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Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents[W:76]

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You might want to ask Senators Cruz and Paul, since they're the ones who brought up demilitarization of the police,
catering to that wing of ther Libertarians .
apdst said:
How is demilitarization of the police supposed to work? Give them BB guns, or what?
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X Factor said:
There was tremendous support for two cops getting gunned down? Can't say I'm surprised.
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Don't be a wiseguy X. You know what I was saying.
 
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X Factor said:
It makes total sense in every cop hating thread here. I'm just letting you all know that I get it.
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You do realize it's possible to express your frustration and even anger of the behavior of a single member of a group without having condemned every other member of that group as well. Don't you?
 
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Fearandloathing said:
You have advocated the actions of the cops who broke the law.
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If posting something angry on social media is breaking the law, there are lots of criminals on this very forum.


You have advocated the withdrawal of services of every cop in the US which would lead to nationwide riots, looting, murders and mayhem in a selfish and petty respnse to two cops being justifiably fired.

And yes, the last time I looked, every citizen in American is an innocent until PROVEN guilty fine, upstanding citizen.....unless you're black, ugly and happen to get shot by a cop. Then you are a "thug", "thief" and all manner of **** the NRA/Cops are gods crowd has been spewing since this thing broke.

In future, it would be best to read and understand all of what I've posted before replying.
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Since you all don't believe there should be any basic minimum standard of conduct toward them that the police should expect, why should they stick around risking anything for folks who don't give a ****?
 
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Beaudreaux said:
Police officers have extraordinary powers that can be easily abused, and if an officer makes statements on the internet like the one did, then he should not be on the force. The one that said F You should have been disciplined and a review done to see if he could stay on the force with counseling to help him deal with the pressures that the riots put on him. Maybe that was done, and he chose to maintain his position. I don't know.

However, many of the officers in that town seem to me to be good public servants that did their job and wanted to help not harm. Hell, even some the black citizens took up positions to defend stores from the looters and confronted them with the same language and disdain as the officer that said F You. Videos of them doing so are all over the internet, yet we harp on one guy that lost his temper, was obviously scared and used a politically incorrect term. Again, I don't know what happened with that guy. Maybe he maintained that attitude, and maybe even has had that attitude for years - if so he needed to go, but if not, this was too harsh to ruin a career over.
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It's symptomatic of a larger problem. That's why it's getting alot of attention. People are also sick and tired of having their legitimate concerns minimized and so easily forgiven. We SHOULD hold cops to higher standards
 
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NIMBY said:
You might want to ask Senators Cruz and Paul, since they're the ones who brought up demilitarization of the police,
catering to that wing of ther Libertarians .
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I want YOUR opinion on how it's going to work. What about the, "militarized", police don't you approve of?
 
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X Factor said:
Yep, any displays of humanity while wearing a badge makes you a worthless waste of oxygen. Maybe if we're lucky, they'll do the honorable thing, right? When was the last time someone expressed sadness over a cop losing his/her life or acknowledging a job well done? Actually, getting away from law enforcement is probably the best thing to happen to them. I swear they should all just walk off the job since almost nobody gives a **** about what happens to them anyway.
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Yeah, those were my first thoughts as well. But I'm sure some of them have families to support and this would be a blow. The worthless protesters and in particular the idiot who folks here try to call a journalist, if only they were the ones to suffer the negative consequences.
 
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opendebate said:
Don't be a smartass X. You know what I was saying.
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Sorry, you're right. I know what you meant.

opendebate said:
You do realize it's possible to express your frustration and even anger of the behavior of a single member of a group without having condemned every other member of that group as well. Don't you?
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Yes I do. Here's the thing. I've interacted with a lot of cops. They say things to each other that would be pretty offensive to some. I just disagree with criminalizing that or tossing them on the junk heap for having human emotion. I've seen more than one cop choke up a little upon describing some particularly bad crime scene (usually involving children). According to many here, that display of emotion/humanity means they're not worthy of a badge. I just think that's bull****.
 
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Why would anyone concentrate on these two bad cops as though they represent the whole. I watched the situation in Ferguson. I saw dozens and dozens of cops who didn't abuse anyone, who didn't point their weapons at anyone. Why the intense effort to defend these two indefensible cops?
 
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Deuce said:
Saying that protestors should be put down like dogs is not an expression of humanity. Monsters say that sort of thing.


Only every single time an officer is killed in the line of duty.



What planet do you live on?
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Oh nonsense, your hatred of police has been kneejerk and often. And monsters? You don't know what monsters are if you think just expressing frustration verbally makes one a monster.

On the planet I live what was done to these officers is disgusting.
 
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Gaius46 said:
They were treating the people they are supposed to serve and protect as worthless wastes of oxygen. That's unacceptable in people who have vested in them the power to destroy lives.
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You don't get it, they are protecting and serving the community FROM the worthless wastes of oxygen and their actions. You want it the other way around apparently. The protesters, the rioters, they ARE worthless wastes who destroy lives and property.
 
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apdst said:
I want YOUR opinion on how it's going to work. What about the, "militarized", police don't you approve of?
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Since the comment is a quote of two politicians, perhaps it's time you did some research of your own. Perhaps starting with informing yourself of just how the American policing system has been buying up surplus Iraq war materiel for use against civilians.

