and read here that Sotloff was an Israeli citizen and an observant Jew whose friends and colleagues monitored Facebook and etc. to make sure that these sites were scrubbed of references to his heritage. I had no idea. Steven Sotloff | Islamic State | Syria | James Foley

So even if this is true, does being a Jew, an Israeli, or both mean that he deserved this or that it somehow mitigates the crime? And if not then why bring it up?
 
So even if this is true, does being a Jew, an Israeli, or both mean that he deserved this or that it somehow mitigates the crime? And if not then why bring it up?
I don't think she meant anything negative by her comments. It was just an observation and the lengths friends had to go to to hide it from those who would do him harm.
 
So even if this is true, does being a Jew, an Israeli, or both mean that he deserved this or that it somehow mitigates the crime? And if not then why bring it up?

I'm guessing that you didn't read the link. If you had, I don't think you'd be asking this question.

Did you know that Sotloff was Jewish and an Israeli? I didn't. For me and probably many others, this is breaking news.

I thought the implication of this was obvious, but since it isn't, I'll spell it out in asking you a few questions that I'm surprised you didn't ask yourself:

What do you think his captors would have done to him had they known he was a Jew and an Israeli?

Given what these terrorists and their sympathizers think of Jews in general and Israel in particular, don't you think it took an extraordinary courage to report in this part of the world?

Isn't it a testimony to the character of the man himself that 150 people were working tirelessly to scrub the 'Net of any careless references that could betray Sotloff?

Honi soit qui mal y pense (motto of the Order of the Garter), and per forum rules, my own paraphrased shame on you for thinking ill of this and of me."

Honi soit qui mal y pense - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
JOhn McCain and Lindsay Graham wanted to arm them.


We really have entered an age where many in our nation that continue to support these escapades, and particularly in support for one particular nation, have fallen into line as the blind or religiously delusional following the mad and pyschotic.
 
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