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Civil disobedience expected in fast-food pay fight

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NEW YORK (AP) — McDonald's, Wendy's and other fast-food restaurants are expected to be targeted with acts of civil disobedience that could lead to arrests Thursday as labor organizers escalate their campaign to unionize the industry's workers.Kendall Fells, an organizing director for Fast Food Forward, said workers in a couple of dozen cities were trained to peacefully engage in civil disobedience ahead of this week's planned protests.
Fells declined to say what exactly is in store for the protests in around 150 U.S. cities. But workers involved in the movement recently cited sit-ins as an example of strategies they could use to intensify their push for higher pay and unionization. Past protests have targeted a couple of restaurants in each city for a limited time, in many cases posing little disruption to operations.
A spokesman for the Service Employees International Union, which has been spearheading the protests, said home health care aides will join the actions in some locations.
The "Fight for $15" campaign has gained national attention at a time when growing income disparities have become a hot political issue. President Barack Obama renewed his push for Congress to raise the minimum wage at a Labor Day appearance in Milwaukee.


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They deserve a wage increase. Hell everyone working minimum wage does. We have a problem in this country, and its vast inequality. All the people that seem to be against wage increases are those who are fortunate enough not to work in those jobs. Fast food workers are no longer just for teens starting their first job, there are parents, adults, grandparents, uncles. Many college grades work there too. I am willing to pay a little more extra to help these workers out.
 
Does that mean we'll be seeing more jackboot thugs pointing rifles at citizens and more violations of their civil and constitutional rights?
 
Excellent. I wonder if Burger King will be represented? Of course, Sherrod Brown has called for a mass boycott of BK and if he has his way, then they won't even need to worry about that $7.25.

What should burger flippers be paid anyway?
 
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They deserve a wage increase. Hell everyone working minimum wage does. We have a problem in this country, and its vast inequality. All the people that seem to be against wage increases are those who are fortunate enough not to work in those jobs. Fast food workers are no longer just for teens starting their first job, there are parents, adults, grandparents, uncles. Many college grades work there too. I am willing to pay a little more extra to help these workers out. [/FONT][/COLOR]

My understanding was that civil disobedience was against a government entity. Are they really protesting the businesses or are they expecting government action?
 
My understanding was that civil disobedience was against a government entity. Are they really protesting the businesses or are they expecting government action?

I dont think it has to be against a government, just some sort of "power figure". Just has to be peaceful.
 
Does that mean we'll be seeing more jackboot thugs pointing rifles at citizens and more violations of their civil and constitutional rights?


It seems to be the answer to all things there now.

I wonder about the claims of a president as to the health of a nation when a simple labor dispute becomes a threat of violence.

I guess, when you have a leader who simply refuses to compromise on anything, then compromise is impossible at the street level.
 
Hope they all are fired.


For?

The right of organizing and collective bargaining is a long established right, hard won by the likes of Walter Reuther at the battle of the overpass. I am afraid your days of punishing strikers is over as it's illegal.

IF anyone., we see only a threat, does commit acts of violence you have a criminal justice department.
 
It seems to be the answer to all things there now.

I wonder about the claims of a president as to the health of a nation when a simple labor dispute becomes a threat of violence.

I guess, when you have a leader who simply refuses to compromise on anything, then compromise is impossible at the street level.
Now?

Violence erupts at GM plant strike — History.com This Day in History — 1/11/1937

January 11, 1937

On this day in 1937, nearly two weeks into a sit-down strike by General Motors (GM) auto workers at the Fisher Body Plant No. 2 in Flint, Michigan, a riot breaks out when police try to prevent the strikers from receiving food deliveries from supporters on the outside. Strikers and police officers alike were injured in the melee, which was later nicknamed the "Battle of the Running Bulls." After the January 11 riot, Michigan governor Frank Murphy called in the National Guard to surround the plant.

How should Obama involve himself in labor disputes? You know, he never showed up in Wisconsin to defend union workers here, correct?
 
