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$350,000 to sue President Obama

I didn't say they didn't have a right to, I said it was a waste of money regardless of whether it is public funds or not. It still will accomplish ZERO. Those are facts and will hurt the GOP more than help them. People are tired of political games and the GOP is playing a big one right now. Instead of focusing on jobs and the economy, the GOP is focusing on suing Obama. Well, the GOP has snatched defeat from victory before, they are quite good at it.

Well then you should be happy about it and encouraging more of the same.
 
Bring a lawsuit IS constitutional. Any person can do it. The purpose of the judicial branch is to settle disputes under the constitution.

I said they are not using their Constitutional powers, not that it is unconstitutional for them to bring a lawsuit. There is a distinction there. Also, they may not be able to bring the suit on behalf of Congress, since it is only the House and does not include the Senate. Either way, big waste of time.
 
I said they are not using their Constitutional powers, not that it is unconstitutional for them to bring a lawsuit. There is a distinction there. Also, they may not be able to bring the suit on behalf of Congress, since it is only the House and does not include the Senate. Either way, big waste of time.

What constitutional power does congress have to force the Executive branch to enforce a law thats already law?
 
Well then you should be happy about it and encouraging more of the same.

Why would I be happy over wasted money? Oh wait, you see "left" in my lean and automatically assume I support Obama and the Dems right? You might want to check my posts before you make such an assumption.
 
Why would I be happy over wasted money? Oh wait, you see "left" in my lean and automatically assume I support Obama and the Dems right? You might want to check my posts before you make such an assumption.

I don't see your posts unless I decide to look at them individually. You're on my ignore list because I have seen your posts.
 
What constitutional power does congress have to force the Executive branch to enforce a law thats already law?

They didn't have to fund the Obamacare law, but they did. They have "the power of the purse strings", and chose to fund it anyway, even though they have vote 50 time to repeal it.
 
And therein lies the problem. Besides being a waste, they are not using the powers given to them by the Constitution. They are dumping their responsibilities on the Judicial branch. I expect they will just say that they are not going to touch it, there's no basis for the suite, or something along those lines. They have the power of the purse strings, and have refused to use it. They can't just ask another branch to do their dirty work.

Not to mention the fact that the lawsuit will not even make it on the docket. Why? Because the House of Representatives doesn't have standing to file the suit. This stunt is nothing more than riling up the base for the November elections. And why not? I kinda like it. LOL.
 
So that excuses wasting more money? Look if this was trying to impeach the president, I wouldn't agree with it but I would have more respect for it. This lawsuit accomplishes nothing and is just a waste of money. It's all a game of political theater and is a waste of money. Your excuse for this is basically "Well he did it, so we can to".

This isn't tax payer money, and even if it was what is everyone supposed to do, sit around and do nothing because it costs? This is the result of Obama's administration. Expect much more to come.

I suspect a post-january Congress is going to be distressing for you.
 
Not to mention the fact that the lawsuit will not even make it on the docket. Why? Because the House of Representatives doesn't have standing to file the suit. This stunt is nothing more than riling up the base for the November elections. And why not? I kinda like it. LOL.

It has yet to be determined if the House has standing or not. We won't know that until a Court makes such a determination.

If the House chooses to file a lawsuit against President Obama, it will face what may prove to be an insurmountable hurdle in establishing standing. To be sure, President Obama has expanded executive power at the expense of the separation of powers that the Founders so carefully devised in the Constitution, but while the merits of any lawsuit against President Obama for abusive unilateral actions may seem clear, the issue of congressional standing is anything but that.

The House will have to demonstrate to a court’s satisfaction that as an institution, it has been personally harmed by President Obama’s actions, which have effectively nullified the votes of its members, leaving it little recourse to rectify this injustice without court intervention. Such a lawsuit would require the courts to police the limits of the political branches’ powers, and overcoming the natural reluctance of courts to get involved in disputes that have political overtones involving the other branches of government will not be easy.

Boehner v. Obama: Forcing the President to Comply with the Law
 
I don't see your posts unless I decide to look at them individually. You're on my ignore list because I have seen your posts.

Ah so you just make assumptions on the fly without checking beforehand to see if your comments are full of ****. I'll remember that next time that you don't do any fact checking before accusing someone.
 
This isn't tax payer money, and even if it was what is everyone supposed to do, sit around and do nothing because it costs? This is the result of Obama's administration. Expect much more to come.

I suspect a post-january Congress is going to be distressing for you.

Again, I didn't say ANYTHING about public money, I said it was a waste of money period. Just another example of why the duopoly system of the Dems AND GOP is corrupt and not interested in solving real problems.

The rest of your post is just more rhetoric because whether the Dems or GOP is running things is irrelevent as BOTH are for BIG government for their pet projects and BOTH are corrupt as hell. But then we know you love corruption as long as it is YOUR guys that are in charge and corrupt.
 
