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Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732]

Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

sorry you didn't like the link
The examination of the body indicates he was not shot in the back.
In the back? ...No
Forearm from behind? ... Absolutely possible.


You take the news headline as the whole and the end of the story.
Learning the facts takes a little more effort.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

You are correct. I saw Wilson walking around after the shooting. He didn't even put his hand up to his face. I believe this is a right-wing attempt to possibly excuse a murder.
Notice the evolution of this fiction?
A swollen face,
becomes a punch in the eye,
becomes a brutal beating,
becomes a BLOWN OUT ORBITAL FRACTURE OF HIS SKULL...
And then of course Crue Cab's impaired vision theory for why his marksmanship was so bad...
:lamo:lamo:lamo
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Got any proof, or even a statement that anybody "punched " anybody in this case?


No I didn't think so.

Got proof that it didnt happen. Eyewitness state that they fought, ER said his face was swollen. Gee, seems like there may be proof.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Notice the evolution of this fiction?
A swollen face,
becomes a punch in the eye,
becomes a brutal beating,
becomes a BLOWN OUT ORBITAL FRACTURE OF HIS SKULL...
And then of course Crue Cab's impaired vision theory for why his marksmanship was so bad...
:lamo:lamo:lamo
So if he had gotten the gun and killed the officer, you would be just hunky dory with that?
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

In the back? ...No
Forearm from behind? ... Absolutely possible.


You take the news headline as the whole and the end of the story.
Learning the facts takes a little more effort.
Oh, so you were an eye witness. Tell us more of your first hand experience in Ferguson that afternoon. Please.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Got proof that it didnt happen. Eyewitness state that they fought, ER said his face was swollen. Gee, seems like there may be proof.


Witnesses described it as a struggle, tussle or or wrestling. No one called it a "fight" implying fist fight.
Got the ER statement?...

No I didn't think so...

Chief Jackson said that his face was swollen.
 
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Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Got proof that it didnt happen. Eyewitness state that they fought, ER said his face was swollen. Gee, seems like there may be proof.
I don't have any proof that a weasel didn't run up Wilson's pant-leg causing him to bump his head either ...But that doesn't mean that's what happened.
Wrestling, struggle, tussle.. those were the adjectives I heard. Who called it a fight other than yourself?
 
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Their guns don't hold 11 bullets, do they? Policemen don't have assault weapons like citizens do.

They could. Many semi-automatics, including service weapons, hold 10 in the magazine and 1 in the chamber.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Got proof that it didnt happen. Eyewitness state that they fought, ER said his face was swollen. Gee, seems like there may be proof.

I guess this is before it graduated to a beating and then became an orbital fracture.

How long before you claim Wilson was legally blind at the time of the shooting?
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

You do realize that the way you typed that shows us that you think the cop is guilty until proven innocent. We see the fiber of your fabric..

But yes, the Mob must have it's Circus I suppose...
your agreement with my speculation indicates that the fabric we wear is of the same fiber
and no, yours isn't teflon
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Got any proof, or even a statement that anybody "punched " anybody in this case?


No I didn't think so.

Well, Josie's statement, which allegedly matches Darren's statement and would certainly account for whatever injury Wilson has:

"So he goes in reverse back to them. He tries to get out of his car. They slam his door shut violently. I think he said Michael [Brown] did. Then he opens his car again and tries to get out and as he stands up Michael just bum rushes him, and just shoves him back into his car, punches him in the face and then of course Darren grabs for his gun and Michael grabs the gun. At one point he's got the gun totally turned against his hip and then he shoves it away and the gun goes off."

The genesis of this was a physical confrontation," St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar said.

Wilson tries to exit his vehicle but Brown pushes him back into the car, according to the preliminary investigation, Belmar said.

Brown physically assaults the police officer and there is a struggle over the officer's gun, Belmar said.

A shot is fired inside the police car.

BTW, I just noticed that Johnson claims that the gentle giant had been shot while the officer was trying to pull the 300 pound behemoth through a car window (year.. Right...).
Johnson: "My friend, Big Mike, very angrily is trying to pull away from the officer."

The officer draws his weapon. He says "'I'll shoot" or "I'm about to shoot." "I'm standing so close to Big Mike and the officer, I look in his window and I see that he has his gun pointed at both of us. And when he fired his weapon, I moved seconds before he pulled the trigger. I saw the fire come out the barrel and I instinctually knew it was a gun. I looked at my friend Big Mike and saw he was struck in the chest or upper region because I saw blood spatter down his side."

That too seems unlikely. But shouldn't be too difficult to tell.. based on bullet locations.
 
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Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

I guess this is before it graduated to a beating and then became an orbital fracture.

How long before you claim Wilson was legally blind at the time of the shooting?

So you also are an ER doctor. How long before Brown was a straight A student on his way to volunteering at the old folks home just coming from serving homeless veterans at the soup kitchen, forced to the pavement and executed ISIS style.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

I don't have any proof that a weasel didn't run up Wilson's pant-leg causing him to bump his head either ...But that doesn't mean that's what happened.
Wrestling, struggle, tussle.. those were the adjectives I heard. Who called it a fight other than yourself?

Wrestle, struggle, tussle. All adjectives for fighting. Which I may add that any touching of a police officer can be a felony. Attempting to disarm him IS a felony.
 