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Excellent. I wonder if Burger King will be represented? Of course, Sherrod Brown has called for a mass boycott of BK and if he has his way, then they won't even need to worry about that $7.25.

What should burger flippers be paid anyway?

Why on earth would Sherrod Brown call for a boycott of Burger King, when the CEO is a fellow Democrat - other than that's what his party does when they don't understand how the business world operates? Doesn't he realize that a boycott only hurts the people who work there, or doesn't he care about that? So why isn't he also calling for a boycott of GM? His constituents are directly affected with loss of jobs when GM decides to build cars in China and Mexico instead of the US. Why the double standard, Sherrod? :thumbdown:
 
Why on earth would Sherrod Brown call for a boycott of Burger King, when the CEO is a fellow Democrat - other than that's what his party does when they don't understand how the business world operates? Doesn't he realize that a boycott only hurts the people who work there, or doesn't he care about that? So why isn't he also calling for a boycott of GM? His constituents are directly affected with loss of jobs when GM decides to build cars in China and Mexico instead of the US. Why the double standard, Sherrod? :thumbdown:



"I am entitled to my entitlements" is a direct quote from a Canadian member of Parliament - MP - who was caught with both hands and a leg in the cookie jar, having run up $435,000 in travel expenses in one year.

It is an icon for the various factions "fighting" for what is "theirs" whether it be free housing or a bail out for GM and the world's bankers. The game has been shifted through the collective dumbing down to a 144 character crawl across defining most issues. It has gone from "what's mine is mine" to "to what I say is mine, is mine."

The corporate socialists who demand tax breaks and bail outs use fear as their main weapon: "too large to fail". The labor left uses intimidation as their primary weapon...give us what we want or we'll put you out of business, which really is killing the goose.

Here, today, there is no school because in the name of "the students" teachers have withdrawn their services because they want smaller class sizes. This is, in any logical society, is as much extortion as "too large to fail".

The strike was invented by Masons and their laborers in the middle ages, a secret society controlled all building and if you did not pay them what they demanded, as much as one and a half pennies a day!, your castle simply never got built.

I suspect big corporate figured out how it would work for them in WWII.
 
Food fights
 
Why on earth would Sherrod Brown call for a boycott of Burger King, when the CEO is a fellow Democrat - other than that's what his party does when they don't understand how the business world operates? Doesn't he realize that a boycott only hurts the people who work there, or doesn't he care about that? So why isn't he also calling for a boycott of GM? His constituents are directly affected with loss of jobs when GM decides to build cars in China and Mexico instead of the US. Why the double standard, Sherrod? :thumbdown:

Because he's a simpleton.
 
Can someone tell me what an appropriate wage is for someone who flips burgers, pops a wire basket of fries in grease, or sits at the driveup window taking money or credit cards and asking "Do you want sauce with that?"
 
For?

The right of organizing and collective bargaining is a long established right, hard won by the likes of Walter Reuther at the battle of the overpass. I am afraid your days of punishing strikers is over as it's illegal.

IF anyone., we see only a threat, does commit acts of violence you have a criminal justice department.
Demanding pay for work that is not worth that much.
Attempting to hold hostage the company that pays them at all.
I refuse to eat there based a lot on the fact that I wonder what a bunch of disgruntled employees would do to my food. I cant be the only one.
 
Can someone tell me what an appropriate wage is for someone who flips burgers, pops a wire basket of fries in grease, or sits at the driveup window taking money or credit cards and asking "Do you want sauce with that?"

I remember when I was a kid I worked for 2.85hr! And I can tell you exactly what I thought, I need to find a better job!! Screw these idiots that want 20$hr to flip burgers. The work is not even labor intensive enough to demand that kind of money, go dig a ditch or do some landscaping for a week then they will realize how little they actually do! Now that I think about it, I believe it was more like 2.35hr
 
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They deserve a wage increase. Hell everyone working minimum wage does. We have a problem in this country, and its vast inequality. All the people that seem to be against wage increases are those who are fortunate enough not to work in those jobs. Fast food workers are no longer just for teens starting their first job, there are parents, adults, grandparents, uncles. Many college grades work there too. I am willing to pay a little more extra to help these workers out. [/FONT][/COLOR]

The problem is not the wage level for minimum wage jobs. The problem is, as you state, the reliance of many on entry level, part-time, and minimum skilled jobs that were the sole domain of teenagers, college students, housewives whose kids are now in school, and the elderly who wanted something to do or supplemental income in retirement.

