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Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents[W:76]

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X Factor said:
Talking about "not deserving" of a badge. I sincerely have been wondering lately why anyone would even want to wear a badge. Most of the people they're "serving" and "protecting" wouldn't give one tiny rats ass if someone blew them and certainly wouldn't do anything to prevent it even if they could.
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Well yes - their job requires they deal with the riff raff. That doesn't mean they're permitted to stoop down to that level.

They're trained and paid to do a good job - not a slack job. If they act like the criminals and hte disturbers of the peace then what's the difference between the two?
 
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danarhea said:
Both decisions were good decisions. Police officers do not own the community. They work FOR the community, and the community is the boss, not them.
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Sadly I dont think the majority of cops in the country believe in that anymore. The old saying of "to serve and protect" has long since fallen into disuse, now its, "dont mess with us or you will be shot/tasered/arrested". Most cops now think they are no longer civilians and instead believe they are a paramilitary unit that can enforce the law however they see fit.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Well yes - their job requires they deal with the riff raff. That doesn't mean they're permitted to stoop down to that level.[/b]
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With zero appreciation.

They're trained and paid to do a good job - not a slack job. If they act like the criminals and hte disturbers of the peace then what's the difference between the two?
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Oh you're right. They get paid so much that completely makes up for the contempt most people have for them. What gets me is there is apparently no minimum level conduct you all think cops should be treated with. Some guy spits on them, they better ****ing allow it with a smile because anything else is them being criminals themselves.

Incidentally, if posting something angry on social media is criminal conduct, there are a lot of criminals on this very forum (shoot, I break that law pretty nearly every day).
 
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X Factor said:
With zero appreciation.



Oh you're right. They get paid so much that completely makes up for the contempt most people have for them. What gets me is there is apparently no minimum level conduct you all think cops should be treated with. Some guy spits on them, they better ****ing allow it with a smile because anything else is them being criminals themselves.

Incidentally, if posting something angry on social media is criminal conduct, there are a lot of criminals on this very forum (shoot, I break that law pretty nearly every day).
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We're addressing two different things, here. You're trying to pretend as if it's all the same thing.

"Some people don't like cops" therefor "it's okay for cops to violate their basic guidlines of ethics and good behavior as a result"

- See? The two aren't jiving for me.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
We're addressing two different things, here. You're trying to pretend as if it's all the same thing.

"Some people don't like cops" therefor "it's okay for cops to violate their basic guidlines of ethics and good behavior as a result"

- See? The two aren't jiving for me.
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I hear you. It's just too bad the cops mentioned in this thread did get what they really deserved. Like I said, any cop given to human emotion at all ever should be financially ruined at the very least.

It's not "some people" who don't like cops. It's most people.
 
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Maybe you should read the comments.
Though I do realize after my discussion with Beaudreax tonight how irritationg that is to you to be limped into one pile.
X Factor said:
Do tell me what all us "righties" are like and why it's just inappropriate for us to give a damn about what happens to animals.
I'm all ears.
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Did you see my thread supporting you Texas folks and CC in the schools?



I know. We'd be better of without all "these guys", wouldn't we? Although, can you really refer to automatons as "guys"?
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Maybe I missed it Xy.
How do you feel about these disciplined cops ?
 
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NIMBY said:
Maybe you should read the comments.
Though I do realize after my discussion with Beaudreax tonight how irritationg that is to you to be limped into one pile.
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I assume you're fine with be "limped" into one pile with all lefties? If not, try for once in your life to afford others what you expect for yourself.

Did you see my thread supporting you Texas folks and CC in the schools?
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And tomorrow you'll be bashing all us Texas folks. /shrug


Maybe I missed it Xy.
How do you feel about these disciplined cops ?
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Anything less than making their remaining years one long string of misery is a miscarriage of justice.
 
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St. Louis Area Cop: Protesters Should Be 'Put Down Like Rabid Dogs' | The Daily Caller
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:yt seems like some inappropriate behavior.
 