Then you can maybe debate without distorting and exaggerating what every poster whom you disagree with happens to offer.
 
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X Factor said:
Talking about "not deserving" of a badge. I sincerely have been wondering lately why anyone would even want to wear a badge. Most of the people they're "serving" and "protecting" wouldn't give one tiny rats ass if someone blew them away and certainly wouldn't do anything to prevent it even if they could.
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Only the town and the meek win. Protectors inherently sacrifice and lose even when the town and the meek win. Thats just the way it is. They accept a harsher life so that the innocent may enjoy greater happiness.
 
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Fearandloathing said:
Since the comment is a quote of two politicians, perhaps it's time you did some research of your own. Perhaps starting with informing yourself of just how the American policing system has been buying up surplus Iraq war materiel for use against civilians.

Then you can maybe debate without distorting and exaggerating what every poster whom you disagree with happens to offer.
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It doesn't work like that. If a poster is going to claim that the police are too militarized, it's up to that poster to provide examples and solutions when asked for them.
 
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clownboy said:
You don't get it, they are protecting and serving the community FROM the worthless wastes of oxygen and their actions. You want it the other way around apparently. The protesters, the rioters, they ARE worthless wastes who destroy lives and property.
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Ironically, they were protesting police action from police officers they consider worthless wastes of oxygen. :lol:
 
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X Factor said:
Since you all don't believe there should be any basic minimum standard of conduct toward them that the police should expect, why should they stick around risking anything for folks who don't give a ****?
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Maybe the government should set a standard and stick to it themselves before they demand everyone treat officers within a certain standard. :shrug:
 
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apdst said:
How is demilitarization of the police supposed to work? Give them BB guns, or what?
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We can start by only giving them the same weapons everyone else has access to. You know, the way it was intended.
 
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opendebate said:
It's symptomatic of a larger problem. That's why it's getting alot of attention. People are also sick and tired of having their legitimate concerns minimized and so easily forgiven. We SHOULD hold cops to higher standards
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That might be difficult to achieve since most people after finishing college have no desire to become police officers.

I know of at least two towns or cities where the minimum requirements to apply for the position of police officers are no felony convictions and an almost clean police record (having nothing other than parking tickets), being 21 years of age, and only having a high school education, they will train people. That's setting the bar pretty low for having to deal with a population that's pretty diverse and dealing with the public on a general basis, some of which are more qualified to be a peace officer than the police officer him/her self.

Some cities and counties have a pattern of abuses, one of which is Ferguson and the police department itself, the other is St Louis county.
 
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Beaudreaux said:
Police officers have extraordinary powers that can be easily abused, and if an officer makes statements on the internet like the one did, then he should not be on the force. The one that said F You should have been disciplined and a review done to see if he could stay on the force with counseling to help him deal with the pressures that the riots put on him. Maybe that was done, and he chose to maintain his position. I don't know.

However, many of the officers in that town seem to me to be good public servants that did their job and wanted to help not harm. Hell, even some the black citizens took up positions to defend stores from the looters and confronted them with the same language and disdain as the officer that said F You. Videos of them doing so are all over the internet, yet we harp on one guy that lost his temper, was obviously scared and used a politically incorrect term. Again, I don't know what happened with that guy. Maybe he maintained that attitude, and maybe even has had that attitude for years - if so he needed to go, but if not, this was too harsh to ruin a career over.
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Saw on the internet news somewhere that some people have filed a $40 million lawsuit against officers who were in Ferguson trying to control the crowds, stems from officers ordering a mother and child in a Mc D's restaurant onto the floor while they were purchasing ice cream, they were cuffed and hauled away for asking why they were told to leave and why they were being ordered around, since they weren't the ones causing the so called trouble.
 
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CanadaJohn said:
I don't agree at all, but then I don't personally have a fear of police or law enforcement and I've never committed a crime, although I have sped on occasion and accept my punishment when caught. I believe police prevent lots of crime, particularly in large cities, by their very presence as well as by investigating crime before and after it happens.
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The best tools to lower crime in society are wealth and culture. Police are not even on the radar. In reality, and outside of statist propaganda, force is a pretty ****ty tool to lower crime. It's also just freaking bizarre to say it keeps peace.
 
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Texmex said:
Why would anyone concentrate on these two bad cops as though they represent the whole. I watched the situation in Ferguson. I saw dozens and dozens of cops who didn't abuse anyone, who didn't point their weapons at anyone. Why the intense effort to defend these two indefensible cops?
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Why would anyone concentrate on the vast minority of airplanes that crash? I've watched hundreds upon hundreds of airplanes land without incident. :2razz:
 
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Risky Thicket said:
Source? Not a chance. I seriously doubt it ever happened. :mrgreen: Or ever will.
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Ye gods! I've got a head cold.... wasn't thinking. :doh
 
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apdst said:
It doesn't work like that. If a poster is going to claim that the police are too militarized, it's up to that poster to provide examples and solutions when asked for them.
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:lamo :lamo :lamo

I guess you didn't see any pictures from Ferguson. This is too rich! :lamo :lamo
 
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