No prospering and growing economy can rely of a large segment of its population entering and staying in minimum wage jobs for their entire working lives. Anyone who aspires to a full life of working at Burger King deserves to make minimum wage plus whatever minimal increases one receives year over year.

Instead of pushing for businesses to be saddled with saving the livelihoods of people, why don't you push for government action on the decay of the manufacturing economy that has not been replaced by equally well paying jobs. If you want to pay more for things, why don't you push to pay more for all the products you import from China and southeast Asia so those products can return to being produced inside America.
 
Why on earth would Sherrod Brown call for a boycott of Burger King, when the CEO is a fellow Democrat - other than that's what his party does when they don't understand how the business world operates? Doesn't he realize that a boycott only hurts the people who work there, or doesn't he care about that? So why isn't he also calling for a boycott of GM? His constituents are directly affected with loss of jobs when GM decides to build cars in China and Mexico instead of the US. Why the double standard, Sherrod? :thumbdown:

Wait a minute here.

A fellow Democrat is leading BK to an inversion with Tim Horton's to avoid paying US corporate taxes?

Why is it that the market based laws of supply and demand escape so many?
Why is it that intervention by government or unions in an attempt to subvert that law is always counterproductive escapes so many?

Burger flipping is at BK is worth what customers are willing to pay for a Whopper, no more, and the market has pretty well set that compensation rate.

It's as if the view is some can mandate market parameters, which is usually decided by the market realities, to whatever is desired, rather than what is realistic. So they proceed with doing that, and then are surprised when the market reacts, often in a negative way - such as installing computer kiosks rather than hiring fast food cashiers.

If there were ever a case of continuing to do the same thing and expecting different results, these actions of some would have to be included.
 
Demanding pay for work that is not worth that much.
Attempting to hold hostage the company that pays them at all.
I refuse to eat there based a lot on the fact that I wonder what a bunch of disgruntled employees would do to my food. I cant be the only one.

who are you to pass judgement on their demands?

"Work that isn't that much"?

And the second line is illegal...you cannot fire workers for striking, not since around 1900 anyway.
 
Can someone tell me what an appropriate wage is for someone who flips burgers, pops a wire basket of fries in grease, or sits at the driveup window taking money or credit cards and asking "Do you want sauce with that?"

Perhaps an increase by a maximum of two-three dollars an hour. Modest increases at least temporarily have their impact against fluctuations in the cost of living, but no, the rest of the labor pool would start desiring $25 an hour to balance out with the minimum wage earners.
 
Why on earth would Sherrod Brown call for a boycott of Burger King, when the CEO is a fellow Democrat - other than that's what his party does when they don't understand how the business world operates? Doesn't he realize that a boycott only hurts the people who work there, or doesn't he care about that? So why isn't he also calling for a boycott of GM? His constituents are directly affected with loss of jobs when GM decides to build cars in China and Mexico instead of the US. Why the double standard, Sherrod? :thumbdown:

I'll tell you why, the unions are big campaign donors and eventually they want to unionize fastfood workers. And the gains these workers would receive with a minimum wage hike would eventually go right to the union. FACT
 
I'll tell you why, the unions are big campaign donors and eventually they want to unionize fastfood workers. And the gains these workers would receive with a minimum wage hike would eventually go right to the union. FACT

How much do you honestly think union dues are?
 
I'll tell you why, the unions are big campaign donors and eventually they want to unionize fastfood workers. And the gains these workers would receive with a minimum wage hike would eventually go right to the union. FACT

Wrong.
 
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