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X Factor said:
Yep, any displays of humanity while wearing a badge makes you a worthless waste of oxygen. Maybe if we're lucky, they'll do the honorable thing, right? When was the last time someone expressed sadness over a cop losing his/her life or acknowledging a job well done? Actually, getting away from law enforcement is probably the best thing to happen to them. I swear they should all just walk off the job since almost nobody gives a **** about what happens to them anyway.
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What a drama queen.
 
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X Factor said:
Is there something I said you disagree with? Surely you wouldn't suggest that cops be permitted to get frustrated, angry, hurt, saddened, stressed, etc. The ones who do need to be scrapped with no more care or concern than a broken down car.



I get it. They're there for your comfort and the ones who aren't committed to that just suck.
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Getting frustrated, angry, stressed is human. Of course cops get that way. What they can't do, because they armed and have the power of the state behind them is ACT on those feelings. Cops who can't control their anger need to find another line of work.

They aren't there for my comfort. They are there to serve the community. That means keeping order and arresting people when needed. It doesn't mean telling people to go f**k themselves! beating the crap out if people! pointing weapons at unarmed people who aren't breaking the law etc etc.
 
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X Factor said:
If you've seen some outpouring of respect or concern for or even just an attempt at understanding the people behind the badge, you've been hanging out where I haven't. Maybe it's the uniform that leads people to believe cops are no longer to be regarded as human and should be discarded with no more concern than one would have over a defective dishwasher.
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Apparently I have been hanging out in places you have not. Your assumptions as to attitudes is flat out wrong, and to an embarrassing degree.

It is further important to understand and realize that the actions of the specific officers mentioned in this thread where unprofessional and inappropriate. The idea this is cop hating is silly. The reality is that I and many others support the police, but that does not mean we should turn a blind eye to unprofessional behavior when it happens.
 
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Utility Man said:
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:yt seems like some inappropriate behavior.
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Ah, Facebook. If you're ever worried that people won't truly appreciate what a monster or complete fool you are, Facebook is always there to help you get the word out.
 
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Cardinal said:
Ah, Facebook. If you're ever worried that people won't truly appreciate what a monster or complete fool you are, Facebook is always there to help you get the word out.
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And thats why I dont have FB or Twitter. The only thing I have is Linkedin and thats strictly for business purposes.

EDIT: Actually I do have a fake FB account for stalking ex-GFs... but nobody knows its really me.
 
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danarhea said:
Officer Go **** Yourself has been forced to resign, and another officer who posted on social media sites that the Ferguson protesters should all be put down like rabid dogs has been fired.

Both decisions were good decisions. Police officers do not own the community. They work FOR the community, and the community is the boss, not them. I know that tensions have been running high in Ferguson, but if you threaten to kill people, then you do not deserve to wear a badge under ANY circumstances. End of discussion....... Or is it?

Article is here.
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Still think only the police should have guns? That is the liberal position, isn't it?
 
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X Factor said:
Talking about "not deserving" of a badge. I sincerely have been wondering lately why anyone would even want to wear a badge. Most of the people they're "serving" and "protecting" wouldn't give one tiny rats ass if someone blew them away and certainly wouldn't do anything to prevent it even if they could.
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Yes, if you try to protect the life of an officer you have a good chance of being arrested or even beaten by the cop you saved. It's best to just watch them get killed if they are in danger, sorry. :shrug:
 
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X Factor said:
Yep, any displays of humanity while wearing a badge makes you a worthless waste of oxygen. Maybe if we're lucky, they'll do the honorable thing, right? When was the last time someone expressed sadness over a cop losing his/her life or acknowledging a job well done? Actually, getting away from law enforcement is probably the best thing to happen to them. I swear they should all just walk off the job since almost nobody gives a **** about what happens to them anyway.
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Sorry but I disagree with you--using the context of the OP, of course.

What is needed is more hard core, intensive training followed by a more attractive salary for what police do. Only top quality people should be police officers and the training should weed out the undesirables.
 
