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ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209:785]

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Buck Ewer said:
Even good cops can make really bad decisions when they let their emotions get the better of them ...all it takes is just a few seconds.
I believe that's exactly what happened here.
But that is no excuse for murder. That kid will be dead forever.
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Im sure youd be so unhappy if the cop was killed by this thug...but I guess the cop would have to die to prove the point in your abusrd judgement
 
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j-mac said:
No, he can't...Nothing points to this particular police officer as being anything buy a well measured, controlled, and solid cop...One of the many good ones...Not even one complaint in 4 years in that force.
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People in one or two other threads have been talking about how out of control cops are, how they arent held accountable for 'illegal' searches, car stops with no real probable cause, roughing people up....and all deny that there is a single thing 'the people' can do about it.

They can make reports. (Then they complained that those were useless). Those reports are in files. They can be used in just such instances as this shooting to show a pattern.

So they can keep complaining or they can report bad behavior when it happens to them or when they see it.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
There were well over 100 "thugs" as you like to call black teens and the student was killed as the result of a car crash miles from the fight.

Un-armed means just that. Without a lethal weapon.
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One student was killed in the Car crash but she was not attacked by thugs.

The coroner ruled that the second Teen was beaten to death and that he did NOT die because of the car crash.

Try to keep up.

He was not shot, knifed, beaten with a bat, he was beaten to death by unarmed thugs.
 
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Fenton said:
You've routinely refered to the Cops as " Pigs .


So if there was a account from the officer would you even beleive it ?
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some should listen to this "Pig" Browns rap lyrics..
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Even good cops can make really bad decisions when they let their emotions get the better of them ...all it takes is just a few seconds.
I believe that's exactly what happened here.
But that is no excuse for murder. That kid will be dead forever.
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Good cops make bad decisions. Everyone can make a bad decision. YOU can make a bad decision. Does that mean you're capable of murder?

You keep using the cop's "emotions" for your argument. You can't. You weren't there and have no idea what his emotions were. And you need proof, not "well, his emotions may have gotten the better of him because good cops make bad decisions sometimes". That isn't even compelling, Buck.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Even good cops can make really bad decisions when they let their emotions get the better of them ...all it takes is just a few seconds.
I believe that's exactly what happened here.
But that is no excuse for murder. That kid will be dead forever.
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so if someone pucnhes you in the face over and over for no reason and tries to get your gun and then rushes you.. you think shooting them is "bad judgement"?...

wow...
 
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Fenton said:
You've routinely refered to the Cops as " Pigs .


So if there was a account from the officer would you even beleive it ?
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Google Chrome is your friend.

Why would anyone believe a very late police report? Why would anyone believe a police report initially with missing information about a homicide or a murder? Inexplicable, isn't it.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Even good cops can make really bad decisions when they let their emotions get the better of them ...all it takes is just a few seconds.
I believe that's exactly what happened here.
But that is no excuse for murder. That kid will be dead forever.
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can bad Thugs make bad decisons or is robbing stores "good decisions"? and writting vulger songs of beating women to a pulp is "good" also
 
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AJiveMan said:
Sometimes you just need to think of the situation and what might have, or probably happened.

If Brown resisted when the cop tugged his shirt, and if Brown saw the pistol coming his way, he did the most logical thing, probably socked the cop in the face and began to run away, then the cop, in a fit of anger drew down on Brown and executed him, because he got socked. I can picture it in my mind.

Of course, there's no record of what exactly happened because the police report was basically all blank, no account from Wilson at all.
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The police union lawyer told Wilson not to write anything almost immediately after the homicide, is what I read.
Wilson took his advice but it sure does make him look guilty.
Like Nixon's eighteen and a half minute gap.
 
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AJiveMan said:
Google Chrome is your friend.

Why would anyone believe a very late police report? Why would anyone believe a police report initially with missing information about a homicide or a murder? Inexplicable, isn't it.
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Not really.. why would anyone beleive Mike THUG Browns thugs friend is the question.. like CNN did hook line and sinker
 
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Buck Ewer said:
The police union lawyer told Wilson not to write anything almost immediately after the homicide, is what I read.
Wilson took his advice but it sure does make him look guilty.
Like Nixon's eighteen and a half minute gap.
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you mean Lois Lerners missing emails
 
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AJiveMan said:
Google Chrome is your friend.

Why would anyone believe a very late police report? Why would anyone believe a police report initially with missing information about a homicide or a murder? Inexplicable, isn't it.
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Lol !

You're only going to " believe " what fits you " Pigs are evil false narrative.
 
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Travis007 said:
Not really.. why would anyone beleive Mike THUG Browns thugs friend is the question.. like CNN did hook line and sinker
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Google Chrome is your friend too.

So, there is an explanation for not filing a police report with all the information that is required by law? I'd like to hear it.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Brown was 35 feet from the cruiser when he dropped and supposedly he had been charging back when the gunfire started according to the cops.
For a 300 pound guy to run 40 or so feet it had to take at least 30 seconds...
Plenty of time for Wilson to holster his piece and draw his Taser ... the appropriate weapon to stop an un-armed man running down a busy street at noon.
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I didnt see where they released the distance..where was that? I havent seen it yet.

Now, please provide something factual to support this: For a 300 pound guy to run 40 or so feet it had to take at least 30 seconds.'

