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Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732]

Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

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You need to put your /sarc on ... you rascal.
You sounded exactly as ridiculous as Apdst would...
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Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

I wasn't really being sarcastic...I was talking about Wilson
Got it...
My bad.
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Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

I would have to see some VERY different evidence from what I have seen to date to change my mind.
How about you? If Wilson is convicted will you agree with me that he is a murderer?

Well if you are depending on the MSM such as WaPo, Huffo Puffo, and for the love of Pete CNN's coverage,it is no wonder you may think you have been provided with such information to already declare Wilson a "murderer". I'm sorry but a good number in the MSM are doing their best to ratchet up racial tensions so you may want to back off and keep your powder dry. However, if at that time evidence is provided that counters Wilson's claims along with multiple witnesses, then yes I am willing to remain open-minded till all evidence is produced. So far, nothing has disproved Wilson's account and those who validate his account.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Got it...
My bad.
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I don't want the point to get buried though, I want it out in the open where it can get blatantly ignored.

The Jennings City Council made the determination that the standard of conduct adopted by the entire department as a whole was in itself misconduct. A "clean" record in that system is by default a record of misconduct.

If he had tried to speak out or criticize the way the department was conducting himself then he very well might have been disciplined in retaliation.

So you, I and anyone with an ounce of impartiality agree that, while it doesn't automatically mean that he is a "bad cop," employment with that particular regime of the Jennings PD is in itself a spot on his record.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

I don't want the point to get buried though, I want it out in the open where it can get blatantly ignored.

The Jennings City Council made the determination that the standard of conduct adopted by the entire department as a whole was in itself misconduct. A "clean" record in that system is by default a record of misconduct.

If he had tried to speak out or criticize the way the department was conducting himself then he very well might have been disciplined in retaliation.

So you, I and anyone with an ounce of impartiality agree that, while it doesn't automatically mean that he is a "bad cop," employment with that particular regime of the Jennings PD is in itself a spot on his record.

Bullcrap! If he personally wasn't involved in any wrongdoing in a police department prior to his position at Ferguson then that equates to pure slander. Period.

Some news organizations have gone as far as checking out his life as a minor and when he was a minor his mother was arrested for money scams. She didn't go to jail but was put on probation. But they have tried their damndist to soil his reputation with what his mother did when he was a minor. They are doing the same thing here by equating a police department that he previously worked for with problems even though he was never part of wrong doing but that hasn't stopped them from trying to paint him in a bad light. That is absurd and unjustified. At anytime any of us can find ourselves working for someone that does questionable things. Does that mean we were directly part of it? Hell no. Get a grip and while you are at it how about a dose of perspective.
 
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Bullcrap! If he personally wasn't involved in any wrongdoing in a police department prior to his position at Ferguson then that is pure slander. Period.

