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Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732]

Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

You are really suffering from that "no click" syndrome that is going around. The HuffPo article I just added directly linked to the PDF file of the 2013 racial profiling report prepared by the MO attorney general.

And you are questioning my objectivity?

Look, your'e new here.

And you seem to be new in general. That is new posting on forums where all sides are allowed to post their opinions. Did you ever take Debate in High School ?

Yea, they ASLO frown on people using highly biased sources so it's just bad form.

So I'm trying to help you out. IF your'e a Liberal, you should refrain from linking to hard core leftist drek Liberal sites like Huff Po, or Media Matters for example.

Same things goes for Righties ( Yay Righties !!! ) Maybe NOT link to Red State.com

Find non-biased sources and you'll retain some semblance of credibility. Post to nonsense sources like HuffPo, and your'e only wasting your time ( your'e preaching to the choir and you can DO THAT at Democrat Underground or the Daily Kos )
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Actually no, I merely answered your question and you grabbed on to some irrelevant information I posted with 1 and 2 as I knew you would.

I only was interested in the very last line in which I directed my comment.

You didn't listen the video to the end, try again particularly at the 35 mark "but he kept coming toward him" which was said

I switched out the video to a shorten version as I didn't really want to post the ugly whole thing, forgot to delete the last line of text. I did not take the liberty of adding anything.
Go here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyEoNbJYMsE advance to the 7:40 mark

witness says - The next thing I know … I’m thinking … the dude started running … (garbled something about “he took it from him”)

The reason why this is important because if Mike Brown had been shot, and he moved towards Wilson instead of surrendering, it would support the narrative that Wilson shot in self-defense due to the fact that he was being threatened with severe bodily harm.

You answered my question by asserting something that is completely bogus. I countered it.

But anyway, I just tried four times to determine with any clarity what was being said, and in what context, at the 7:40 mark. All I can make out underneath the woman screaming at the police because they weren't making any attempt to resuscitate Brown is "running." That's it. But I don't doubt that there are better pairs of ears out there than mine, I just don't hear it, just like I didn't hear "he kept coming toward him."
 
Lol...

Yes, the Officer bumped his noggin on the side view mirror so hard ( when he bolted out of the cruiser blasting away at two innocent " children " :roll: ) that he fractured his orbital socket....

NO ONE believes Johnsons lies anymore ( the door was accidentally kicked close )

Brown had just assaulted a small Clerk, so I'm going to assume ( Ill be proven right of-course ) that Brown attacked the officer and attempted to wrestle away his pistol
Seriously, still going with the fractured orbital socket?
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Let me give this rational thinking you speak of a try:

So we have a police department that has lost the trust of the community because it has a documented history of abuse of authority, excessive force, and blatent displays of disrespect (I'll repost the links to those below), and additionally, exhibits a statistically-evident bias towards blacks when conducting traffic stops ( 21 Numbers That Will Help You Understand Why Ferguson Is About More Than Michael Brown). Based on the above context, the appropriate conclusion to reach is that THE COMMUNITY can't be trusted?

How did I do?

all that info makes me even more certain that an eyewitness account from a community with hatred of police must be considered biased toward the victim in this situation. and since I promise you every piece of evidence(excluding the eyewitness accounts) will point to the officer being justified in shooting the suspect, we can all "rationally" agree the officer is not guilty. that was easy, no?
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

"The eye witness"? There are numerous eye witnesses. The fact that they saw/heard shots being fired with Brown's back turned and mistakenly concluded that he was hit does not discredit their accounts. It's a perfectly natural conclusion to go from "shots fired at someone" to "someone was shot."

Has anyone mentioned the fact that Dorian Johnson's account that Brown "was struck in the chest or upper region [by the first shot in the car] because I saw blood splatter down his side, his right area" is completely consistent with a number of the wounds shown on the autopsy sketch? Or does the fact that Johnson had committed a petty theft a few years ago and gave police a false age and slightly different first name mean that we throw out his entire testimony, in spite of evidence that supports it?
Johnson remains a credible and believable witness...
It amuses me that the right wing is so readily dismissive of his testimony...
I guess he's just not white enough to be right...:lamo:2wave:
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Look, your'e new here.

And you seem to be new in general. That is new posting on forums where all sides are allowed to post their opinions. Did you ever take Debate in High School ?

Yea, they ASLO frown on people using highly biased sources so it's just bad form.

So I'm trying to help you out. IF your'e a Liberal, you should refrain from linking to hard core leftist drek Liberal sites like Huff Po, or Media Matters for example.

Same things goes for Righties ( Yay Righties !!! ) Maybe NOT link to Red State.com

Find non-biased sources and you'll retain some semblance of credibility. Post to nonsense sources like HuffPo, and your'e only wasting your time ( your'e preaching to the choir and you can DO THAT at Democrat Underground or the Daily Kos )
Well unfortunately, there are instances when "reliable" sources like Fox News literally refuse to report on a story that is negative towards Republicans. For example, when a member of the House Intelligence Committee said earlier this month that the Committee found no wrongdoing by the Obama Administration during the Benghazi attacks, Fox News was silent about it for days. So Fox News gets added to the right winger list of no nos.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

So far, as far as I've seen, there's been no evidence released that rules out two broad scenarios: One, that Darren Wilson was being charged and fired because he was being attacked, or two, that Michael Brown was kneeling with his hands up and was shot intentionally twice in the head by officer Wilson.

