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Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

It's not that hard to read. Georgia fired the first shots of that war. You could say they were provoked, but they fired first. Russian troops were there under the auspices of an agreement they had reached with Georgia with regards to South Ossetia. Georgia pulled out of the agreement (unilaterally), and decided that firing on the Russians was a good idea. Which it wasn't.

Yeah, and in a fight you throw the first punch.

Also, it's not difficult to figure out you're being attacked before you're actually attacked.

If some dude came at me talking a bunch of random nonsense and I felt physically threatened I would knock his ass out - sure dude may have not thrown the first punch but........ That is the same situation when it comes to the Georgia/Russia conflict...
 
You're kidding right? An anonymous source and two blogs? Seriously? Wow such low standards.

I rest my case. There is no proof that the west was involved in overthrow of the Ukrainian government, protests, etc. etc. None! You people are just making stuff up to fit what you want to believe. You'd make state run Russian news proud!

Yats is a blatant toadie. Just look at the partners for his foundation:

Partners - Open Ukraine: Arseniy Yatsenyuk foundation

One of his biggest backers is Ukrainian oligarch Victor Pinchuk, a close friend of the Clintons:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/13/u...ian-executive-with-ties-to-clintons.html?_r=0

Pinchuk also is founder of the group YES-Ukraine, which includes many current and former high-level European officials on its board:

YES Board - About YES - YES

No wonder Yats was "the guy" for the West!
 
No you don't see it for what it is..... The Ukraine was NEVER a threat to Russia and Russia is the aggressor...

Russia is being a bully, they pulled the same crap with Georgia 5-6 years ago.....

The most ironic part is I bet you're anti-bullying to boot.

And as evidenced by your support of US meddling and interference in the ME and Kiev, I can see that you aren't anti bullying.
 
That is such twisted logic...

No, Putin want's the Ukraine for it's resources - resources he can use to expand his desire to manifest a USSRII..

I don't fail to realize anything - what I see is a sovereign nation being hijacked and bullied.

Russia is **** and Putin is **** and if I was president none of this would even be happening now...

Oh and the UN - well they can suck my middle finger.. What are they going to do? sanction the US? yeah right!

Are you at all aware of the resources that US industry is interested in there? Or the money they were investing just prior to and during US intrigue in Kiev last fall?
 
And as evidenced by your support of US meddling and interference in the ME and Kiev, I can see that you aren't anti bullying.

Yeah well we're not reaching for a land grab to build a "Union."
 
You really do dislike your country, don't you? It's a shame. Fortunately not everyone thinks like you do.

He hates his country with a passion unmatched by even the most ardent fan of Vladamir Putin. It's a gut level hatred that is not ever tested by facts or the real world.
 
Yeah well we're not reaching for a land grab to build a "Union."

Oh, but that's not true. It's just that its done far more craftier.


Behind the U.S.-backed coup that ousted the democratically elected president of Ukraine are the economic interests of giant corporations – from Cargill to Chevron – which see the country as a potential “gold mine” of profits from agricultural and energy exploitation, reports JP Sottile.

http://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/16/corporate-interests-behind-ukraine-putsch/
 
And as evidenced by your support of US meddling and interference in the ME and Kiev, I can see that you aren't anti bullying.

I'm not "meddling" in anything and honestly if I was in Obamy's position Putin and this whole Ukraine nonsense would be a non-issue.

Obama is an idiot.
 
Oh, but that's not true. It's just that its done far more craftier.


Behind the U.S.-backed coup that ousted the democratically elected president of Ukraine are the economic interests of giant corporations – from Cargill to Chevron – which see the country as a potential “gold mine” of profits from agricultural and energy exploitation, reports JP Sottile.

Corporate Interests Behind Ukraine Putsch | Consortiumnews

Exploitation for sure...
 
Neither the whole of Ukraine will be in Russia, you remember that also.

Well, not even Putin himself has declared that the whole of Ukraine will be in Russia. He's got his warm water ports, mission accomplished.
 
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Yeah, and in a fight you throw the first punch.

Also, it's not difficult to figure out you're being attacked before you're actually attacked.

If some dude came at me talking a bunch of random nonsense and I felt physically threatened I would knock his ass out - sure dude may have not thrown the first punch but........ That is the same situation when it comes to the Georgia/Russia conflict...

Yes, diplomacy in perfection.
 
He hates his country with a passion unmatched by even the most ardent fan of Vladamir Putin. It's a gut level hatred that is not ever tested by facts or the real world.

Ah yes. Ever face your fear in the eye? The Ukraine has again made accusations against Russia, and Russia is denying them. Why is it automatic with you and others that the Ukraine is telling the truth and Russia is lying?
 
I'm not "meddling" in anything and honestly if I was in Obamy's position Putin and this whole Ukraine nonsense would be a non-issue.

Obama is an idiot.

I didn't say that YOU are meddling, but that you support US meddling.
 
I'm not "meddling" in anything and honestly if I was in Obamy's position Putin and this whole Ukraine nonsense would be a non-issue.

Obama is an idiot.

How so?
 
Apparently, you aren't aware of the history of NATO. GHWBUSH promised Gorbachev that their would be no NATO expansion eastward as the Soviet Union withdrew their troops (some 350,000) from Eastern Europe. We all have seen how that worked out, and this latest was yet another expansion to the east that Russia is attempting to check. But as I said before, it doesn't matter what you and I think, Putin clearly saw the events that unfolded last fall and winter as a Western backed coup to topple the Ukrainian government and install a pro-West government, and he has said so, Lavrov has said so, and they have called bull**** and responded accordingly.

Great! None of that proves Western involvement in the overthrow of Yanukovych, and none of that justifies Russia conquering part of a sovereign nation.
 
Great! None of that proves Western involvement in the overthrow of Yanukovych, and none of that justifies Russia conquering part of a sovereign nation.

As a matter of fact, you go ahead and continue apologising while Obama continues overthrowing governments. Ukraine is done, Venezuela and Syria are still ongoing.
 
WASHINGTON'S ROLE in the fascist putsch against the elected government in Ukraine will surprise only those who watch the news and ignore the historical record. Since 1945, dozens of governments, many of them democracies, have met a similar fate, usually with bloodshed.

http://www.independentaustralia.net.../us-dominance-and-australias-secret-coup,6300


The disposal of the Ukrainian government of President Viktor Yanukovych last week by neocon operatives from within the US state department and European government structures was a violation of international law with total impunity by the US - the conspiracy breached Articles 2(4) and 2(7) of the UN Charter that require all UN member states to respect the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of other states, and to desist from intervening in domestic affairs of any member states respectively. The US and European Union (EU) countries need to be held answerable for the despicable, criminal breach. - See more at: http://www.dailynews.lk/?q=features/defeat-neocon-conspiracy-ukraine#sthash.5r4y8Jyh.dpuf
 
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