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Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

EnigmaO01 said:
And still wired in 24/7. It's all part of being a president. And you two make it sound like it's a new thing.
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" Wired in '' ??

What does that mean exactly ? That the President could literally play Golf 8 hours a day everyday and still do his job effectively ?
 
Fenton said:
" Wired in '' ??

What does that mean exactly ? That the President could literally play Golf 8 hours a day everyday and still do his job effectively ?
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Of course not which is why he doesn't play golf EVERYDAY. It's funny though that people say Bush could do work on his ranch everyday when he was there and still be informed, yet the right is now claiming Obama cannot.
 
TheNextEra said:
Of course not which is why he doesn't play golf EVERYDAY. It's funny though that people say Bush could do work on his ranch everyday when he was there and still be informed, yet the right is now claiming Obama cannot.
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Feigning concern over a beheaded journalist so you can yuck it up on a golf course 10 minutes later is damn near sociopathic.
 
Fenton said:
Feigning concern over a beheaded journalist so you can yuck it up on a golf course 10 minutes later is damn near sociopathic.
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Your opinion noted. People deal with grief, stress, frustration, and loss in many different ways. Since when did you become a psycology expert?
 
TheNextEra said:
Your opinion noted. People deal with grief, stress, frustration, and loss in many different ways. Since when did you become a psycology expert?
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LOL !!

You'll say just about anything to defend the indefensible.
 
Fenton said:
Feigning concern over a beheaded journalist so you can yuck it up on a golf course 10 minutes later is damn near sociopathic.
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Did you pull this out of your own ass or someone else's?
 
Here is how the American people feel about the apparent lack of strategy in dealing with ISIS:

Seventy-three percent (73%) of voters are concerned that the United States does not have a strategy for dealing with this military group, with 47% who are Very Concerned. Twenty-five percent (25%) are not concerned by this lack of a strategy, but that includes only four percent (4%) who are Not At All Concerned.

73% Worry About Obama
 
TheNextEra said:
Your opinion noted. People deal with grief, stress, frustration, and loss in many different ways. Since when did you become a psycology expert?
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Obama seems to have been dealing with grief, stress, frustration, and loss a great deal for the amount of time he spends at fund raiser and on the golf course.

This is very similar to when he gave a shout out when learning about the dead at Fort Hood. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYldhOp1p34 There is very little positive we can say about this man's judgement and character.
 
TheNextEra said:
Your opinion noted. People deal with grief, stress, frustration, and loss in many different ways. Since when did you become a psycology expert?
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Yeah, I agree, when Obama has a crisis on his hands he goes and plays golf. And if one round is not enough to stay away from the problem he's plays another round.
 
Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

ObamacareFail said:
You are clueless. You are even including embassy level? You think we are causing terrorism by not acting as isolationists? You eventually need to learn what motivates fanatical Islamic terrorists. It is not US moves in the middle east. And what Russia and China say about it is not relevant as they have political motives of their own. It is radical ideology that motivates Islamic terrorists.....nothing more....nothing less. And once again, they do not represent any given nation much less the middle east. They represent a radical version of islam. They are not rational. Neither are you when you attempt to justify their terrorism by blaming it on the US.
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Who said anything about being isolationist. I don't wish for that. Many covert operations come out our embassies though, think Benghazi, and arms smuggling to the rebels in Syria. US intrigue at the embassy in Iraq that led to Hussein's invasion of Kuwait. Victoria Nuland's work in Kiev pre Maiden Square.
 
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ObamacareFail said:
So...when did we march in Syria? When will the progressives work it out that these fanatical Islamic terrorist groups do not just spring up out of thin air. We did not create them. Nor did we create the power vacuum in Syria.
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No, we did not create ISIS, MEK, the Taliban, al Qaeda, MB, etc, etc. we do however create climates by which they thrive in. And that's a fact.
 
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Montecresto said:
No, we did not create ISIS, MEK, the Taliban, al Qaeda, MB, etc, etc. we do however create climates by which they thrive in. And that's a fact.
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What is the best way to NOT create a climate which they thrive in - in your opinion?
 
Fenton said:
LOL !!

You'll say just about anything to defend the indefensible.
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And we know you'll have faux outrage over ANYTHING Obama does. Fact is other presidents have done the SAME thing and your OBama Deranged Syndrome comments are simply illogical since you have given a free pass for Bush.
 
Grant said:
There is very little positive we can say about this man's judgement and character.
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Of course there is because he has a "D" in from of his name. Conservatives such as yourself hate that.
 