I hope that, at some point, we learn the exact heights of Brown and Wilson, and the exact trajectory of the bullets through his head. That will determine the relative positions of the two men at the time the fatal shots were fired. Until then, there is no way to rule out either scenario.
The bullet entered the "very top of his head" and "lodged in the front portion of his brain" according to the autopsy.
Brown was well over six feet tall.
The geometry isn't all that controversial.
 
One thing in this whole affair sticks out in my memory.

I was watching the protesters on the second or third night and I saw this old, white, fat, bald headed idiot running around with his hands up in protest.

He would spot the Cameras and raise his hands and head straight towards the lights.

I've known America is inundated with idiots for some time.

I mean a Jr Senator with NO qualifications was elected TWICE to lead our Country.

But that quick 10 seconds of video settled it.

We're screwed.
 
Well unfortunately, there are instances when "reliable" sources like Fox News literally refuse to report on a story that is negative towards Republicans. For example, when a member of the House Intelligence Committee said earlier this month that the Committee found no wrongdoing by the Obama Administration during the Benghazi attacks, Fox News was silent about it for days. So Fox News gets added to the right winger list of no nos.

Those are rare and this story is EVERY WHERE

And do you see me linking to Fox news ?
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

You answered my question by asserting something that is completely bogus. I countered it.

But anyway, I just tried four times to determine with any clarity what was being said, and in what context, at the 7:40 mark. All I can make out underneath the woman screaming at the police because they weren't making any attempt to resuscitate Brown is "running." That's it. But I don't doubt that there are better pairs of ears out there than mine, I just don't hear it, just like I didn't hear "he kept coming toward him."


Awww, because you can't hear even when someone points to the place doesn't mean you countered anything. It's someone telling what happened that fatal day.
 
Those are rare and this story is EVERY WHERE

And do you see me linking to Fox news ?
No, I didn't say you did. You claimed to set some very broad ground rules for what is acceptable and what is not acceptable on this forum. I made.an equally broad comment about Fox News. I hope we are not going to argue about whether conservatives use Fox News as a primary source of information.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

What did the autopsy results say of range? Especially with regard to any stilpling around the wound?
Brown's clothes would tell the range. Baden didn't have access to the clothes.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Awww, because you can't hear even when someone points to the place doesn't mean you countered anything. It's someone telling what happened that fatal day.
If it is written, it must be true. Just like the conservative tree house which originally came up with the transcript. Fenton, is the conservative tree house allowed?

It's a little bit funny how the shortened video itself doesn't even try to caption that part of the video.
 
No, I didn't say you did. You claimed to set some very broad ground rules for what is acceptable and what is not acceptable on this forum. I made.an equally broad comment about Fox News. I hope we are not going to argue about whether conservatives use Fox News as a primary source of information.


Rules ?

You think it's appropriate or even a GOOD idea for Liberals link to sites like HuffPo or Media matters ?

You think overt bias sells your ideas to people who dont share your core ideology ?

Like I said, if you only want to preach to the choir there are better places for doing just that.
 
Rules ?

You think it's appropriate or even a GOOD idea for Liberals link to sites like HuffPo or Media matters ?

You think overt bias sells your ideas to people who dont share your core ideology ?

Like I said, if you only want to preach to the choir there are better places for doing just that.
I think it's a tad overreaching to be eliminating newspapers that have recent Pulitzers.
 
I think it's a tad overreaching to be eliminating newspapers that have recent Pulitzers.
Eliminate Pulitzers too?

:mrgreen:
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

If it is written, it must be true. Just like the conservative tree house which originally came up with the transcript. Fenton, is the conservative tree house allowed?

It's a little bit funny how the shortened video itself doesn't even try to caption that part of the video.

Yes they did come up with the transcript, meh, the progressives put the transcript on the video and still people can't be bothered to listen to the words said until the very end.

And yep the the progressives shorten it just in time to suit themselves, thanked goodness there is still a full length copy available since the original video has been taken down.

So your point was?
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Yes they did come up with the transcript, meh, the progressives put the transcript on the video and still people can't be bothered to listen to the words said until the very end.

And yep the the progressives shorten it just in time to suit themselves, thanked goodness there is still a full length copy available since the original video has been taken down.

So your point was?
My point was responding to the part of my post that you bolded. (???)

I didn't hear anything conclusive whatsoever that the person speaking was saying that Brown was running at Wilson. I think you're stretching if you believe you hear anything coherent, but I acknowledged the fact that I am fallible and my hearing is fallible. What more do you want from me? It's one unidentified witness, who may or may not be agreeing with the four other publicly identified witnesses.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

People say the damndest things when they're lying.

Especially the police department.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Nobody says anything about the numerous eyewitnesses because it doesn't support their narrative that Wilson is innocent. The only witness anyone here is talking about is Johnson and that is clearly because it is easy to attack his credibility on the surface. Silence speaks volumes.

All it would take is a single white person to come out and say they were an eyewitness and agree with Wilson's version, and all the skeletons would come falling out the closet.

But they haven't and that has nothing to do with you pulling out the race card. The race card just hurts your credibility. I don't believe anyone on either side at this point so nobody gets any credibility at this point.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Who has more credibility? A cop with a spotless service record, or an admitted thief? Hmm!

Well, an admitted thief has already told the truth since he admitted to telling the truth. This cop hasn't had the balls to say anything, yet. I guess he needs to get his lie straight before going public.
 
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