Some news organizations have gone as far as checking out his life as a minor and when he was a minor his mother was arrested for money scams. She didn't go to jail but was put on probation. But they have tried their damndist to soil his reputation with what his mother did when he was a minor. They are doing the same thing here by equating a police department that he previously worked for with problems even though he was never part of them trying to paint him in a bad light. That is absurd and unjustified. At anytime any of us can find ourselves working for someone that does questionable things. Does that mean we were directly part of it? Hell no. Get a grip and while you are at it how about a dose of perspective.
Teach me about perspective oh won't you please.
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Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Teach me about perspective oh won't you please.
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When you have people looting stores , throwing Molotov cocktails burning small businesses down, when you have protestors firing arms at police, when you have a group of protestors where the majority are from out of town gang bangers causing the trouble, when you have race baiters showing up on the scene to ractchet up the rhetoric, WTF do you expect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Well if you are depending on the MSM such as WaPo, Huffo Puffo, and for the love of Pete CNN's coverage,it is no wonder you may think you have been provided with such information to already declare Wilson a "murderer". I'm sorry but a good number in the MSM are doing their best to ratchet up racial tensions so you may want to back off and keep your powder dry. However, if at that time evidence is provided that counters Wilson's claims along with multiple witnesses, then yes I am willing to remain open-minded till all evidence is produced. So far, nothing has disproved Wilson's account and those who validate his account.
Just what is "Wilson's account"? He never wrote a report or did an interview. Funny that you mentioned CNN ... that is where the "Josie" interview got national coverage and that is a recording that is being championed as "Wilson's account " although it has never been authenticated by anyone.
When I did watch Fox news I got a story about Wilson being beaten so badly that his eye socket bone was "blown out". that has been subsequently de-bunked. I don't know of any CNN story that missed the accuracy mark by that much.
At least six eye-witnesses whose accounts generally agree that Wilson shot this jaywalking thug while he was surrendering, pretty much disproves whatever we are calling Wilson's version of a justified homicide.
Unless of course you are claiming that no witness account can be "right " unless it comes from a "white".
Not making any racist accusations, but how else do you dismiss that many different people giving roughly the same eye-witness account of what they saw?
I don't believe HufPo and WaPo are really the problem with ratcheting up racial tensions when all witness accounts are summarily dismissed by so many conservative outlets when the only common denominator they share is the completion of their skin..
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Just what is "Wilson's account"? He never wrote a report or did an interview. Funny that you mentioned CNN ... that is where the "Josie" interview got national coverage and that is a recording that is being championed as "Wilson's account " although it has never been authenticated by anyone.
When I did watch Fox news I got a story about Wilson being beaten so badly that his eye socket bone was "blown out". that has been subsequently de-bunked. I don't know of any CNN story that missed the accuracy mark by that much.
At least six eye-witnesses whose accounts generally agree that Wilson shot this jaywalking thug while he was surrendering, pretty much disproves whatever we are calling Wilson's version of a justified homicide.
Unless of course you are claiming that no witness account can be "right " unless it comes from a "white".
Not making any racist accusations, but how else do you dismiss that many different people giving roughly the same eye-witness account of what they saw?
I don't believe HufPo and WaPo are really the problem with ratcheting up racial tensions when all witness accounts are summarily dismissed by so many conservative outlets when the only common denominator they share is the completion of their skin..
this could potentially be a clever strategy
throw out a third person trial balloon and see what kind of response it receives before issuing an official first person accounting of the event
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Just what is "Wilson's account"? He never wrote a report or did an interview. Funny that you mentioned CNN ... that is where the "Josie" interview got national coverage and that is a recording that is being championed as "Wilson's account " although it has never been authenticated by anyone.
When I did watch Fox news I got a story about Wilson being beaten so badly that his eye socket bone was "blown out". that has been subsequently de-bunked. I don't know of any CNN story that missed the accuracy mark by that much.
At least six eye-witnesses whose accounts generally agree that Wilson shot this jaywalking thug while he was surrendering, pretty much disproves whatever we are calling Wilson's version of a justified homicide.
Unless of course you are claiming that no witness account can be "right " unless it comes from a "white".
Not making any racist accusations, but how else do you dismiss that many different people giving roughly the same eye-witness account of what they saw?
I don't believe HufPo and WaPo are really the problem with ratcheting up racial tensions when all witness accounts are summarily dismissed by so many conservative outlets when the only common denominator they share is the completion of their skin..
First off you were the one that was ready to accuse the officer of murder. How you can justify that before all the facts are made known is beyond my comprehension.
Second, the media coverage of this event has been salacious to say the least because it is a white cop killing an unarmed black man.
Third, statistics prove out that more blacks are killed by other blacks than anyone else.
Fourth, there have been a number of reports over the last couple of years showing unjustified actions of some police. However, that doesn't automatically mean that Officer Wilson was acting as such. Jeesh. You keep this crap up and there will be no officer willing to patrol crappy neighborhoods in the furture in fear of being laid on the chopping block for doing their job! And considering most lay their lives on the line for a mere 38,000 to 45,000 a year who the hell could blame them!
Fifth, let the evidence come forward before making judgments. The media wants to sell papers, add to their viewership etc. They aren't really interesting in the truth just what will make them money.
 
You keep saying this, but I don't really believe you anymore, given previous encounters on the same point.

Says the opne making the false claims. :doh
That is a problem with how you read and interpret things.
Not my problem that you are wrong.
 