Hi, new to this forum and making post #1...

HOWEVER...it doesn't take much to see the blatantly disguised racism on display here.

I especially love how eyewitness testimony is inherently black, I mean shoddy. Frickin thugs, maybe they should have thought about the socioeconomic consequences before they decided to be slaves for 300 years and second class citizens for another 150. But it's a frickin moot point, right? They have had 60 years (15%) to "get ahead." They must be some lazy "people," am i rite? rite? 'murica!
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

In the back? ...No
Forearm from behind? ... Absolutely possible.


You take the news headline as the whole and the end of the story.
Learning the facts takes a little more effort.

take your own advice.

One eye witness (also involved in the robbery) made the statement that Brown was shot in the back. The medical examination does not support that statement.

The investigation is not done. People are jumping to conclusions without knowing all the facts. Any eye witness statement needs to be collaborated by other evidence.

I will wait till the investigation is done before having an opinion on if the shooting was justified or not.
 
Their guns don't hold 11 bullets, do they? Policemen don't have assault weapons like citizens do.

The one I usually carry holds 19 rounds if I put one in the chamber. It is a gun police would normally carry.
 
Hi, new to this forum and making post #1...

HOWEVER...it doesn't take much to see the blatantly disguised racism on display here.

I especially love how eyewitness testimony is inherently black, I mean shoddy. Frickin thugs, maybe they should have thought about the socioeconomic consequences before they decided to be slaves for 300 years and second class citizens for another 150. But it's a frickin moot point, right? They have had 60 years (15%) to "get ahead." They must be some lazy "people," am i rite? rite? 'murica!

For a first post you really hit the ground like a big ole bag of mud.
 
Okay, so we know that at least one shot was fired inside the car and missed.
No Moot.
We know only one shot was fired in the vehicle. They then ran. The Officer had to take time to get out of the vehicle and gave chase.
What we do not know is if that was a purposeful shot, who pulled the trigger if the trigger was pulled, or if it was simply a discharge caused by the struggle.
And no, we also know that supposedly someone was supposedly shot. As there was blood coming from them. Only later in another telling does he clarifies his choice of words. It was Brown who had been injured.



But according to the audio the first six shots were fired consecutively which suggests that the first six shots were fired from inside the car and some of them likely hit MB causing him to back away from the car with his hands up in a defensive mode.
No Moot. We know there was one discharge in the vehicle. Not more. We also know that the Officer then exited his vehicle and gave chase before there is another claim of shooting.
For that portion of what Darian stated to be true, this audio has to be absent the first shot.

Secondly, folks are ignoring the most believable witness. He was spontaneous, unreserved, unscripted, uncoached, unrehearsed in telling others what he saw.
He stated that Brown was approaching the Officer as the Officer was firing and thought the Officer was missing. Those shots were so tightly grouped together in sequence that it is exactly what that witness describes. Brown had doubled back and was now approaching as the Officer fired multiple times missing.

Start @ 06:28
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

This new evidence does not, as you claim, particularly back up anything.
1.) You are wrong as it does support the anonymous witnesses account in the video.
2.) And saying something is likely, is not saying it backs anything up. :doh


We don't know what the situation was wherein the office fired more shots.
This is you not knowing the evidence.


Your assertion that it's "likely Brown was still coming after him" is speculation on your part.
Again, you not knowing the evidence,. Brown continued towards the Officer even though the Officer was shooting at him. That is a witnesses account.



Even the audio expert in the source video says that it "tests the credibility of the officer" not that it backs him up.
:lamo The crap you grasp onto. Figures.


You hear what you want, and claim what you think it means based on your own preconceived version of events. The pause doesn't, in fact, prove a thing. It's an audio recording that may show that the officer fired more shots than he said he did. That's a far cry from definitely backing up what he said.
And as shown, you are wrong. :lamo
And you are wrong because you do not know what the known evidence is
 
The only burden is one of reasonable doubt in a Grand Jury.
...And they only need a simple majority to agree that there is.
:doh:lamo:doh:lamo:doh
Stop speaking about things you do not know.
As you were already told, a GJ is looking for sufficient evidence to indict, you know, probable cause, not doubt.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

That is the opinion of CBS-KMOX not the forensic surgeons.
Although there were no wounds to the victim's back, per se, they explained how at least one of the wounds on Browns forearm could have been received while he was moving away from Wilson.
They made it clear that this wound coming from behind could not be ruled out.
Wrong.
They made it clear that all shots came from his front.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

My bad the claim of a swollen face was made by Police Chief Jackson.
And had you known what had been revealed you would not have made such an erroneous statement about it.


It has been reported that Wilson was at the hospital for less than an hour indicating that the injury to his face was not very serious at all.
Link?
 
Their guns don't hold 11 bullets, do they? Policemen don't have assault weapons like citizens do.
:shrug:
It depends on the firearm used.
:shrug:
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

You fire until the threat is down. Period.
So if you are in a fire fight and the opponent surrenders his weapon and waves a white flag and comes out with his hands up ...
You would still drop him?

Oh ...period? ....
Got it...
:doh
What you described is someone who is no longer a threat. So why would he put down something that was not a threat?
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

And this is by far the most Poignant post in the string. (#71)
Thanks.
NO One has a good answer for it.
No it isn't because it is based on assumption and a lack of knowledge of what is already known.
 
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