They didn't have to fund the Obamacare law, but they did. They have "the power of the purse strings", and chose to fund it anyway, even though they have vote 50 time to repeal it.

How would that force him to enforce the laws? That would PREVENT him.
 
Isn't that the idea, to stop Obamacare?

No, the lawsuit is to stop Obama from changing Obamacare without congressional approval. Some republicans believe in defunding it, but thats not the mainstream opinion. They believe in repealing or replacing it, but if they cant, they beleive in funding the laws as passed. I dont want to refight Obamacare though. Its two separate issues, stupid laws, and executive overreach. The subject doesnt matter. If the President is illegally acting, he has to be challenged. He think its legal, therefore congress can either pass a law saying it isnt, or ask the court to decide the issue. Hopefully Obama would obey a court order. The same thing happend with the gulf drilling moritorum. The exec did not have the power to do it, and someone challenged it, and the court agreed. Then the exec ignored the court and so they were held in contempt.
 
I don't remember all this hand wringing on the left when congressional Democrats sued President Bush over his cancellation of the ABM treaty.

House Democrats Sue President Bush Over Withdrawal From ABM Treaty (Desperation Tactics 2002)

Nor when Nancy Pelosi was threatening to sue the White House over the Attorney General's refusal to take up a House motion to investigate President Bush.

Pelosi Pledges to Sue White House Over AG's Refusal to Investigate Bush Advisers | Fox News

"Waste of time and money" I hear them bellow now, yet they were cheering from the bleachers when the shoe was on the other foot and it was that Satanic Bush that was being sued.

I said this suit is political theater, which it is. Those suits were also political theater, and I wonder how many left wingers on here said as much at the time.

Both sides engage in political theater, and it's dishonest to say otherwise.

Back to this suit - it's political theater.
 
I said this suit is political theater, which it is. Those suits were also political theater, and I wonder how many left wingers on here said as much at the time.

Both sides engage in political theater, and it's dishonest to say otherwise.

Back to this suit - it's political theater.

Fair enough, but then every civil suit is a bit of theater in its own right. Personally, I have no objection to people legally challenging a head of state who is thought to be acting outside of the law - keeps them honest and let's the regular riff-raff like me know there's someone minding the business of government.
 
Fair enough, but then every civil suit is a bit of theater in its own right. Personally, I have no objection to people legally challenging a head of state who is thought to be acting outside of the law - keeps them honest and let's the regular riff-raff like me know there's someone minding the business of government.

I'm sure a lot of civil suits are theater too. But I don't know.

This is theater. And I like Boehner. Just like what Pelosi wanted to do, and what the House Dems did to Bush...theater.

I don't think it helps anyone. JMO.
 
I'm sure a lot of civil suits are theater too. But I don't know.

This is theater. And I like Boehner. Just like what Pelosi wanted to do, and what the House Dems did to Bush...theater.

I don't think it helps anyone. JMO.

If someone hadn't taken the President to court, his stacked Labor Relations Board would have gone unchallenged and it would have set a precedent for future Presidents to declare the Senate in recess. Sometimes theater has principle behind it.
 
If someone hadn't taken the President to court, his stacked Labor Relations Board would have gone unchallenged and it would have set a precedent for future Presidents to declare the Senate in recess. Sometimes theater has principle behind it.

I understand that. You seem agitated by my posts. If I truly believed that the Republican House members are truly worried about a precedent being set for future Presidents, I'd say this isn't theater. But I don't believe that.
 
I understand that. You seem agitated by my posts. If I truly believed that the Republican House members are truly worried about a precedent being set for future Presidents, I'd say this isn't theater. But I don't believe that.

No, I'm not agitated by your posts - you have your view and I have mine - I simply responded to you because you responded to my post about previous Democrat suits against President Bush. I'm not upset nor am I challenging your initial position that it's political theater and I'm not sure why you'd feel that way. But it's all good with me.
 
Again, I didn't say ANYTHING about public money, I said it was a waste of money period. Just another example of why the duopoly system of the Dems AND GOP is corrupt and not interested in solving real problems.

The rest of your post is just more rhetoric because whether the Dems or GOP is running things is irrelevent as BOTH are for BIG government for their pet projects and BOTH are corrupt as hell. But then we know you love corruption as long as it is YOUR guys that are in charge and corrupt.

I know this is hard for a lefty but never mind how other people spend their own money. Its not your business to cry about.
For the record-its OBAMA who is corrupt and fighting these criminals does not just benefit republicans, it benefits everyone. You should be thanking them.
 
I said this suit is political theater, which it is. Those suits were also political theater, and I wonder how many left wingers on here said as much at the time.

Both sides engage in political theater, and it's dishonest to say otherwise.

Back to this suit - it's political theater.

Whats the alternative?
 
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