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Bullcrap! If he personally wasn't involved in any wrongdoing in a police department prior to his position at Ferguson then that equates to pure slander. Period.
By "personally"...you really mean uniquely... and that is bullcrap.
Wilson was personally part of a thug organization who were ALL fired for their "thuggish" and racist behaviors" and not being uniquely singled out for discipline, does not exonerate him for the offenses they were all disciplined for.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

this could potentially be a clever strategy
throw out a third person trial balloon and see what kind of response it receives before issuing an official first person accounting of the event

That is exactly how I saw it.
There is no risk in putting out a complete story with full anonymity and no accounting for the sources. Just to test the waters.
I expect to see several more versions of Wilson apologists scenarios before we get anything official.
 
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Bullcrap! If he personally wasn't involved in any wrongdoing in a police department prior to his position at Ferguson then that equates to pure slander. Period.

Some news organizations have gone as far as checking out his life as a minor and when he was a minor his mother was arrested for money scams. She didn't go to jail but was put on probation. But they have tried their damndist to soil his reputation with what his mother did when he was a minor. They are doing the same thing here by equating a police department that he previously worked for with problems even though he was never part of wrong doing but that hasn't stopped them from trying to paint him in a bad light. That is absurd and unjustified. At anytime any of us can find ourselves working for someone that does questionable things. Does that mean we were directly part of it? Hell no. Get a grip and while you are at it how about a dose of perspective.

I think the point he's trying to make is that if the entire police department he was part of is/was in the wrong in some way, how can we fully trust any of it's members?
 
Says the opne making the false claims. :doh
That is a problem with how you read and interpret things.
Not my problem that you are wrong.
I have made no false claims, to my knowledge. If I have, please point them out.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

By "personally"...you really mean uniquely... and that is bullcrap.
Wilson was personally part of a thug organization who were ALL fired for their "thuggish" and racist behaviors" and not being uniquely singled out for discipline, does not exonerate him for the offenses they were all disciplined for.

And your response sir, is a prime example of the power of media to portray a person in a bad light. You don't know anything for certain that you just spewed, but by golly because it fits into what your mindset is, you will run with it. Thank goodness the justice system doesn't have your set of standards.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

First off you were the one that was ready to accuse the officer of murder. How you can justify that before all the facts are made known is beyond my comprehension.
Second, the media coverage of this event has been salacious to say the least because it is a white cop killing an unarmed black man.
Third, statistics prove out that more blacks are killed by other blacks than anyone else.
Fourth, there have been a number of reports over the last couple of years showing unjustified actions of some police. However, that doesn't automatically mean that Officer Wilson was acting as such. Jeesh. You keep this crap up and there will be no officer willing to patrol crappy neighborhoods in the furture in fear of being laid on the chopping block for doing their job! And considering most lay their lives on the line for a mere 38,000 to 45,000 a year who the hell could blame them!
Fifth, let the evidence come forward before making judgments. The media wants to sell papers, add to their viewership etc. They aren't really interesting in the truth just what will make them money.
Maybe some diligence against the apathy that gives these cops free reign will give them pause to think about it before the beat the crap out of minor offenders or kill the next unarmed black kid.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

I think the point he's trying to make is that if the entire police department he was part of is/was in the wrong in some way, how can we fully trust any of it's members?

Here's a thought, before trying to demean the character of the police officer, how about waiting for all the evidence to come out.
 
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And your response sir, is a prime example of the power of media to portray a person in a bad light. You don't know anything for certain that you just spewed, but by golly because it fits into what your mindset is, you will run with it. Thank goodness the justice system doesn't have your set of standards.
You mean criminal justice system.

There will be a civil suit.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Here's a thought, before trying to demean the character of the police officer, how about waiting for all the evidence to come out.
I'm just attempting to translate.

So far as I can see there's no way to tell one way or another at this point if anyone, both, or one of the involved parties is at fault.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

I'm just attempting to translate.

So far as I can see there's no way to tell one way or another at this point if anyone, both, or one of the involved parties is at fault.
If we ignore the people who saw it happen, then sure.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

You mean criminal justice system.

There will be a civil suit.

That isn't uncommon. Depending on how strong the evidence is to exonerate the officer. And no doubt with all the race baiters involved in this case, and a media hell bent on stoking the fires, there will probably be a civil suit after the Grand Jury can find no just cause to charge the officer.
 
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