Born Free said:
Yeah, I agree, when Obama has a crisis on his hands he goes and plays golf. And if one round is not enough to stay away from the problem he's plays another round.
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Yep just like Bush ran to his ranch house and of course conservatives voted the man in twice for that.
 
Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

polgara said:
Good morning, ocean515. :2wave:

Well said! :thumbs: With all the potential powerhouses of the world aligning against them - or so it would appear - you would hope that they don't do something incredibly stupid in desperation - like blowing up the oil fields. Everyone loses. :thumbdown:
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Hi Polgara :2wave:

In the coming years and decades, the world is going to transition away from the oil the region produces. That is reality. In the mean time, those products are necessary to fuel the economic engine that will allow this transition to take place. Survival of the fittest, a tenet of mankind.

If ISIL and others want to play games, so be it. However, if they want to control the world, I believe the world will be willing to speed up Nature's effort to make them another dead end branch on the human family tree.
 
Texmex said:
This isn't false, you've proven it.

You lament the loss of Iraqi lives complaining that our troops aren't being killed right along side of them. Of course had we not left Iraq, you would be complaining that Obama had not followed the Bush exit plan. At least admit there is absolutely no action Obama could take that you wouldn't gripe and complain.
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They would have preferred that we left a 50-70K residual force and remained until, well until Iraq could stand. Which of course would have been not unlike Germany and South Korea.
 
Texmex said:
Grant doesn't care. Using the lives of the American soldier to score political points is par for the course for his kind.
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He's always committing US troops, not sure how many Canadians died in the ME in the last couple decades.
 
Texmex said:
Did you pull this out of your own ass or someone else's?
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Is a nonsensical ad hominem attack the best you can do ?
 
Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

ocean515 said:
Well, the West and the World certainly thinks that.

As I wrote MC, I believe the West, by and large, couldn't care less about how quickly the many cultures in the Middle East are trying to remove themselves from the gene pool. Obviously, it probably is reasonable to assume the West would rather not have to do business with those who view human life, and gender, through such perverted eyes. However, history shows the West has been more than willing to exchange dollars for barrels of oil and leave them to their run to extinction. The challenge is that the World needs the benefits to society that their products provide.

The World is not going to sacrifice itself so the cretins that are currently flexing their muscles can do their thing.
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Hey, at least your honest. Many with your political opinion would hide from that. I wonder if you'd be as understanding, should any other group of countries decide one day that their need for American natural resources should supersede our ownership and possession.
 
TheNextEra said:
And we know you'll have faux outrage over ANYTHING Obama does. Fact is other presidents have done the SAME thing and your OBama Deranged Syndrome comments are simply illogical since you have given a free pass for Bush.
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He just made a speech where he talked about a plan to make the Isis threat more " manageable ".

When did it evet become unmanageable ? He had a damn year.

He KNEW the situation was getting worse.

This is why its SO Important to elect a QUALIFIED President
 
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polgara said:
Good morning, ocean515. :2wave:

Well said! :thumbs: With all the potential powerhouses of the world aligning against them - or so it would appear - you would hope that they don't do something incredibly stupid in desperation - like blowing up the oil fields. Everyone loses. :thumbdown:
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The US has been about the exploitation of the Middle East oil since the close of WW2, and denying the USSR access to it. Can't conceive of what is well said in a post that candidly acknowledges that Western countries are fighting in the Middle East, killing and being killed to secure (read: steal) the free flow and supply of oil to the world.
 
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Ockham said:
What is the best way to NOT create a climate which they thrive in - in your opinion?
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IMO, stop removing stabilising forces like Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad! But that's only been pointed out endlessly.

The Rise of ISIS: US Invasion of Iraq, Foreign Backing of Syrian Rebels Helped Fuel Jihadis’ Advance.

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/8/13/the_rise_of_isis_us_invasion

In any case, ISIS has found an even stronger foothold in Iraq than Syria, a direct consequence of the U.S. invasion and occupation. In a profile of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, a one-time moderate Sufi turned Salafist extremist, the New York Times observed, “At every turn, Mr. Baghdadi’s rise has been shaped by the United States’ involvement in Iraq — most of the political changes that fueled his fight, or led to his promotion, were born directly from some American action.”

http://www.delgazette.com/news/opin...-ISIS-highlights-irony-of-U.S.-foreign-policy.
 
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Montecresto said:
Hey, at least your honest. Many with your political opinion would hide from that. I wonder if you'd be as understanding, should any other group of countries decide one day that their need for American natural resources should supersede our ownership and possession.
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You see, the key here is that we have this really massive stick we can use if need be. It's how the world turns. Everyone can get along and reap the rewards from our mutual respect, or we can go the other way.
 
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