Because according to studies done and *admissable in court*, this is how fast an attacker can reach someone in 21 feet.

"Sergeant Dennis Tueller, of the Salt Lake City, Utah Police Department wondered how quickly an attacker with a knife could cover 21 feet (6.4 m), so he timed volunteers as they raced to stab the target. He determined that it could be done in 1.5 seconds."

Tueller Drill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

An adreneline-pumped 19 yr old? Even at 300 lbs he's going alot faster than 1 foot/second. Did you seriously even think about that before typing?
 
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Cryptic said:
I think that is also a possibility- thoogh Brown's actions may not be self defense in the true sense of the word. Consider these two scenarios:

Scenario I
-Brown, a pumped up alpha male is walking down the middle of the street after just "slapping down" an "adversary". He has a friend with him, and wants to continue impressing his friend with just how alpha is really is
-Brown strikes police officer (slaps down) after officer tries to grab him
-Officer points weapon at Brown -probably not truly needed, but justified (stop attacking me)
-Brown attempts to grab weapon, resulting in officer firing it

Or,
Scenario II
- Officer points weapon at Brown simply for refusing his lawful order. Brown thinks he is going to be killed and tries to grab the weapon.
- Possible, but there is nothing in the officer's back ground to suggest the would do this.

In contrast, there are elements in Brown's past to suggest he would try to slap down a "punk" (store clerk got assaulted)- espescially if he was trying to impress a friend. Thus, I would go for scenario I

Or.... the officer never fired the weapon from the police cruiser?
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Wow, you have completely bought the BS you've been fed from RW media about this. Damn, that's downright sad.
 
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Fenton said:
Lol !

You're only going to " believe " what fits you " Pigs are evil false narrative.
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Why would I, or anyone believe a police report that has missing information? Especially concerning a homicide or a murder.

Evidently, some people here are fine and okay with gunning down an unarmed person.
 
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Lursa said:
I didnt see where they released the distance..where was that? I havent seen it yet.

Now, please provide something factual to support this: For a 300 pound guy to run 40 or so feet it had to take at least 30 seconds.'

Because according to studies done and *admissable in court*, this is how fast an attacker can reach someone in 21 feet.

"Sergeant Dennis Tueller, of the Salt Lake City, Utah Police Department wondered how quickly an attacker with a knife could cover 21 feet (6.4 m), so he timed volunteers as they raced to stab the target. He determined that it could be done in 1.5 seconds."

Tueller Drill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

An adreneline-pumped 19 yr old? Even at 300 lbs he's going alot faster than 1 foot/second. Did you seriously even think about that before typing?
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10 yards is very close... Im 50+ and I can do it in seconds
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Six shots against an un-armed man?
Sound like rage to me.
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Someone that believes one shot stops an attacker?

Someone that believes a shot to the arm...or 2 or 3....stops an attacker?

Sounds like someon who watches way too much TV to me.
 
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Travis007 said:
can bad Thugs make bad decisons or is robbing stores "good decisions"? and writting vulger songs of beating womens to a pulp is "good" also
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I think it is fairly obvious that this kid was not thinking his actions through very clearly that day.
He was 18 years old and his friend is 22 ...I'm sure he was trying to impress his older friend with how tough he could be. That kind of thing seems to be pretty important to teenage black kids.
Keep in mind that he graduated high school, had a clean police record and was due to start vocational school in a few weeks. he had a dream of starting his own business one day.
I'm not saying that he was an angel. He made some really stupid bad decisions that day...
But he did not deserve to be murdered and I believe he was.
 
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opendebate said:
Wow, you have completely bought the BS you've been fed from RW media about this. Damn, that's downright sad.
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or they are doing some research on ths subject..

great debate style there..
 
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Re: ACLU: Ferguson police report on Michael brown's death violates law [W: 209]

Travis007 said:
Out of control cop? you mean officer wilsong who has a perfect record of conduct.... does Mike Brown have a perfect record?
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No, Brown does not. But.... you are forgetting to factor in the power of pride.

Once the macho contest kicked off (who dis-respected who and who dominates who), both Brown and Wilson were operating not on logic, but on emotion. Things rapidly escalated. I dont think neither Brown nor Wilson ever thought it would go that far, that fast.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
I think it is fairly obvious that this kid was not thinking his actions through very clearly that day.
He was 18 years old and his friend is 22 ...I'm sure he was trying to impress his older friend with how tough he could be. That kind of thing seems to be pretty important to teenage black kids.
Keep in mind that he graduated high school, had a clean police record and was due to start vocational school in a few weeks. he had a dream of starting his own business one day.
I'm not saying that he was an angel. He made some really stupid bad decisions that day...
But he did not deserve to be murdered and I believe he was.
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I dont care.. Mike Brown is a loser.. a thug.. lesson here is "attack a cop and you will get shot"..sounds to me like this hunk of grabage robbed a store and karma got him..
 
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Cryptic said:
No, Brown does not. But.... you are forgetting to factor in the power of pride.

Once the macho contest kicked off (who dis-respected who and who dominates who), both Brown and Wilson were operating not on logic, but on emotion. Things rapidly escalated. I dont think neither Brown nor Wilson ever thought it would go that far, that fast.
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so far wilson has shown proper conduct.. Brown was amped up after the robbery....and he got shot for acting like a criminal..and he was and is a criminal..
 
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