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X Factor said:
Yep, any displays of humanity while wearing a badge makes you a worthless waste of oxygen. Maybe if we're lucky, they'll do the honorable thing, right? When was the last time someone expressed sadness over a cop losing his/her life or acknowledging a job well done? Actually, getting away from law enforcement is probably the best thing to happen to them. I swear they should all just walk off the job since almost nobody gives a **** about what happens to them anyway.
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With those two miserable excuses for cops, you are right. Nobody should give a **** what happens to them.
 
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X Factor said:
With zero appreciation.



Oh you're right. They get paid so much that completely makes up for the contempt most people have for them. What gets me is there is apparently no minimum level conduct you all think cops should be treated with. Some guy spits on them, they better ****ing allow it with a smile because anything else is them being criminals themselves.

Incidentally, if posting something angry on social media is criminal conduct, there are a lot of criminals on this very forum (shoot, I break that law pretty nearly every day).
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The idea that there is "zero appreciation" for police officers is just ****ing stupid.
 
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X Factor said:
If you've seen some outpouring of respect or concern for or even just an attempt at understanding the people behind the badge, you've been hanging out where I haven't. Maybe it's the uniform that leads people to believe cops are no longer to be regarded as human and should be discarded with no more concern than one would have over a defective dishwasher.
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Hard to have much respect or concern for faceless entities dressed like Darth Vader and point guns at you and threaten to '****ing kill you'. But maybe you find them sympathetic figures.
 
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danarhea said:
Officer Go **** Yourself has been forced to resign, and another officer who posted on social media sites that the Ferguson protesters should all be put down like rabid dogs has been fired.

Both decisions were good decisions. Police officers do not own the community. They work FOR the community, and the community is the boss, not them. I know that tensions have been running high in Ferguson, but if you threaten to kill people, then you do not deserve to wear a badge under ANY circumstances. End of discussion....... Or is it?

Article is here.
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I've been on police forums, and the notion that the community is "the boss" always gets a good chuckle from the leo members there.
 
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Cardinal said:
I've been on police forums, and the notion that the community is "the boss" always gets a good chuckle from the leo members there.
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Seems kind of self evident that police officers have all the cards in any given situation. They even have a very powerful union to protect them if they do anything wrong.
 
Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

X Factor said:
I hear you. It's just too bad the cops mentioned in this thread did get what they really deserved. Like I said, any cop given to human emotion at all ever should be financially ruined at the very least.

It's not "some people" who don't like cops. It's most people.
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Most people?

I think that's going to an extreme. Most people follow the law and appreciate it when the town they live in is safer at night or when officers do all the many things they need to like direct traffic after an accident, respond to an emergency call.
 
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Cardinal said:
I've been on police forums, and the notion that the community is "the boss" always gets a good chuckle from the leo members there.
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Which is the core of the problem. Not all - but far too many - cops act like invaders and not part of the community they're supposed to serve. It's dangerous and it doesn't reduce crime.

The people are sovereign in this country. Government -including the police - exist to serve the sovereign. We get into trouble because we forget that.
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Most people?

I think that's going to an extreme. Most people follow the law and appreciate it when the town they live in is safer at night or when officers do all the many things they need to like direct traffic after an accident, respond to an emergency call.
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Most people do appreciate the protection of law officers.

However, most of the people who protest government actions by looting and vandalizing property don't appreciate police officers for some reason.
 
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danarhea said:
Officer Go **** Yourself has been forced to resign, and another officer who posted on social media sites that the Ferguson protesters should all be put down like rabid dogs has been fired.

Both decisions were good decisions. Police officers do not own the community. They work FOR the community, and the community is the boss, not them. I know that tensions have been running high in Ferguson, but if you threaten to kill people, then you do not deserve to wear a badge under ANY circumstances. End of discussion....... Or is it?

Article is here.
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I'm generally a great supporter of the various law enforcement entities that keep people safe and able to live normal lives. That's only possible, however, when bad actors are weeded out without delay or excuse. There are bad actors in every profession and walk of life and second chances can be offered, but not in a profession where a gun and a taser are standard equipment and civilian lives are at risk. Whomever the Chief of Police is who made the decisions should be congratulated.
 
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